The latest Russian deterrent weapons that will change the balance of power

[The SC]

Putin: "I think it is my duty to emphasize that any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies, whether a small or medium force or other, we will consider it a nuclear attack on our country, and the response will be immediate with all the consequences of this"..

Putin: "Over the last 30 years we have made changes, other countries need centuries to achieve the same"..

The Sarmat missile system is equipped with heavy intercontinental ballistic missile

Russia's new nuclear propulsion winged cruise missile is unparalleled in the world

New Russian unmanned guided submarines capable of diving deep to continental distances

The system of "Kengal" (dagger) missile ultrasonic high precision

Russian "Avangard" missile inertial and free flight

The Russian army is armed with the latest types of laser weapons

Putin himself came out to announce this..
The Russian defense minister says that these weapons have avoided the arms race for decades..
The trust in Russian capabilities seems very high for Putin and his government..
The possibilities of these weapons are out of current time and for a long period of time; Unmanned submarines with unmatched speed and range are something fabulous..

This means that many inventions have been realised to break the natural physics, the properties of materials and technologies of the future..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Russia can no longer be taken lightly!!! May be she's preparing to venture into challenging the Dollar domination, which is by the by is the ultimate weapon of choice and whose effects are felt by all the folks 24/7 knowingly or unknowingly!!!! She might also find some die-hard allies in that venture...

 

[Taygibay]

Why do I think that if Indians had said half
as much as announced above, everyone'd
be laughing something off?

Holy Poutine, folks are as gullible when their
affection leads them as stubborn if opposed.

Hypersonic apart, woof, Tay.

 

[500]

All that nothung but bluff:

1) Rebranded old Soviet Satana missile which was not even tested yet.
2) Nuclear propulsion cruise missile - idiotic project from 1950-es.
3) Mini submarine - Japanese made such in WW2, did not help them much.
4) Soviet Iscander tactic ballistic missile attached to Soviet MiG-31.
5-6) Silly cartoons.

 

[SubWater]

Putin showed that all of rumors about KGB spies was right.
Playing chess in below zero temperature.
Russia used west stupidity to renew her military.
Afghanistan and Iraq war and hostility with Iran and North Korea damaged militarly and got a lot of time and attention from West while Russians in shadow pushed back and damaged American puppets in Kafkaz and Eastern Europe.
yet is not too late but Americans are more confounded than 2000's.
Yemen and Syria wars are latest chains of their mistake.

 

[ARMalik]

All that nothung but bluff:

1) Rebranded old Soviet Satana missile which was not even tested yet.
2) Nuclear propulsion cruise missile - idiotic project from 1950-es.
3) Mini submarine - Japanese made such in WW2, did not help them much.
4) Soviet Iscander tactic ballistic missile attached to Soviet MiG-31.
5-6) Silly cartoons.

Why do you people have such big mouths? Reality check - your F-16s were shot out of sky like flies by the Russians.

 

[Metanoia]

F-16s were shot out of sky like flies by the Russians.

Explicit Russian diplomatic support, yes. However, the equipment and the the people who planned and pulled the trigger were Syrians and Iranians.

Israel's self aware that it's an artificial entity which can only pick on unarmed Palestinians. No way they can risk antagonizing Russians directly which in turn might cause the Russians to take direct action. Russians are in direct competition with the USA in the Syrian theatre.

 

[ptldM3]

All that nothung but bluff:

1) Rebranded old Soviet Satana missile which was not even tested yet.

The jealous is making you look even more irrational then usual. This is as petty as someone claiming the F-22 is just an upgraded Write Brothers plane or that the Merkava is just a Mark I. Nothing is known about any of these projects other then the fact that they exist. The Sarmat is obviously much larger in diameter to the Satan and the engine, guidance system and delivery system is a mystery.



These systems are about 50 years ahead of anything Israel can field. The most modern Israeli rocket engine technology is inferior to Soviet 1970s rocket engines...literally.

2) Nuclear propulsion cruise missile - idiotic project from 1950-es.

A cruise missile that has theoretically unlimited range that's probably power by a nuclear ramjet is idiotic? Having the ability to bypass all enemy radars and missile defenses by traveling longer routes and attacking from unexpected areas is idiotic? Having the range to be able to conduct unlimited evasive maneuvers is idiotic?

Range is one of the most important characteristics of a missile because it gives you advantages and more options. Limited range equals limited attack options both in range and course corrections/evasive maneuvering.


Nuclear propulsion technology was tested in the 1960s but was canceled. The engine never even made it off the ground and they were too big and too heavy. The US had project Pluto in the 1960s but the engine itself was larger then a locomotive and never was tested in the air. The US at the time did not have the technology to build a reliable nuclear powered cruise missile.

3) Mini submarine - Japanese made such in WW2, did not help them much.

Japan never made nuclear powered drone submarines with unlimited range. A maned ww2 diesel submarine has nothing in common with a nuclear powered drone with the latest weapons systems and monitoring equipment. Having worked on a seaborne drone system about 4 years ago all I can say is that I pitty your ignorance; you don't have the slightest clue about these types of drones or what they even do.


Israel still uses diesel powered submarines that Germany donates, Israel could only dream of this technology that is why Israel was caught spying on the Germans while they built diesel submarines recently.

 

[500]

Funny every time I dare to expose Russian propaganda nonsense u start switching topic.

The jealous is making you look even more irrational then usual. This is as petty as someone claiming the F-22 is just an upgraded Write Brothers plane or that the Merkava is just a Mark I.

Sarmat uses same UDMH engines as old Soviet Satana. No one uses these engines for ballistic missiles anymore. Thats ancient technology. Yet it is presented as some super duper technology.

These systems are about 50 years ahead of anything Israel can field. The most modern Israeli rocket engine technology is inferior to Soviet 1970s rocket engines...literally.

We use solid engines which are much better than UDMH.

A cruise missile that has theoretically unlimited range that's probably power by a nuclear ramjet is idiotic? Having the ability to bypass all enemy radars and missile defenses by traveling longer routes and attacking from unexpected areas is idiotic? Having the range to be able to conduct unlimited evasive maneuvers is idiotic?

Yes its pure idiocy. Regular cruise missiles have 4000 km range nowadays (distance from London to Moscow is 2500 km). Who needs more? Extremely complicated, expensive, bulky and dangerous in use rocket to achieve ranges which no one needs?

Imagine that ur super duper missiles which crashed Iran were not regular, but nuclear powered? They would pollute half of Iran.

Japan never made nuclear powered drone submarines with unlimited range. A maned ww2 diesel submarine has nothing in common with a nuclear powered drone with the latest weapons systems and monitoring equipment. Having worked on a seaborne drone system about 4 years ago all I can say is that I pitty your ignorance you don't have the slightest clue about these types of drones or what they even do.

Small nuclear engines are very noisy. Thats why all modern nuclear submarines are so huge. So whats the point in ur noisy mini subs? No point at all.

Israel still uses diesel powered submarines that Germany donates, Israel could only dream of this technology that is why Israel was caught spying on the Germans making conventional German submarines.

We have AIP sumbarines, something u can only dream about.

 

[ptldM3]

Funny every time I dare to expose Russian propaganda nonsense u start switching topic.

Yea you really "exposed" Russia by shooting diarrhea out of your mouth about classified projects that you know nothing about

Sarmat uses same UDMH engines as old Soviet Satana. No one uses these engines for ballistic missiles anymore. Thats ancient technology. Yet it is presented as some super duper technology.

Liquid engines are much more powerful and used by everyone in space rockets. Can you guess why? Using a more powerful, more complex engines is considered inferior only in your eyes.




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsymmetrical_dimethylhydrazine

UDMH has higher stability than hydrazine, especially at elevated temperatures, and can be used as its replacement or together in a mixture. UDMH is used in many European, Russian, Indian, and Chinese rocket designs.



The Sarmat uses a more powerful and complex liquid engine as opposed to a simple, cheap solid fuel engine. Our ancient technology is still 50 years ahead of anything Israel is able to make.

We use solid engines which are much better than UDMH.

No they are not better, you have to be stupid to believe that. Have you looked at the performance of Israeli rocket engines? They are on par with 1950s engines. Israel uses solid engines because it is incapable of building reliable liquid engines that is able to produce anything close to what Russian engines make. I mean even the Indians put Israeli rocket technology to shame.


Look at your modern super Israeli engines and compare them with Soviet engines from the 1950s and 1960s. You should be ashamed.

Yes its pure idiocy. Regular cruise missiles have 4000 km range nowadays (distance from London to Moscow is 2500 km). Who needs more? Extremely complicated, expensive, bulky and dangerous in use rocket to achieve ranges which no one needs?

What regular cruise missile have 4000km range? The Israeli Popeye has a range of 78km. The Israeli Delilah has 250km. The German/Swedish KEPD350 has a range of 500km and the Tomahawk's maximum range is 2,500km.


Like I said before longer ranges allows the missile to fly longer routes avoiding radars and missile defenses, longer range allows lower intercept probability by having enough range for course correction which makes it more difficult to shoot down.

Imagine that ur super duper missiles which crashed Iran were not regular, but nuclear powered? They would pollute half of Iran.

Do you have any idea how little plutonium it takes to generate power, we are talking less then a drop in some cases.

Small nuclear engines are very noisy. Thats why all modern nuclear submarines are so huge. So whats the point in ur noisy mini subs? No point at all.

Facepalm....do you have any idea how a nuclear engine works and how a combustion engine works? Nuclear submarines are far quieter than noisy diesels. The majority of sound from all submarines comes from the propellers creating cavitation (bubbles). Larger submarines are mostly nuclear because they are designed to carry nuclear ICBMs and stay hidden for months without the need for fuel, those nuclear submarines require more men, more food, more weapons and don't have room for fuel.

We have AIP sumbarines, something u can only dream about.

Kronstadt has AIP and what you have are free German submarines that are based on an old design that uses Diesel engines that you got for free.

 

[Aramagedon]

Guys don’t waste your time for a dumbass Netanyahu hasbara troll.

Imagine that ur super duper missiles which crashed Iran were not regular, but nuclear powered? They would pollute half of Iran.

One nuke missile is enough to send you to hell. Even a nuke from submarine.

Even chemical weapons are enough for Israelis.

 

[Gomig-21]

3) Mini submarine - Japanese made such in WW2, did not help them much.

lol. Hardly a comparison. This is an unmanned sub with the latest tech and by virtue of being unmanned, can reach many restricted locations to cause a lot of harm. That's the danger and lethality of this thing. No comparison to a WWII Japanese midget submarine lol.

Soviet Iscander tactic ballistic missile attached to Soviet MiG-31.

But to have the option to deliver it closer with a mach-3 platform increases the munition's lethality.

5-6) Silly cartoons.

CGI and how else can they show something like these things, a real ballistic deployment into space?

Having the ability to bypass all enemy radars and missile defenses by traveling longer routes and attacking from unexpected areas

That's probably the most impressive thing I took out of all this. Basically bypass practically the entire EW concept and headache and with a longer range, simply go around whatever defenses are in the way. Brilliant.

 

[500]

Yea you really "exposed" Russia by shooting diarrhea out of your mouth about classified projects that you know nothing about

Very typical. Personal insults and topic change.

Liquid engines are much more powerful and used by everyone in space rockets. Can you guess why? Using a more powerful, more complex engines is considered inferior only in your eyes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsymmetrical_dimethylhydrazine

UDMH has higher stability than hydrazine, especially at elevated temperatures, and can be used as its replacement or together in a mixture. UDMH is used in many European, Russian, Indian, and Chinese rocket designs.

The Sarmat uses a more powerful and complex liquid engine as opposed to a simple, cheap solid fuel engine. Our ancient technology is still 50 years ahead of anything Israel is able to make.

No they are not better, you have to be stupid to believe that. Have you looked at the performance of Israeli rocket engines? They are on par with 1950s engines. Israel uses solid engines because it is incapable of building reliable liquid engines that is able to produce anything close to what Russian engines make. I mean even the Indians put Israeli rocket technology to shame.

Ballistic missile of 1960-es had mostly UDMH egnines. But they are very toxic and complicated to maintain. Thats why today virtually all ballistic missiles are solid. USA moved from UDMH Titan to solid MX. Russia itself moved from UDMH Sineva to solid Borei. Yet now they are trying to sell rebranded UDMH missile (same RD-264 engine) as something super duper.

What regular cruise missile have 4000km range?

https://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/acm.htm

Do you have any idea how little plutonium it takes to generate power, we are talking less then a drop in some cases.

LOL its not an atomic powered clock, its RAMJET. U need quite a lot of nuclear fuel.

Facepalm....do you have any idea how a nuclear engine works and how a combustion engine works? Nuclear submarines are far quieter than noisy diesels. The majority of sound from all submarines comes from the propellers creating cavitation (bubbles). Larger submarines are mostly nuclear because they are designed to carry nuclear ICBMs and stay hidden for months without the need for fuel, those nuclear submarines require more men, more food, more weapons and don't have room for fuel.

That's u who knows nothing. Pumps, turbines, reducers - all produce hell lots of noise. That's why first nuclear submarines were very noisy. And to decrease noise they need multilayered demphers and isolators which increases weight a lot. Thats why all modern nuclear submarines are so huge.

Kronstadt has AIP and what you have are free German submarines that are based on an old design that uses Diesel engines that you got for free.

1) Kronstadt was not even finished and its not AIP.
2) No, we dont get submarines for free. We payed over 430 mln $ for our AIP subs.

But to have the option to deliver it closer with a mach-3 platform increases the munition's lethality.

Classic missiles like JASSM-ER are much much cheaper, smaller, lighter. Thanks to stealth and low altitude extremely hard to intercept. Thanks to small size and relatively small cost u can launch them in huge numbers (B1 can carry 24 of them).

CGI and how else can they show something like these things, a real ballistic deployment into space?

Here example of real space deployment footage:

 

[JKangoroo]

Putin: "I think it is my duty to emphasize that any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies, whether a small or medium force or other, we will consider it a nuclear attack on our country, and the response will be immediate with all the consequences of this"..

Putin: "Over the last 30 years we have made changes, other countries need centuries to achieve the same"..

The Sarmat missile system is equipped with heavy intercontinental ballistic missile

Russia's new nuclear propulsion winged cruise missile is unparalleled in the world

New Russian unmanned guided submarines capable of diving deep to continental distances

The system of "Kengal" (dagger) missile ultrasonic high precision

Russian "Avangard" missile inertial and free flight

The Russian army is armed with the latest types of laser weapons

Putin himself came out to announce this..
The Russian defense minister says that these weapons have avoided the arms race for decades..
The trust in Russian capabilities seems very high for Putin and his government..
The possibilities of these weapons are out of current time and for a long period of time; Unmanned submarines with unmatched speed and range are something fabulous..

This means that many inventions have been realised to break the natural physics, the properties of materials and technologies of the future..

Are you egyptian?

 

[ptldM3]

Very typical. Personal insults and topic change.

I didn't ever change the topic and you shooting diarrhea out of your mouth is a factual statement.
You know what else is factual? Me providing sources for every claim i make. You know what isn't? You providing nothing.

Ballistic missile of 1960-es had mostly UDMH egnines. But they are very toxic and complicated to maintain. Thats why today virtually all ballistic missiles are solid. USA moved from UDMH Titan to solid MX. Russia itself moved from UDMH Sineva to solid Borei. Yet now they are trying to sell rebranded UDMH missile (same RD-264 engine) as something super duper.

Liquid engines are superior to solid. They are more efficient, more powerful and can be regulated where as solid fuel can't, once solid fuel is ignited it can't be shut off or regulated. A solid fuel engine is identical to a toy firework.


Yes they are more expensive and complicated but so is a Ferrari compared to a Ford. The Saramat is the Ferrari of rockets while everything else is a budget car.


Solid fuel in large rockets is literally the same as this:

https://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/acm.htm

https://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/acm.htm



That cruise missile doesn't have a range of 4000km. As I said most cruise missiles have a range of just a few hundred km. With such a long range cruise missile expensive delivery platforms such as submarines and aircraft are not needed, and they are more survivable due to course correction and the ability the fly around air defenses.

LOL its not an atomic powered clock, its RAMJET. U need quite a lot of nuclear fuel.

You are clululess. In one year the average US submarine used about 15lbs of nuclear fuel.


http://www.nato.int/acad/fellow/99-01/maerli.pdf



A cruise missile will need just a few drops nuclear fuel to stay airborne for several days. The nuclear fuel will only need to generate heat for the ramjet.

That's u who knows nothing. Pumps, turbines, reducers - all produce hell lots of noise.

Wow, now diesel submarines don't have pumps and turbines?

That's why first nuclear submarines were very noisy. And to decrease noise they need multilayered demphers and isolators which increases weight a lot. Thats why all modern nuclear submarines are so huge.

Modern nuclear submarines are large because they carry ICBMs, diesel submarines usually just carry torpedos and yes nuclear submarines can be quieter then diesel:




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine

"Some nuclear submarines such as the American Ohio class can operate with their reactor coolant pumps secured, making them quieter than electric subs."

1) Kronstadt was not even finished and its not AIP.

https://sputniknews.com/tags/product_Kronstadt_submarine/


The Russian-designed air-independent power plant (AIP) differs from its foreign analogues in that it obtains hydrogen within itself by reforming the onboard diesel fuel.

2) No, we dont get submarines for free. We payed over 430 mln $ for our AIP subs.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/germany-sells-delivers-two-more-dolphin-subs-to-israel/15515/amp


Germany had already donated two Dolphin submarines to the Israeli navy after the Gulf War in the early 1990s. The first-of-class INS (Israeli Naval Ship) Dolphin was commissioned in 1999, while INS Leviathan was commissioned in 2000.

Here example of real space deployment footage:

That video shows CGI animation, talking so much trash about other me using CGI and then posts a video with......CGI. Most defense firms only show vague CGI footage due to the classified nature of their products.