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October 20, 2009: The U.S. Air Force has retired the last of its 384 F-15A fighters. Long flown only by reserve units, these are old aircraft, all built in the 1970s. Air force reserve units got the F-15As in the 1980s and 1990s, as active duty units got the new F-15C. But now the F-22 is entering service, and more F-15Cs are going to the reserves. Many of those F-15A flew for over 30 years.

Unfortunately, the later model F-15s are not aging well. Two years ago, the air force grounded all of its 442 remaining F-15As and Cs (and the smaller number of two seat B and D trainer models) for 18 days, then grounded them again, all because of suspicions that portions of the aircraft structure have been weakened by stress (lots of maneuvering during combat training).

Earlier, the U.S. Air Force has halted non-critical flights of its F-15C (the interceptor version) fighters after a National Guard F-15C crashed. It appeared that the crash was the result of structural failure. Seven years ago, an F-15C traveling at high (over 2,000 kilometers an hour) speed crashed when its left tail fin broke off.

F-15Es (the two seat bomber version) operating in Afghanistan were not grounded initially, but soon were when it was realized that the problem might be a design flaw, not age, that caused the 27 year old F-15C to go down. The F-15Es were restored to flight status after about a week, once each aircraft had undergone an extensive structural examination (taking about 13 man hours each). Most F-15Es are less than ten years old. But some F-15Cs are over twenty years old. The F-15E is still in production for export customers like Singapore and South Korea. This time around, the F-15Es were not grounded, because metal stress in the older F-15s would not occur in the F-15E, which is somewhat different in its internal structure.

Structural failure is more common in older fighters that have lots of flight hours (over five thousand) on them. When originally designed, the F-15 was believed to have a service life of only 4,000 hours. But new materials and design techniques increased that to 8,000. In peacetime, F-15s are in the air 250-300 hours a year. But because of the 1991 Gulf War, the 1990s "no-fly-zone" patrols over Iraq, and the current war, the F-15 fleet has piled up the hours more quickly, and many are approaching the 8,000 hour mark.

If weak components are detected, they can be replaced with stronger ones, made of materials not available when the F-15 was originally built. But you want to find the weak components before they fail. While scanning technology has improved, it's still not good enough to detect all the F-15 components possibly weakened by years of use. As a result, flying an F-15 is going to be a bit more stressful from now on. To some in the air force, this situation has a bright side. One can now make a more compelling case to build more F-22s, to replace F-15 that are wearing out faster than expected.

This component failure problem is not unique to the F-15, and has been occurring with increasing frequency among aging fighter aircraft all over the world. The end of the Cold War in 1991 led to the cancellation of many warplane replacement programs. Air forces were compelled to make do with thousands of increasingly older aircraft. Whenever an aircraft goes down because of a structural failure, you have to ground all planes of that type until you know exactly what caused the loss, and made any needed repairs to other aircraft of that type. Pilots are a pretty sharp lot, so governments don't dare try to play games with this. If the pilots suspect they are being set up to fly dodgy aircraft, they will not fly them, or not fly them in a useful (stressful) way.
 
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job well done Eagles:tup: have rest now
 
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Pile of cheap engineering :coffee: no offence but if these were chinese birds then ppl would point to low workmenship and eingineering but since these are US birds , of course its hardworking crafts ...

I m bit suprised that 70's planes would be out of date so quickly when other airforce like Indian airforce has 60's planes flying around

I am suspecting the manufacturing company did not maintain these crafts just so they can sell new ones to gov other wise sad to see such a nice crafts go can we get 50-60 of these F15 ??
 
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Pile of cheap engineering :coffee: no offence but if these were chinese birds then ppl would point to low workmenship and eingineering but since these are US birds , of course its hardworking crafts ...

I m bit suprised that 70's planes would be out of date so quickly when other airforce like Indian airforce has 60's planes flying around

I am suspecting the manufacturing company did not maintain these crafts just so they can sell new ones to gov other wise sad to see such a nice crafts go can we get 50-60 of these F15 ??
No offense but this is a clearly idiotic statement. The USAF and NASA is still flying the F-5/T-38 series and look how old they are. Same for the SR-71. When a MODEL is retired, it is because a superior model is outperforming the current one, it is often relegated to non-combat duties IF the model is deemed to be useful in other areas. We are still flying F-4s as remote drones for weapons development purposes. Who knows some day in the future these retired F-15s will be serving the US in some other ways. I know you are desperate to put in some gratuitous jabs to US...But try to have some bit of common sense.

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oo the benefits of having MONEY!!! countries like Pakistan,Iran and alot of third world countries even India fly old fighters from the 70s....we have our Mirages, the indians have their MiGs......Iranians have there TOM CATS.....while USAF sends fighters like F-15As to bone yard....which i personally feel still has alot of juice for 3rd world airforces!!!
 
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Pile of cheap engineering :coffee: no offence but if these were chinese birds then ppl would point to low workmenship and eingineering but since these are US birds , of course its hardworking crafts ...

I m bit suprised that 70's planes would be out of date so quickly when other airforce like Indian airforce has 60's planes flying around

I am suspecting the manufacturing company did not maintain these crafts just so they can sell new ones to gov other wise sad to see such a nice crafts go can we get 50-60 of these F15 ??

maintainance cost become increasingly high to a point that it is cheaper to retire them than giving a life-extension upgrade

this is also one of the reason why US national air guard decided to retire their F-16A/B instead of going for MLU.(pilot life/safety is more valuable than any aircraft)
 
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No offense but this is a clearly idiotic statement. The USAF and NASA is still flying the F-5/T-38 series and look how old they are. Same for the SR-71. When a MODEL is retired, it is because a superior model is outperforming the current one, it is often relegated to non-combat duties IF the model is deemed to be useful in other areas. We are still flying F-4s as remote drones for weapons development purposes. Who knows some day in the future these retired F-15s will be serving the US in some other ways. I know you are desperate to put in some gratuitous jabs to US...But try to have some bit of common sense.

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Perhasps I should have said pile of bad engineer crew who did not maintain the beautiful craft

What are you talking about I love the F15's and think they are wonderful I am suprised they became "structurally unfit" why ..

Why can't you maintain these birds ??? Is it that the , company that made em wants tos ee the new ones to gov so it came up with this so call defect ??

:what: :blink: F15 can work for next 20 years - with slight modifications give it to us 200 of them

We will shoot a harpoon out of the F15
 
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The US will never give them to us !!
 
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Perhasps I should have said pile of bad engineer crew who did not maintain the beautiful craft

What are you talking about I love the F15's and think they are wonderful I am suprised they became "structurally unfit" why ..

Why can't you maintain these birds ??? Is it that the , company that made em wants tos ee the new ones to gov so it came up with this so call defect ??

:what: :blink: F15 can work for next 20 years - with slight modifications give it to us 200 of them

We will shoot a harpoon out of the F15

look dear.....its simple.....A plane can fly for forever if it is maintained properly......but just consider,USAF has the edge over the whole of the world and they have to maintain it because Airpower is now the most crucial component of world war stage......yeah, if they have JSF coming in large numbers due to greater production and also offering greater ability as compared to Eagle, they should switch towards them. Remember, there are a lot of good and potent competitors of Eagle now i.e Typhoon, Rafale and also grippen not to mention latest SUs coming in so a paradigm shift is necessary to maintain advantage
 
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Its like 400 F15 , where are our diplomats we need these ....:what:
Janab, These are the earliest versions of Eagles that should be outdated now......We can negotiate RSAF eagles if they switch to better Silent Eagles
 
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Sometimes I realy feel ashamed and get amused of our fellow members comments (dont take that personally). On one hand we are blaming US for all the miseries we are going through today and on the other hand we beg them to give us more.

First of all we need to decide wether we want to keep on begging and live like beggers or take a stand against anything which is against our national integerity.

Do you guys think that US will give us these old rubbish F 15...no..ofcourse not...why because we are nothing but beggers for them.

That shows our value. People must get rid of these pawns ...the sooner the better.
 
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