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The Hypocrisy of Afghan People towards Pakistan

Couple of days ago when Pakistan Government closed down the border I went to Ali's shop just to buy few things from him. I asked him whether or not he has fixed his problem. He told me that his uncle denied him any kind a help. So I asked him sincerely that he should now at least go ahead and register himself as an Afghan Refugee since according to him he has no thumb expressions or any kind of record of him neither with Nadra nor with Afghan Consulate. It made him worried and make me feel bad for him once again. But then we had an argument over the closer of the Afghan border. I told him that his current Government is playing under the hands of Indian Government, he denied it as the rest of the Afghans. When I asked him about the price of the tomatoes he replied 140 Rs. I told him it was just yesterday when I paid 60, how come the price has jumped this high, he replied with an evil smile on his face, that go ahead and close down the border on us once again and you guys will die because of a hunger. His remarks made me worried and I started to realize that yes indeed we are now two different Nationalities, there is no so called brotherhood left between us.


Today just an hour ago before writing this article I went to his shop and after Islamic greetings I congratulated him that the Pakistani Government has finally reopened the Afghan border. Instead of accepting my sincere wishes he replied to me that "well you guys are lucky otherwise your country would had lost in Billions, if you close Our border again India will stop supplying you tomatoes and other vegetables and People in Pakistan will suffer, you guys will suffer soon when India will get a chance to put its hands onto you" this time I went rocker of my head, I said to him "you ungrateful bastards you live here, you earn here, you dig the every single fortune of this Country yet here you are abusing and cursing the every single fortune that this Country has given it to you" I suggested him that he should leave this Country ASAP otherwise if he gets caught, People from Government will do whatever they desire to do with him.

Shameless people. Spread hate about Pakistan and beg to stay at the same time.

He's is another brainwashed afghani, no need to report poor soul. Its partially Pakistan fault for giving them freedom to do what ever like any other Pakistani and now suddenly they are asked to go back. He most be dead scared looking at situation of Afghanistan, its hell on earth for refugees going back. Imagine poorest Pakistani and then add even more misery, that's afghani for you. They no longer have anything in Afghanistan, their lands have been occupied by those who didn't left.

But your advice to him was good, he should at least register with UN. They will then give him $400 and wheat for 6 months when moving back. If police caught him without CNIC then he will likely get deported empty handed. Can't blame his uncle because Nadra is under pressure now because of corruption. His uncle got away with CNIC but will be in real danger of getting caught if tried to add him to family tree.

Forced to go back home, Afghan refugees find they have 'no future' anywhere

The land is lush in this river-fed region of eastern Afghanistan. The highway that leads to the Pakistan border, 60 miles away, passes fields of ripening wheat, cucumber and cauliflower. The nearby city of Jalalabad is bustling, with crowded sidewalks and traffic jams of produce trucks, auto rickshaws and tractors.

But for a large, nearly invisible populace of new arrivals, the welcome has been grudging, the work scarce and the terrain as barren as the moon.

They are natives of the region, but they have been away for years, living as undocumented war refugees in Pakistan. About 260,000 such returnees have arrived in the past 15 months, pushed out by Pakistani authorities and encouraged to return by the Afghan government, but lacking official status in either country.

In many ways, they are misfits and intruders in their homeland - nomads allocated bits of rocky ground to pitch tents and build cinder-block huts; surplus labourers in a market crowded with men who have fled insurgent fighting nearby; half-forgotten relatives trying to squeeze back into villages where no one has room to take them in.


"There is nothing here but dust," said Hakim Khan, 55, a labourer and father of 10, standing on a stony hillside where the government said about 700 returnee families could settle at no cost. After seven months, most have gotten only as far as marking their plots with cinder-block walls, partly because of a dispute over who owns the land.

Meanwhile, they are camping in makeshift shelters, fashioned from bits of plastic and cloth and covered with sheets of tin. There is no electricity, and the only water source for 4,000 people is a single well. There is a one-room schoolhouse, but few of the children attend.

Inside Khan's tent one recent morning, three cots were jammed together next to a gas burner and a stack of pots. Children ran in and out, chasing chickens. His wife, hiding behind a curtain, was asked to name her most valuable possession. "There is nothing valuable enough to mention," she answered.


Most of these returnees never registered with the Pakistani government, which meant they were not entitled to cash payments and other forms of assistance by the United Nations' refugee agency when Pakistani officials began pushing out more than 2 million long-term refugees two years ago.

Many others with official refugee status continued on to Kabul, the capital, where services and work opportunities are greater. But these undocumented families - mostly poor and uneducated, with few connections - have stayed behind, hoping to find a niche in their geographic and ethnic Pashtun homeland.

At the moment, the official border crossing at Torkham is closed, a punitive measure taken by Pakistan last month after a string of terrorist bombings there were linked to militias based on the Afghan side. The flood of returnees slowed to a trickle this winter, although UN officials expect it will resume when spring comes and the border reopens.

Meanwhile, those who arrived last year, piling their possessions in rented trucks, have tentatively settled in a variety of camps, communities and government-allocated tracts. Their only substantive aid comes from the non-profit International Organisation for Migration, which provides shelter and basic supplies for the first few weeks, plus transportation to their destination.

"We are there when they arrive at the border, but what happens after that is a different issue," said Matthew Graydon, a spokesman for the organisation here.

One major problem is securing property rights. Most arable or habitable terrain is already claimed, and some arriving groups who attempted to reclaim family land have found that others had acquired it and expected them to pay. In the village of Karokhel, 500 families came back last summer, planning to put up homes, and instead became embroiled in a nasty fight.

"This is our ancestors' land, and we kissed the stones when we arrived. But now it feels like a prison," said Hajji Mahmad Jan, 65, who left Karokhel 40 years ago. Most families are living in tents, with wheat sheaves for fences, while the legal wrangle continues. "Just to fetch a bucket of water from the spring, we have to pay 50 cents," he complained.

Another shock is the scarcity of jobs, with the national unemployment rate at 40 percent. Early each day, returnees crowd street corners in Jalalabad, hoping for temporary work hauling bricks or loading trucks. One recent morning, several glum men said they had waited for weeks without snagging a single job. One became so desperate that he spent months in a distant migrant camp, picking grapes for $5 a day.

Returnees also face job competition from villagers displaced by the insurgent conflict. Some have fled fighting between Taliban and government forces; others have escaped districts controlled by more violent Islamic State-linked militias. Jalalabad is relatively safe, with security forces guarding and patrolling the roads, so the jobless population has swelled.

The luckiest newcomers, others say, are those with relatives and communities to welcome them back. But they too may be struggling to get by. If a long-absent uncle suddenly reappears with an extended family of 20, Pashtun tradition demands that they all be accommodated, but resentment can fester and disputes flare.

In one farming village north of Jalalabad, bordering the Kunar River, five local families returned from Pakistan last fall. There was no space for them, and tensions soon erupted. Two brothers in their 30s, one an engineer and the other a business owner in Pakistan, found themselves jobless and living with their families in dark, mud-walled rooms that opened onto a yard for sheep and goats.

"For the first few nights, my children kept asking why we didn't turn on the lights," the businessman, Nanjialai Khan, said bitterly. The engineer, Rafiullah, confessed that he could not bear the idea of working as a farm labourer. "People here work hard. They use shovels," he said, making a digging gesture and then showing his palms. "It is difficult when you have had a softer life."

Another man from the same family said he had no choice but to pitch a tent in the yard of a relative with whom he had a personal grievance going back years. He seemed distraught and said he was unable to sleep.

"Here we have to live with our enemies, but we have nowhere else to go," said the man, speaking in a whisper. He said he did not remember the village, and that his earliest memory was of fleeing across the border as a tiny child after Soviet forces attacked Afghanistan. "This is my country," he said, "but I cannot see the future at all."

© The Washington Post


This is horrific, but the Afghans have had a very long time to deal with this. We gave them extension after extension so they can prepare, its not our fault if they decided to do nothing in a decade or so. The Afghan govt. should have been building shelters or set up relevant departments instead of funneling money into anti-Pak groups.

Its illogical to blame Pakistan for their problems, We gave Afghanistan $500 million in aid not that long ago, and each refugee is given money and free grain, whereas other states like Germany simply raid their homes in the middle of the night and send them on a plane without even letting them collect their belongings.

Also, Afghans are treated like second-class citizens in Iran and mass deported yet ive never heard a single word against them?
 
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Afghanistan has become like hell, I think now this country is almost hopless.
It got involved in great power politics and got destroyed.
One of them asked for 50 thousand in bribe
Corruption is one of the evils that requires no foreign interference to prosper, it is in the hearts of the individual to be corrupt.
I can say clearly that RAW has no hands in spreading corruption in Pakistan.
 
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Would you mind if you share me the contact details of the concerned department please?

Police or NADRA.

I have heard that police in KP is anyway very friendly these days, so you could give them a tip-off. :-)
 
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I can say clearly that RAW has no hands in spreading corruption in Pakistan.

That's a separate argument and I would love to have a brief converse on this one sometime. (If RAW doesn't inject black money into Pakistan's Civil Departments than that's a failure of RAW, and if it is the case than I must say, RAW shouldn't be considered a spy agency, instead it should be considered a municipality services agency) No offence but if are a logical person you would agree with me.
 
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And that's the reason I wrote this article, see I know I have duties towards this Country and I am completely aware that my silence is not good at this stage, but don't you reckon that our own Government doesn't give a f*** about them? Have you seen a campaign against Afghan Refugees? Have you seen that our Government has established a special task force for the identity of the illegal residence? I haven't seen one. So tell me, even if I know that this guy will do more harm to this Country whom should I speak to? No one cares, how I know? Well, one of Ali's friend was at his shop the other day. He was extremely tensed. When I asked him that what happened to him, Ali replied that his Pakistani ID card is in scrutiny now for the last 4 months. I asked why, Ali replied that "His father married twice and that he has 14 children including him. When he was born his father was told that if he writes his date of birth at least 6 years earlier than whats his actual age is, than it will make him a legit Citizen of Pakistan before anything goes wrong. Hence, his father managed to bribe the hospitals in Peshawar and mentioned his year of birth 1991 while he was born in 1996, when he went to NADRA for his new ID card, they NADRA attendant reported him as a fraud and an inquiry started against his Domicile and his legitimacy. He was than sent to the NADRA headquarters and his case was forwarded to IB. Two IB officers on two different occasions came to his house and interviewed him. One of them asked for 50 thousand in bribe. The other one however according to him was an honest man, he told him that his case is an easy to go and that it will be resolved in no time.

Now my question is that why doesn't NADRA call upon his entire family for a scrutiny? And how come they let go off such an illegitimate person without knowing about his family?

Well sir its your duty to report to police at least do your part rest lies on the institutes you should go with FIR it will be exhausting but its your national duty too.
the problem with institute officials is either they are too soft or corrupt maybe this country needs someone like rheinhard heydrich to get rid of these Afghan scum.
 
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I have heard that police in KP is anyway very friendly these days, so you could give them a tip-off. :-)

KP Police friendliness isn't for thugs and malefactors but is for those who are in desperate in need at the time when they require Police services the most. KP Police behavior and attitude towards civilians is worth praising for. They try to give as much as respect to the victims as to extent their dignity stays intact.
 
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KP Police friendliness isn't for thugs and malefactors but is for those who are in desperate in need at the time when they require Police services the most. KP Police behavior and attitude towards civilians is worth praising for. They try to give as much as respect to the victims as to extent their dignity stays intact.

No I meant, you could give them a tip-off, they will actually be thankful that civilians are finally co-operating with the police in order to curb the crime and catch all those illegal people.
 
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you should go with FIR

Ya and so should I must carry few grands in my pocket just to give those cops a good relief.

your national duty too.

My National duty was to inform one of those Citizens of Pakistan who are desperate to help out this Country, and I believe I have delivered my message, rest is all up to those who are responsible for the peace and prosperity of this Country. If you are aware of a concerned department that you believe is responsible for the actions of illegal immigrants than please do share it in here with us.

No I meant, you could give them a tip-off, they will actually be thankful that civilians are finally co-operating with the police in order to curb the crime and catch all those illegal people.

I don't live in KP, I live somewhere in between twin cities where checking an ID card is highly doubtful, and so as this guy. As I explained it earlier he operates his shop in a vicinity where I live.
 
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Ya and so should I must carry few grands in my pocket just to give those cops a good relief.

no you do not to pay anything go to muharar at the police station with application and ask hit to lodge FIR. If you are residing in KPK the process will take no time.
i have never been in a situation like this so cannot tell which state institutes are dealing with such cases
senior members can guide you here
 
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to pay anything go to muharar at the police station with application and ask hit to lodge FIR

My friend, I have lived most of my life overseas but the time that I have spent here in Pakistan taught me one great lesson and that is, do not ever go near to Pakistan's specially Punjab and Sindh Police Stations. If yes, I was in KP I would have went to the Police Station without a fear.

i have never been in a situation like this so cannot tell which state institutes are dealing with such cases
senior members can guide you here
And neither have I, it is my first ever time that I am dealing with a situation like this. And I humbly request to the senior members that if they know the concerned departments and the contact details than please do share it with us. Because who knows in near future every single member on this forum needs it.
 
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The government should run a program. Report a Afghani, and if the Afghani is found to be illegal, the person would get a monetary reward (Something like SR5000). Win-win situation.

I've just heard on tv when some Bengali called that corrupt census officials are picking up bengalis from Karachi and then releasing them after taking 4000-5000 rupees. Not sure if reporting will work. By the time census is over government should have pretty good idea about afghanis and other illegals without documents.

From Pakistan only those illegal afghanis have moved back who couldn't pay police bribe every time they were arrested.
 
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For Centuries People from both end Pakistan and Afghanistan were called Pushtuns because there was no Durand-Line no border and no hatred between Pushtun People. But than their came East-Indian Company and along with it, it brought British Army and hence the entire Afghanistan was divided into two Countries. For years, I used to think that Afghans are our brothers, they are just like us and that there is no division between us whether a Pushtun lives across the border or here in Pakistan he will follow only one rule and that is Pushtun-Wali.


But now, things have gone way too far. I reckon we aren't the same People anymore. Though we speak the same language Pushto, though we have the same tribal customs, rules and regulations. Though we still follow the Pushtun-Wali custom but no there is no possible way to think that we are the same People, we are different, yes we are Pakistanis and they are Afghans.


When Pakistan came into being we were only 40 Million, at that time we left roughly around 55 million Muslims in India, as the time went by the Population of Muslims increased every single year. Now we are around 220 Million and they are roughly about 225 Million. We Pakistanis speak Urdu and so as the Muslims across the border in India speaks the same Language and they also call it Urdu. We love Baryani, Polao, Beef, Lamb, Goat, Chicken curry etc and so as they do. But if you ask any Indian Muslim that would he or she ever come to Pakistan and live here permanently their answer will be no (in exceptional cases I might be wrong) and if mistakenly you said something bad about India they will hate you for that forever. That's how the Indian Muslims are apparently. And I don't expect less from them, it's their Country they should react the way the do. When we Pakistanis live abroad and someone abuses our Country we don't spare their lives, some of us even go to an extreme level of retaliation.


I explained everything above just because of one reason and it is that I have encountered a very odd sitch. Before I get into the main story that what exactly happened let me please explain you and give a brief introductory of a person about whom I am writing this article for and the reasons behind it. He is off-course an Afghan Pushtun.


I have known Ali (I made up this name I don't want to expose his name for many reasons) for almost 4 months now. He runs a small vegetable and fruit shop in a vicinity where I live. Couple of weeks ago when the Pakistan Government announced that it will commence the sixth census in the Country, lots of Afghans got frightened because they believed that they are on the verge of a massive deportation that will be starting soon. Hence, Ali who is around 19 or 20 years old started to panicking as well, out of curiosity and anxiety and also because of a fear he asked me to do him a favour, a favour of explaining him that how can he protect himself from deportation and become a Citizen of Pakistan, offcourse illegally.


We Pakistanis have to admit that we have an extremely soft heart, no matter if you are a Punjabi or Sindhi or Saraiki or Balochi or Pathan or Gilgiti you will be up to help a person if he is in need. So I was extremely sympathetic towards him. He runs this shop in collaboration with his maternal uncle. Who also happens to be an ex-Afghani, why have I used this word ex? Because according to him he made his Pakistani ID card back in 1992 only paying a Rs 20 thousand in bribe.


Now, Ali told me that what if he declares that he is the son of his elder maternal uncle? no one will find out right? According to him his elder brother did the same, he said that his elder brother declared that he is the eldest son of one of their relatives and he is living a free life in Karachi as a Citizen of Pakistan. And when I thought about it he was right, who the hell would know. Do we have a medical laboratories and DNA testing facilities where we will be able to test whether the family relations are authentic or not? No off-course we don't have, nobody in our Government cares. But what happened was that when he discussed this matter with his elder uncle he denied to support him by any means because in this world nothing is free. According to him his uncle was frightened that what if the enquiry happens after his ID card and he will be caught.


Ali family lives in Afghanistan, according to him his mother died when he was only 8, his father re-married and his step-mother doesn't give a f*** about him. He lives here because economically Pakistan is feasible for him, in other words he doesn't give a f**** about Pakistan, and he hates his step-family.


Couple of days ago when Pakistan Government closed down the border I went to Ali's shop just to buy few things from him. I asked him whether or not he has fixed his problem. He told me that his uncle denied him any kind a help. So I asked him sincerely that he should now at least go ahead and register himself as an Afghan Refugee since according to him he has no thumb expressions or any kind of record of him neither with Nadra nor with Afghan Consulate. It made him worried and make me feel bad for him once again. But then we had an argument over the closer of the Afghan border. I told him that his current Government is playing under the hands of Indian Government, he denied it as the rest of the Afghans. When I asked him about the price of the tomatoes he replied 140 Rs. I told him it was just yesterday when I paid 60, how come the price has jumped this high, he replied with an evil smile on his face, that go ahead and close down the border on us once again and you guys will die because of a hunger. His remarks made me worried and I started to realize that yes indeed we are now two different Nationalities, there is no so called brotherhood left between us.


Today just an hour ago before writing this article I went to his shop and after Islamic greetings I congratulated him that the Pakistani Government has finally reopened the Afghan border. Instead of accepting my sincere wishes he replied to me that "well you guys are lucky otherwise your country would had lost in Billions, if you close Our border again India will stop supplying you tomatoes and other vegetables and People in Pakistan will suffer, you guys will suffer soon when India will get a chance to put its hands onto you" this time I went rocker of my head, I said to him "you ungrateful bastards you live here, you earn here, you dig the every single fortune of this Country yet here you are abusing and cursing the every single fortune that this Country has given it to you" I suggested him that he should leave this Country ASAP otherwise if he gets caught, People from Government will do whatever they desire to do with him.


I must confess that I wanted to report him, but then I realized that I shouldn't, and this is why it made me write this article for you guys. I need your suggestions, that what if someone is in a situation like me? Isn't this our duty to report a matters like these to our concerned departments? What if we do, is it considered a sin in Islam. I am completely confused about it and I need a help from every single person out there. I urge to the Government departments too that they really should look into the matters and come out with a solution of the genuine concerns that I have just explained earlier.


This is our Country and we will protect it no matter what. Our elders died and have had given an unlimited, unconditional sacrifices for this Country not because some Afghans ruin its peace and prosperity. I believe our Government and our establishment should look into this matter more seriously, if they let everyone to be the Citizen of Pakistan than I believe Syrians, Yemenis Kashmiris and Palestinians deserve to be the Citizen of Pakistan more than these ungrateful Afghans.

Salam brother. Thank you for your writing here in PDF. Brother if i was you, if definitely report not only him but also his all relative. He is challenging us (all Pakistani's) and his whole family should know what suffering means. He earn from us yet he is also playing double game with us like his Govt is doing. We give them respect, shelter, business etc etc. and in return what is doing is not only against us but also against Islam. All these kinds of rats must be send back or else they will eat all of our wheat. I highly recommend you to report him and identify his whole family as well. I also feel that if he is easily brain wash then may be later if he got the chance he will definitely hurt Pakistan. So please do report
 
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he is also playing double game with us like his Govt is doing.

Ya they are hypocrite, I agree with you on this one.

or else they will eat all of our wheat.
They have been eating it for decades, it isn't about food my dear brother, its all about our Sovereignty.

I also feel that if he is easily brain wash then may be later if he got the chance he will definitely hurt Pakistan.

Yes you are right about this one just like few of the other guys mentioned it earlier. I am looking for concerned department's contact details, once I have it on me I will make sure he and his uncles and rest of his friends will go through the same process of scrutiny just the way the other Afghans have.

I've just heard on tv when some Bengali called that corrupt census officials are picking up bengalis from Karachi and then releasing them after taking 4000-5000 rupees. Not sure if reporting will work. By the time census is over government should have pretty good idea about afghanis and other illegals without documents.

From Pakistan only those illegal afghanis have moved back who couldn't pay police bribe every time they were arrested.


Exactly mate, now that's what my concern too. All those corrupt officials who are bound to look into these matters do not give a dam. Tell me if I can figure it out that he is an Afghani than I believe they too can, only if they get sincere towards their job.
 
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Salam brother. Thank you for your writing here in PDF. Brother if i was you, if definitely report not only him but also his all relative. He is challenging us (all Pakistani's) and his whole family should know what suffering means. He earn from us yet he is also playing double game with us like his Govt is doing. We give them respect, shelter, business etc etc. and in return what is doing is not only against us but also against Islam. All these kinds of rats must be send back or else they will eat all of our wheat. I highly recommend you to report him and identify his whole family as well. I also feel that if he is easily brain wash then may be later if he got the chance he will definitely hurt Pakistan. So please do report
Also those Pakistanis who were involved in his bribery, should be hanged till dead. It is not just the Afghan's fault.
 
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