Someone mentioned at 2 40 that India is developing additional capabilities on Mirage on its own...what might those be ?
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Someone mentioned at 2 40 that India is developing additional capabilities on Mirage on its own...what might those be ?
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- overhaul of the airframe (inluding new coatings and paintjob)
- new radar
- new avionics
- new EW (fully integrated now)
- larger external fuel tanks
- MICA missiles at wing and 4 fuselage stations
- HMS (most likely via Samtel and integrated in India)
- SPICE PGMs (most likely integrated in India)
- Litening LDP (already done in India on older versions)
- most likely twin pylon for 500lb LGBs
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Which radar, RDY 2?
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Considering there is an anemometric perch front nose, i'd bet on RDY3 (aund a different one from Moroccans). No clue.
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Just heard that Indian AF No. 9 Sqn 'Wolfpack' at Gwalior will be first to receive upgraded Mirage 2000I/TI fighters.
A Dassault Mirage 2000 of the UAE air force stands ready at the 2011 Dubai Air Show. Thales will upgrade Indian Mirages with its RDY-3 airborne fire control radar. (Photo: Mark Wagner)
RDY-3 - AIRBORNE FIRE CONTROL RADAR
The RDY-3 features all the advanced functions required on a multirole aircraft of the 21st century.
The Air-to-Air function with its advanced automatic mode management reduces pilot workload - search domain management, highest priority targets ranking and sorting - and allows better tactical situation assessment and mission efficiency.
Multiple scanning patterns as well as angular domain and scanning speed are automatically managed by the radar.
Advanced Combat modes with fast and automatic target acquisition and tracking adapted to hard target manoeuvres at short range; high quality of target designation associated to simultaneous multi-tracking and multi-shoot capability.
The Air-to-Surface modes adapted to various missions: Navigation, Surveillance, Target, Acquisition, Very-Low Level penetration.
The reference in its category:
• Light weight and multifunction radar
• Modular design
• Adaptable to a wide range of combat aircraft
OPERATIONAL BENEFITS
Air-to-air function
• Very long range, all aspect, look-up / look-down detection
• Automatic waveform management and antenna scanning
• Multi-target automatic lock-on and TWS
• Simultaneous multi-target fire control
• Single Target Track
• Combat modes
• IFF interrogator capability
Air-to-ground function
RDY-3 provides all the modes required for day and night, all weather operations:
• High Resolution Mapping spotlight SAR (picture)
• Terrain Avoidance (Contour Mapping for Blind Penetration)
• Moving Target Indication and Tracking
• Air-to-Ground Ranging
• Freeze / Silence
Air-to-sea function
RDY-3 provides all the modes required for BVR attack of surface ships:
• Long-range detection
• Multi-target TWS
• Target RCS assessment
• STT
• ISAR (option)
Others
• Easy Air-to-Surface modes transitions
DESIGN AND TECHNOLOGY
• In the RDY Fire Control Radar family, the RDY-3 features latest generation design and technology of Thales Aerospace Division
• Compact design with only 4 LRUs
• Easy to install in various combat aircraft
• Full function radar test bench for radar integration (LRU's assembling), target simulation, maintenance and training
RDY-3 KEY FEATURES
Indian Upgraded includes RDY-2.RDY-3 is a less capable version of RDY-2.
RC-400 Is based on RDY-3 which the French might offer as a future upgrade to Pak JF-17's.
Here are the specs of RDY-2
Central to the upgraded multirole capability of the Dash 5 is the RDY radar developed by Thomson-CSF/Detexis. Development of the RDY radar began in 1984 and the programme proceeded smoothly. In July 1987 the first of nine prototypes took to the air in a Falcon 20, and seven years later in December 1994, Thomson-CSF were able to deliver the first production standard set. RDY is the result of Thomson-CSF's experience gained from producing four generations of fighter radar, in particular the RDI radar -the first Pulse Doppler radar developed by Thomson-CSF.
The RDY can select one of three PRF (Pulse Repetition Frequency) modes, namely low, medium and high when operating in the air intercept mode (Auto Waveform Management). Low PRF is employed in the Look - Up mode. High PRF is best suited to long range Look - Down, while Medium PRF is used at all altitudes due to its reliable target detection properties. Thomson - CSF have developed algorithms that continually optimise the wave form to guarantee the highest target discrimination, even when the enemy is using advanced ECM. RDY has proved its ability to accurately measure target range even in heavy ground clutter and consistently demonstrates a �False Alarm Rate� of zero. When operating in the air-to-ground mode, the RDY employs Doppler Beam Sharpening, terrain mapping and air-to-ground ranging. RDY can simultaneously detect 24 airborne targets, irrespective of their altitude, track the eight most threatening and auto-prioritise four of them. Thomson-CSF/Detexis quote the look-up, look-down, shoot-up, shoot-down performance as being 70 km. In actual practice engagements conducted by the French AdlA, RDY has demonstrated its ability to detect, reliably, fighter size targets at 140 km. Great effort has been made reduce the effectiveness of any ECM that the enemy might choose to employ. Of significance is the advanced signal processing and the Monopulse receiver with its three independent channels. The RDY is however being developed further. The latest version, RDY-2 has a 15% greater air-to-air range, a SAR (Synthetic Aperture Radar) mode that allows ground mapping with a resolution of less than one metre and refined moving ground target tracking.
For Further reference -
LiveFist: Heart of the IAF Mirage-2000 Upgrade
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You cannot compare RDY-2 to N011M Bars.RDY-2 Is a Multimode Pulse Doppler Radar where as N011M Bars Is a PESA.No11M is far more powerful than Rdy-2.
N011M Bars Specifications
The forward facing NIIP N011M Bars (Panther) is a powerful integrated passive electronically scanned array radar. The N011M is a digital multi-mode dual frequency band radar.The N011M can function in air-to-air and air-to-land/sea mode simultaneously while being tied into a high-precision laser-inertial or GPS navigation system.It is equipped with a modern digital weapons control system as well as anti-jamming features. N011M has a 350 km search range and a maximum 200 km tracking range, and 60 km in the rear hemisphere. The radar can track 15 air targets and engage the 4 most dangerous simultaneously.These targets can even include cruise missiles and motionless helicopters.The Su-30MKI can function as a mini-AWACS as a director or command post for other aircraft.The target co-ordinates can be transferred automatically to at least 4 other aircraft.The radar can detect ground targets such as tanks at 40�50 km.
Avionics -
Mirage is a French aircraft & all its avionics are of french origin.
Su-30MKI has a Mix of Russian,Indian,French & Israel's Avionics.The avionics On su-30MKI are more better than any Mirage-2000 Version.
A Dassault Mirage 2000 of the UAE air force stands ready at the 2011 Dubai Air Show. Thales will upgrade Indian Mirages with its RDY-3 airborne fire control radar. (Photo: Mark Wagner)
RDY-3 - AIRBORNE FIRE CONTROL RADAR
The RDY-3 features all the advanced functions required on a multirole aircraft of the 21st century.
The Air-to-Air function with its advanced automatic mode management reduces pilot workload - search domain management, highest priority targets ranking and sorting - and allows better tactical situation assessment and mission efficiency.
Multiple scanning patterns as well as angular domain and scanning speed are automatically managed by the radar.
Advanced Combat modes with fast and automatic target acquisition and tracking adapted to hard target manoeuvres at short range; high quality of target designation associated to simultaneous multi-tracking and multi-shoot capability.
The Air-to-Surface modes adapted to various missions: Navigation, Surveillance, Target, Acquisition, Very-Low Level penetration.
The reference in its category:
• Light weight and multifunction radar
• Modular design
• Adaptable to a wide range of combat aircraft
OPERATIONAL BENEFITS
Air-to-air function
• Very long range, all aspect, look-up / look-down detection
• Automatic waveform management and antenna scanning
• Multi-target automatic lock-on and TWS
• Simultaneous multi-target fire control
• Single Target Track
• Combat modes
• IFF interrogator capability
Air-to-ground function
RDY-3 provides all the modes required for day and night, all weather operations:
• High Resolution Mapping spotlight SAR (picture)
• Terrain Avoidance (Contour Mapping for Blind Penetration)
• Moving Target Indication and Tracking
• Air-to-Ground Ranging
• Freeze / Silence
Air-to-sea function
RDY-3 provides all the modes required for BVR attack of surface ships:
• Long-range detection
• Multi-target TWS
• Target RCS assessment
• STT
• ISAR (option)
Others
• Easy Air-to-Surface modes transitions
DESIGN AND TECHNOLOGY
• In the RDY Fire Control Radar family, the RDY-3 features latest generation design and technology of Thales Aerospace Division
• Compact design with only 4 LRUs
• Easy to install in various combat aircraft
• Full function radar test bench for radar integration (LRU's assembling), target simulation, maintenance and training
RDY-3 KEY FEATURES
- Modular design
- Light weight: < 120 kg
- Low power consumption: 3.5 kVA
- Different antenna sizes available
- High average transmitted power: 400 W
- Up-to-date signal processing technologies
- COTS components for obsolescence protection
- 1553 Bus
- Advanced ECCM features
- Very Low False Alarm Rate
- Flexibility and growth potential
- Efficient BITE and maintenance concept for reduced
Indian Upgraded includes RDY-2.RDY-3 is a less capable version of RDY-2.
RC-400 Is based on RDY-3 which the French might offer as a future upgrade to Pak JF-17's.
Here are the specs of RDY-2
Central to the upgraded multirole capability of the Dash 5 is the RDY radar developed by Thomson-CSF/Detexis. Development of the RDY radar began in 1984 and the programme proceeded smoothly. In July 1987 the first of nine prototypes took to the air in a Falcon 20, and seven years later in December 1994, Thomson-CSF were able to deliver the first production standard set. RDY is the result of Thomson-CSF's experience gained from producing four generations of fighter radar, in particular the RDI radar -the first Pulse Doppler radar developed by Thomson-CSF.
The RDY can select one of three PRF (Pulse Repetition Frequency) modes, namely low, medium and high when operating in the air intercept mode (Auto Waveform Management). Low PRF is employed in the Look - Up mode. High PRF is best suited to long range Look - Down, while Medium PRF is used at all altitudes due to its reliable target detection properties. Thomson - CSF have developed algorithms that continually optimise the wave form to guarantee the highest target discrimination, even when the enemy is using advanced ECM. RDY has proved its ability to accurately measure target range even in heavy ground clutter and consistently demonstrates a �False Alarm Rate� of zero. When operating in the air-to-ground mode, the RDY employs Doppler Beam Sharpening, terrain mapping and air-to-ground ranging. RDY can simultaneously detect 24 airborne targets, irrespective of their altitude, track the eight most threatening and auto-prioritise four of them. Thomson-CSF/Detexis quote the look-up, look-down, shoot-up, shoot-down performance as being 70 km. In actual practice engagements conducted by the French AdlA, RDY has demonstrated its ability to detect, reliably, fighter size targets at 140 km. Great effort has been made reduce the effectiveness of any ECM that the enemy might choose to employ. Of significance is the advanced signal processing and the Monopulse receiver with its three independent channels. The RDY is however being developed further. The latest version, RDY-2 has a 15% greater air-to-air range, a SAR (Synthetic Aperture Radar) mode that allows ground mapping with a resolution of less than one metre and refined moving ground target tracking.
For Further reference -
LiveFist: Heart of the IAF Mirage-2000 Upgrade
Group
You cannot compare RDY-2 to N011M Bars.RDY-2 Is a Multimode Pulse Doppler Radar where as N011M Bars Is a PESA.No11M is far more powerful than Rdy-2.
N011M Bars Specifications
The forward facing NIIP N011M Bars (Panther) is a powerful integrated passive electronically scanned array radar. The N011M is a digital multi-mode dual frequency band radar.The N011M can function in air-to-air and air-to-land/sea mode simultaneously while being tied into a high-precision laser-inertial or GPS navigation system.It is equipped with a modern digital weapons control system as well as anti-jamming features. N011M has a 350 km search range and a maximum 200 km tracking range, and 60 km in the rear hemisphere. The radar can track 15 air targets and engage the 4 most dangerous simultaneously.These targets can even include cruise missiles and motionless helicopters.The Su-30MKI can function as a mini-AWACS as a director or command post for other aircraft.The target co-ordinates can be transferred automatically to at least 4 other aircraft.The radar can detect ground targets such as tanks at 40�50 km.
Avionics -
Mirage is a French aircraft & all its avionics are of french origin.
Su-30MKI has a Mix of Russian,Indian,French & Israel's Avionics.The avionics On su-30MKI are more better than any Mirage-2000 Version.
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Thales will upgrade Indian Mirages with its RDY-3 airborne fire control radar.
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