The Only Way to World Peace is an Islamic Union

[Neptune]

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Keep that to 'yourself'

If you could have read the ()'ed part, you wouldn't have said that yara..as i said there nor we or them want Turkey in . period

 

[T-123456]

A big NO for a so called Islamic Union.

According to the Constitution of Turkey, Turkey is a democratic secular Republic. Joining a union with pure religious ideologies is itself would be breaking the constitution.

3,6% of the population of the Republic of Turkey consists by non-muslims. Let alone one percent, for the sake of every single compatriot..No.

The government's current only union matter is the European Union. .(Nor we or them want it)

But the only National Policy about a union is bringing Turkic nations in to a one single body, union, a federative Turkish state. That was, is and always will be our national priority. As for reality, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and Azerbaijan are on consideration. Hence our brethrens have already their capitulations in all aspects including defense, military aid and economic aid, modernisation.

Not some religious bullshit. Keep it to yourselves.

Look at the other option,ECO.

 

[VelocuR]

As long as Arabs will complete their fighting with each other within ten to fifteen years, it is perfect opportunity to capture Arab lands or big oil fields for Pakistan Empire 2.0!

 

[T-123456]

Depends if people learn that the people before them (as suggested in the quran) were fooled by their priests who sold their religion for followers and fame....

You know ''the people'' will not learn,so again the answer would be;never.
Just look at the forum,did you see any change in opinions regarding religion since you are a member here?

 

[Dubious]

You know ''the people'' will not learn,so again the answer would be never.
Just look at the forum,did you see any change in opinions regarding religion since you are a member here?

1 thing I do see...no matter on what front Muslims are fighting and debating you raise your BS on Islam many will unite and bash you as one As long as no stupid school of thought or madhaab is brought in !

 

[T-123456]

1 thing I do see...no matter on what front Muslims are fighting and debating you raise your BS on Islam many will unite and bash you as one As long as no stupid school of thought or madhaab is brought in !

As long as Muslims are easy prey for the game ''devide and rule'',nothing will change.

 

[asena_great]

it's unrealistic

 

[The SC]

The only thing that eill happen in a Islamic union is there will different groups of mullahs giving fatwa to everything of day to day life....from dress code to music entertainment, education especially science and other present inventions. Then each one will want to prove he is more muslim than the other and essentially take the the whole Union to the 13-14 th centuary....go ahead form a union if you can , there is only gonna be blood shed

Education especially science.Like Iran for instance?

 

[kalu_miah]

@Neptune @T-123456 do you guys have objection to any one of the two D-8 and ECO initiatives?

 

[Kaniska]

Good idea,,,

Your enemy will always hate your forces becoming unfied and strong

Hence the immediate butt hurt from hindu's and others.


The reality is the Muslim world is a MASSIVE and diverse place with a myriad of views as a result unifying everyone could be difficult, but we need a forum where regarless of differences we can build consensus, lessen friction and support each other


The OIC is such a forum but it is useless, or to be more accurate its as usefull as its sum parts have made it to be



The Muslim world could become a goliath and enourmous powerhouse but for the moment it is baby steps where individual nations needs to find their own place in their world

Dude...do not blame others for your inefficiency...Hindu people are not asking you to fight Muslim people among each other...

 

[kalu_miah]

Dude...do not blame others for your inefficiency...Hindu people are not asking you to fight Muslim people among each other...

How can you say that after breaking Pakistan using our in house traitors to instigate a civil war in 1971?

 

[T-123456]

@Neptune @T-123456 do you guys have objection to any one of the two D-8 and ECO initiatives?

Nothing against ECO,D-8 not possible(Egypt(Sisi) and Turkiye(Erdogan)wouldnt want to work with each other).

 

[Neptune]

@Neptune @T-123456 do you guys have objection to any one of the two D-8 and ECO initiatives?

Uncle @T-123456 summed it up well. Until we get a true leader, we will not see a Turkic Union at all. To be more specific, highly unlikely for the following decade.

ECO semms well as @Aeronaut explained.


For D-8, a objection from my side either. There'll be a zero level co-op in present conditions. Thus, I dont see much national gains at all in there.

 

[chhota bheem]

When it's not being rubbed in others' faces and people aren't forced to practise it, it doesn't matter much. Most religions preach the same message.

It dsnt have to be rubbed on any ones face,it just dsnt have to be public space.
Religion has its place and its once private life.

Where did you learn that Islam has a place for racism?

I did not learn that from Islam for that matter in any other religious text.

This thread is about world peace.

 

[Kaniska]

How can you say that after breaking Pakistan using our in house traitors to instigate a civil war in 1971?

Let us be very clear with our objective..Our issue is with Pakistan not with Islam....We are dealing with many Islamic nations and we do not have problems....So if also Pakistan would have any other religion expcept Muslim nations, India would have supported Pakistan rebel in BD to break up Pakistan as it serves our national and security interest at that point of time..

So if you would like to assume something else it is a different issue, again, focous on Musims people respecting your same Muslim people ....You can take example of India and BD but what about entire middle east?....Why the Gulf Arab nations are developing where as rest of the Islamic world is struggling among each other? It is because those Muslim world who has focoussed on eductaion, technology and increasing the quality of life of its citizen are developing...And those nation who pursure Jihadi ideology there are struggling ....Take example of SA,UAE,Indonesia and even BD and compare it with Afganistan,Pakistan,Iraq and other warring Muslim nation....Those Muslims nations are successful because they did not think religion is the ultimate thing to bring peace but who ever thought it otherwise, their situation is self evident....