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THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE TRU PICTURES....

some people think that the ottomans rule is something islamic and they are willing to be part of the ottoman empire over their own country

The Ottoman Empire was a Muslim Empire - I'm proud of their achievements & sad for their demise just as I have similar feelings for numerous other Muslim Empires that have dotted the Earth from Egypt to Andalusia and from South Asia to Central Asia.

But I'm a Pakistani first, second & last !
 
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The Ottoman Empire was a Muslim Empire - I'm proud of their achievements & sad for their demise just as I have similar feelings for numerous other Muslim Empires that have dotted the Earth from Egypt to Andalusia and from South Asia to Central Asia.

But I'm a Pakistani first, second & last !
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That's like calling the Achemenid Persian Empire a "zoroastrian empire." Zoroastrianism was state religion. Islam was the state religion of the Ottoman Empire. At the end of the day, Turkey was the Ottoman Empire just like Iran was the epicenter of the Achemenid Persian Empire or all the other ones that came after.

You can be proud of their achievements, that's fine, but it's Turkey that holds claim to those achievements, not your mumbo jumbo caliphate bs.
 
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That's like calling the Achemenid Persian Empire a "zoroastrian empire." Zoroastrianism was state religion. Islam was the state religion of the Ottoman Empire. At the end of the day, Turkey was the Ottoman Empire just like Iran was the epicenter of the Achemenid Persian Empire or all the other ones that came after.

You can be proud of their achievements, that's fine, but it's Turkey that holds claim to those achievements, not your mumbo jumbo caliphate bs.

There was no Turkiye back then just as there was no Persia back then; only Turkic & Persian Civilizations. And no one is denying the Turkic heritage of the Ottoman Empire nor the Persian heritage of post-Islamic Persian Empires. Its just that those Empires was more into Pan-Islamism than Ethno-Linguistic Nationalism per se it is ludicrous to look at them through the lens of a Nation State.

So far as who holds claims to those achievements - the Ottomans & those Persian Empires do; neither their ancestors nor their progeny because achievement doesn't run in blood !
 
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wonder why you Turks shake hand with German and lost such a glitter ....by remain a center of Muslim world...but..........what you Turk think reason behind such a back lashed decision of adopting of course against cunning Brits...
@Armstrong what you think...
 
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wonder why you Turks shake hand with German and lost such a glitter ....by remain a center of Muslim world...but..........what you Turk think reason behind such a back lashed decision of adopting of course against cunning Brits...
@Armstrong what you think...
Germans was the only ones who took actively part in conflict on our side in WWI, i dont wanna start a flamewar but muslim world was fighting against us back then, maybe you should read a little bit history and see how Turks was fighting for survival, it wasnt Turks who abandoned the muslim world but the opposite.
 
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Germans was the only ones who took actively part in conflict on our side in WWI, i dont wanna start a flamewar but muslim world was fighting against us back then, maybe you should read a little bit history and see how Turks was fighting for survival, it wasnt Turks who abandoned the muslim world but the opposite.
Agreed arabs took full opportunity to get even with Turks. Arabs shake hand with Brits.
 
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Superb thread @Ceylal ! Love it :)

Germans was the only ones who took actively part in conflict on our side in WWI, i dont wanna start a flamewar but muslim world was fighting against us back then, maybe you should read a little bit history and see how Turks was fighting for survival, it wasnt Turks who abandoned the muslim world but the opposite.

Absolutely agreed. It was all Muslim arabs who rose up against Ottomans and left them to the conspiracies of the imperialists. The great Turkish nation rose from this disaster.

Look at arabs now. Still they have no peace, they are their biggest enemies. If its not Israel, its sectarianism they have fanned that's destroying them from within.

Compare this to Turks.
 
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Ottoman Algiers..
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A ROYAL BRASS ASTROLABE MADE BY AL-AHMAR AL-NUJUMI AL-RUMI FOR THE TREASURY OF THE OTTOMAN SULTAN BAYEZID II, 1505
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AN OTTOMAN CURVED SWORD (KILIJ) WITH GILT-COPPER (TOMBAK) SHEATH AND HILT, 18TH CENTURY
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A STATION ON THE HIJAZ RAILWAY, POSSIBLY AT ULA
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AN OTTOMAN METAL-THREAD EMBROIDERED SILK COMMEMORATIVE BANNER, 1908
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OTTOMAN IRAQ
"Landscape on the Tigris in Mesopotamia"
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THE OTTOMAN ARMY
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SULTAN SELIM III
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OTTOMAN MANISA, WOODEN HOUSES IN KULA
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THE OTTOMAN ORDER OF THE CHARITY (SHEFKAT NISHANI), 1878
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OTTOMAN ASTRONOMICAL TABLES 18TH-19TH CENTURY
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AN OTTOMAN GOLD CALLIGRAPHIC AMULET PENDANT, 18TH CENTURY
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OTTOMAN DOCUMENTS RELATING TO MECCA AND THE HAJJ, INCLUDING A FIRST EDITION OF GENERAL IBRAHIM RIF'AT PASHA'S MIR'AT AL-HARAMAYN

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Hell No; I wouldn't give up my Nationality & my Country for anything !
Though I fail to see how is your question relevant to my post ?

Now, now Armstrong :what:

Will you take back that statement or should I tell all the PDF members here how you've been begging me to speak to His Excellency, the most Exalted and the Bringer of Freedom to all Oppressed and Suppressed, President for Life, Robert Mugabe on your behalf for a Zimbabwean passport and citizenship so you may live you life in pleasure in rural Zimbabwe, herding your goats and playing with the iziTombis (maidens) ??? :what:
 
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Now, now Armstrong :what:

Will you take back that statement or should I tell all the PDF members here how you've been begging me to speak to His Excellency, the most Exalted and the Bringer of Freedom to all Oppressed and Suppressed, President for Life, Robert Mugabe on your behalf for a Zimbabwean passport and citizenship so you may live you life in pleasure in rural Zimbabwe, herding your goats and playing with the iziTombis (maidens) ??? :what:

You promised you won't tell anyone ! :mad:
 
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Great work. Truly, Ottoman empire was on of the greatest empire we have ever seen.
 
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