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The Kohinoor diamond was obtained by the British Empire. Some argue it should be returned to India.

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After the death of Queen Elizabeth II last week, online users are calling for the British government to surrender artifacts obtained by the British Empire, including the Kohinoor diamond — one of the most famous diamonds in the world.

Conversations about the diamond — also spelled Koh-i-noor — which is part of the British crown jewels, have been trending on social media amid coverage of the queen’s death, with users posting their opinions about the empire — and memes about stealing the diamond back.

The online jokes aside, many point to the serious colonial history behind Britain’s possession of the diamond.

The Kohinoor, which means “Mountain of Light,” was originally about 186 carats, and while its exact origins are unknown, it was most likely discovered in South India in the 13th century.

Danielle Kinsey, an assistant professor of history with a focus on the history of 19th century Britain and empire at Carleton University in Ottawa, Ontario, said its impressive size often shrouds its less appealing history.

"More importantly, it has a history of being part of war booty or trophies taken as the result of war in South Asia. So in a lot of ways, it is a symbol of plunder and represents the long history of plunder imperialism,” she said.

Kinsey said one of the ways the British government and scholars rationalized British imperialism in India and other places around the world was to say that their brand of imperialism wasn’t about plunder but about uplifting and civilizing colonized populations.

“The actual histories of British imperialism tell a much different story, one of horrific violence, dispossession, prejudice and significant economic exploitation,” she said. “I think people are outraged by how the Kohinoor continues to function as a trophy of empire as long as it remains in the crown’s possession.”

The diamond found its way through the hands of several dynasties, beginning with the Mughals in the 16th century, then the Persians and then the Afghans, before the Sikh Maharaja Ranjit Singh obtained it in 1813.

Maharaja Duleep Singh, the son and successor of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, held on to the diamond until the British annexed Punjab in 1849. Duleep, only 11 years old, signed the Treaty of Lahore, which also stipulated that Duleep would give the diamond to the queen of England.

Lord Dalhousie, a Scottish statesman and governor-general of India, coerced Singh into “gifting” the diamond to Queen Victoria, Dalhousie wrote in a letter in August 1849 to his friend Sir George Couper.

“He had visions of it becoming the centerpiece of the British imperial crown and had visions of himself becoming famous for facilitating the crown’s appropriation of the stone,” she said.

The diamond was sent to England, and after an inspection, it was unveiled to the public at the Great Exhibition of 1851, where many were unimpressed with it, she said.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...ohinoor-diamond-s-know-turbulent-hi-rcna47284
 
While I understand and sympathize with those who want its return after all the wrongs committed on the local population. This was earned through blood and sweat; if you want it that bad, then raise an army, and take it back and not cry about it. Weeping never solved anyone's problems.

With the leaders we have now they would return it back with an apology note; so its best where its at, among ghairat mand lok.
 
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After the death of Queen Elizabeth II last week, online users are calling for the British government to surrender artifacts obtained by the British Empire, including the Kohinoor diamond — one of the most famous diamonds in the world.

Conversations about the diamond — also spelled Koh-i-noor — which is part of the British crown jewels, have been trending on social media amid coverage of the queen’s death, with users posting their opinions about the empire — and memes about stealing the diamond back.

The online jokes aside, many point to the serious colonial history behind Britain’s possession of the diamond.

The Kohinoor, which means “Mountain of Light,” was originally about 186 carats, and while its exact origins are unknown, it was most likely discovered in South India in the 13th century.

Danielle Kinsey, an assistant professor of history with a focus on the history of 19th century Britain and empire at Carleton University in Ottawa, Ontario, said its impressive size often shrouds its less appealing history.

"More importantly, it has a history of being part of war booty or trophies taken as the result of war in South Asia. So in a lot of ways, it is a symbol of plunder and represents the long history of plunder imperialism,” she said.

Kinsey said one of the ways the British government and scholars rationalized British imperialism in India and other places around the world was to say that their brand of imperialism wasn’t about plunder but about uplifting and civilizing colonized populations.

“The actual histories of British imperialism tell a much different story, one of horrific violence, dispossession, prejudice and significant economic exploitation,” she said. “I think people are outraged by how the Kohinoor continues to function as a trophy of empire as long as it remains in the crown’s possession.”

The diamond found its way through the hands of several dynasties, beginning with the Mughals in the 16th century, then the Persians and then the Afghans, before the Sikh Maharaja Ranjit Singh obtained it in 1813.

Maharaja Duleep Singh, the son and successor of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, held on to the diamond until the British annexed Punjab in 1849. Duleep, only 11 years old, signed the Treaty of Lahore, which also stipulated that Duleep would give the diamond to the queen of England.

Lord Dalhousie, a Scottish statesman and governor-general of India, coerced Singh into “gifting” the diamond to Queen Victoria, Dalhousie wrote in a letter in August 1849 to his friend Sir George Couper.

“He had visions of it becoming the centerpiece of the British imperial crown and had visions of himself becoming famous for facilitating the crown’s appropriation of the stone,” she said.

The diamond was sent to England, and after an inspection, it was unveiled to the public at the Great Exhibition of 1851, where many were unimpressed with it, she said.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...ohinoor-diamond-s-know-turbulent-hi-rcna47284
It should be returned to Pakistan since Ranjeet Singh ruled Lahore & that was his
 
I support Indians on this issue.

Any wealth plundered in the colonial era should be returned and compensated.

It opens up a can of worms; how far back will people want to go?

Honestly, war booty is a right of the winning side. England rightfully won that treasure.

Other nations should not have wasted time and money on useless architecture like the Taj Mahal, etc., and made an excellent standing army to fend off foreign attacks. They should have invested in research and development of arms and education. South Asians wasted away on poems and songs and useless dances that brought no value to nation-building.

It's shameful they lost their land to a freaking business that had a privately funded army before the monarchy laid claim. These people aren't even worthy of being free now. Instead, they should all have been killed off.
 
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It should be returned to Pakistan since Ranjeet Singh ruled Lahore & that was his
Some piece of carbon should be the least of our issues, even if they did give back the Kohinoor, it would just stay in the hands of corrupt politicians and military generals. Bringing up these worthless issues is just a way to distract the attention of the public from more important issues in society, if Pakistan or India got the Kohinoor back, Hundreds of Millions of people in the subcontinent will still be living under the poverty line in miserable and subhuman conditions regardless.
 
After the death of Queen Elizabeth II last week, online users are calling for the British government to surrender artifacts obtained by the British Empire, including the Kohinoor diamond — one of the most famous diamonds in the world.

Conversations about the diamond — also spelled Koh-i-noor — which is part of the British crown jewels, have been trending on social media amid coverage of the queen’s death, with users posting their opinions about the empire — and memes about stealing the diamond back.

The online jokes aside, many point to the serious colonial history behind Britain’s possession of the diamond.

The Kohinoor, which means “Mountain of Light,” was originally about 186 carats, and while its exact origins are unknown, it was most likely discovered in South India in the 13th century.

Danielle Kinsey, an assistant professor of history with a focus on the history of 19th century Britain and empire at Carleton University in Ottawa, Ontario, said its impressive size often shrouds its less appealing history.

"More importantly, it has a history of being part of war booty or trophies taken as the result of war in South Asia. So in a lot of ways, it is a symbol of plunder and represents the long history of plunder imperialism,” she said.

Kinsey said one of the ways the British government and scholars rationalized British imperialism in India and other places around the world was to say that their brand of imperialism wasn’t about plunder but about uplifting and civilizing colonized populations.

“The actual histories of British imperialism tell a much different story, one of horrific violence, dispossession, prejudice and significant economic exploitation,” she said. “I think people are outraged by how the Kohinoor continues to function as a trophy of empire as long as it remains in the crown’s possession.”

The diamond found its way through the hands of several dynasties, beginning with the Mughals in the 16th century, then the Persians and then the Afghans, before the Sikh Maharaja Ranjit Singh obtained it in 1813.

Maharaja Duleep Singh, the son and successor of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, held on to the diamond until the British annexed Punjab in 1849. Duleep, only 11 years old, signed the Treaty of Lahore, which also stipulated that Duleep would give the diamond to the queen of England.

Lord Dalhousie, a Scottish statesman and governor-general of India, coerced Singh into “gifting” the diamond to Queen Victoria, Dalhousie wrote in a letter in August 1849 to his friend Sir George Couper.

“He had visions of it becoming the centerpiece of the British imperial crown and had visions of himself becoming famous for facilitating the crown’s appropriation of the stone,” she said.

The diamond was sent to England, and after an inspection, it was unveiled to the public at the Great Exhibition of 1851, where many were unimpressed with it, she said.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...ohinoor-diamond-s-know-turbulent-hi-rcna47284
Its Indias right to get it back. Surely it belongs to India.
 
Its Indias right to get it back. Surely it belongs to India.
Modi ji will just use the diamond to put it on his turban for show off purposes, and to give the public a false sense of pride and prosperity to distract them from their miserable daily lives. It won't magically turn the country into a prosperous place or make it less jaahil then it already is, even Afghanistan and Iran claim the Kohinoor.
 
It should be returned in three pieces to pakistan, india and bangladesh.
 
Duleep, only 11 years old, signed the Treaty of Lahore, which also stipulated that Duleep would give the diamond to the queen of England
The Treaty of Lahore was an instrument of British loot and blackmail. Like a robber who puts his gun on your head and demands cash from you.
Now today when you ask them to return Kohinoor they say it's acquired lawfully by the treaty of Lahore.
 
Modi ji will just use the diamond to put it on his turban for show off purposes, and to give the public a false sense of pride and prosperity to distract them from their miserable daily lives. It won't magically turn the country into a prosperous place or make it less jaahil then it already is, even Afghanistan and Iran claim the Kohinoor.
Modi is doing way better than any past or present leader of Pakistan.
 

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