The Crisis in Europe: 3 million migrant arrivals expected in Europe by 2017: EU

[Aepsilons]

Which borders exactly?

All of them; especially towards undocumented aliens.

As long as people don't get shot dead attending a rock concert i really don't care if they hate us.They can hate us all they want from behind a fence,just like a chained rabid dog.

The moment they take their 'hate' and apply it into violent action, that is the moment the thin red line is crossed. Then it is right for Europe to retaliate in a responsible manner.

 

[Penguin]

All of them; especially towards undocumented aliens.

That would mean the end of freedom of movement of people IN the EU.

The moment they take their 'hate' and apply it into violent action, that is the moment the thin red line is crossed. Then it is right for Europe to retaliate in a responsible manner.

Who is 'they' in your sentence? A (relative) few extremists, or all refugees/immigrants? We should punish the vast majority for the acts of a few that are lost? How civilized.

 

[Aepsilons]

That would mean the end of freedom of movement of people IN the EU.

Freedom of movement would be guaranteed if one is documented European citizen OR resident alien (documented); but for those who are undocumented, they should be denied freedom of entry into the Eurozone. For security reasons, of course. Eject all illegals out.

Who is 'they' in your sentence? A (relative) few extremists, or all refugees/immigrants? We should punish the vast majority for the acts of a few that are lost? How civilized.

They = undocumented illegal immigrants ; undocumented refugees.

 

[Nilgiri]

In complete agreement with @Nihonjin1051 .

Illegals must be ejected...and all refugees let in legally must be sequestered in an organised way.

Right now Europe is letting in a flood, keeping their fingers crossed nothings gonna happen.

Well Paris happened.....whats next?

Europe must also introspect its own citizens...especially those in the ghettos where sanctuary is provided to extremists including those returning from Syria and other warzones.

 

[-SINAN-]

Now i see how hard it has been for Turkey in controlling these threats. What EUROPE needs to do is to increase support for Turkey in addressing this humanitarian issue and to support Turkey's bastion in fighting these DAESH threat.

1-) We will not house 3 million refugees (or more) in our country for EU money.
2-) We will not fight against Daesh on our own. If France or US wants Turkey in game, they have to stand shoulder to shoulder with us.

I appreciate Turkey's response. They took in 1.5 mil people.
But does Turkey have camps to accommodate 3 million Syrian refugees? Then why not confine them there? Why let them cross your country and into the West?

And thanks for the picture.

Not all of them are in camps. Some doesn't want to stay at camps, some stay with their relatives in Turkey.

Others doesn't want to stay in Turkey. For example, Peshmerga liberated Sinjar a week ago. There were 5000 Ezidi Kurds living in a camp in Turkey whom fled Sinjar during ISIS assault. Journalists interviewed them. They said almost 2500 of them all ready gone to Europe. Rest of them doesn't want to return to their homes in Sinjar....saying

"We don't trust Peshmerga and Iraqi forces as at the last time they retreat and left us with the ISIS. If some foreign country guarantees are safety we will return Sinjar other that we would drawn in the Aegean but wouldn't return to Sinjar."

As long as the ISIS runs rampage in Syria and Iraq refugees will flow to Europe. Europe can't do anything about it.

 

[Penguin]

Freedom of movement would be guaranteed if one is documented European citizen OR resident alien (documented); but for those who are undocumented, they should be denied freedom of entry into the Eurozone.

That's already what the Schengen Convention (1990) says, so that's policy already. Schengen is now a core part of EU law and all EU member states without an opt-out which have not already joined the Schengen Area are legally obliged to do so when technical requirements have been met. Several non-EU countries are also included in the area..
Schengen Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Aepsilons]

That's already what the Schengen Convention (1990) says, so that's policy already. Schengen is now a core part of EU law and all EU member states without an opt-out which have not already joined the Schengen Area are legally obliged to do so when technical requirements have been met. Several non-EU countries are also included in the area..
Schengen Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well then since the theoretical framework is covered, then rigorous application of said legal framework is needed.

 

[Aepsilons]

I'm a humanitarian person myself and i'd be all up for receiving them,but,you see,many of them have "short fuzes",hate us,and tend to "blow up " eventually.

Hence the necessity of selectivity. Second, it is just fiscally unsustainable to bring in 2-3 million refugees into Europe and to "spread" them throughout the Eurozone. The burden of hosting them on host nations is all too real, many of which have their own economic and social issues to deal with even now.

I believe one of the main weakness of Western Europeans is the fact that they are too liberal, too humanitarian. To the point that factor(s) will take advantage of that graciousness...case in point the Paris terror attack. The vermin take advantage. The vermin are ungrateful.