The Battle of Paracel Islands

[LacViet]

This is cultural exchange project. The map shows China and Germany had more or less communication in that period, or German's understanding of China at the time. It's not China's official territory, can you understand the difference of the two things?

only Chinese don't understand the message. It is very clear. China didn't have the island in south Sea.

The 1988 Naval battle advantage is on Chinese side. So logically China should win.

when oversea Hua Chinese are cheerleaders for expansion policy of China, going to the day in near future, Malaysia people have to take back Singapore land.

and Hua Chinese have to turn back to China to support aggressive CPC.

 

[Place Of Space]

In that map, Vietnam belonged to France, okay? Why you never consider carefully your own situation and make rational posts? These posts don't benefits Vietnam at all.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

only Chinese don't understand the message. It is very clear. China didn't have the island in south Sea.



when oversea Hua Chinese are cheerleaders for expansion policy of China, going to the day in near future, Malaysia people have to take back Singapore land.

and Hua Chinese have to turn back to China to support aggressive CPC.

Not just Chinese, the Japanese say Paracel do not belongs to Vietnam and it belongs to China. Japan foreign affairs ministry cheer for China.

See below.

Beijing's Power and China's Borders: Twenty Neighbors in Asia - Bruce Elleman, Stephen Kotkin, Clive Schofield - Google Books
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[NiceGuy]

Not just Chinese, the Japanese say Paracel do not belongs to Vietnam and it belongs to China. Japan foreign affairs ministry cheer for China.

See below.

Beijing's Power and China's Borders: Twenty Neighbors in Asia - Bruce Elleman, Stephen Kotkin, Clive Schofield - Google Books
.

At least JP dont say like this now

 

[LacViet]

Not just Chinese, the Japanese say Paracel do not belongs to Vietnam and it belongs to China. Japan foreign affairs ministry cheer for China.

See below.

Beijing's Power and China's Borders: Twenty Neighbors in Asia - Bruce Elleman, Stephen Kotkin, Clive Schofield - Google Books
.

Japan ruled china in WW II, they said that so Japan could have a reason and invaded in to Islands of Viet in 1939.

In that map, Vietnam belonged to France, okay? Why you never consider carefully your own situation and make rational posts? These posts don't benefits Vietnam at all.

Map of Vietnam from 1836. Paracel and Spratly is part of territory Vietnam. It is not related to France colonial time.

 

[70U63]

No point keep arguing that who own Islands.
Whoever control the Island now, have the capability to protect it (soft and hard power) is the owner until the bigger power come and take it from them.

 

[BuddhaPalm]

Right there we acquired a taste for spanking Viets until they howl in pain. That is why we spanked them again in 1979, 1984 and 1988. Today we only break their bones with water cannon. Wait for the day Viets asks for another proper spanking.

 

[Place Of Space]

Japan ruled china in WW II, they said that so Japan could have a reason and invaded in to Islands of Viet in 1939.



Map of Vietnam from 1836. Paracel and Spratly is part of territory Vietnam. It is not related to France colonial time.

Vietnam history book brainwash you Japan ruled China in WWII, right? You are very pitiful, really.

Those islands are coastline islands in the map. You guys enlarge the concept to Paracel and Spratly islands.

 

[LacViet]

Right there we acquired a taste for spanking Viets until they howl in pain. That is why we spanked them again in 1979, 1984 and 1988. Today we only break their bones with water cannon. Wait for the day Viets asks for another proper spanking.

China with Deng, has kneed before Japan and US in 1978, 1979. It is shameful for China. Japan spanked you in WW II and US spanked you in 1950-1953 in advance for us. China is big boy, but bad boy.

Vietnam history book brainwash you Japan ruled China in WWII, right? You are very pitiful, really.

Those islands are coastline islands in the map. You guys enlarge the concept to Paracel and Spratly islands.

Look at the map in WW II, where is territory of China under control of Japan army ? Without intervention of Soviet Red army and two nuke dropped in Japan of USA, Chinese can speak Japanese fluently, bcz it is your futonghua now.

The map of Vietnam in 1836 has drawn islands Paracel and Spratly coloser to our coastline, it is to demonstrate that Hoàng Sa (Paracel) and Trường Sa (Spratly) is part of territory of Great Nam Empire (Vietnam today).

 

[DaiViet]

Those soldiers were trained by US, so it will be the lesson for Singapore when its soldiers r also got US training. U guys will run for for lives when seeing enemy warships

Equip someone with superior weapon does not make him a warrior. A superior warrior must have the will to fight, determination and proper training. U.S never learn Vietnam war lesson, look at Iraqi soldiers as example, train by U.S, well equipped And still sucks, ineffective against IS?

South or north vietnam navy equally lousy.

Johnson South Reef Skirmish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All loses naval battle to PLAN

See this passage different betwen battle islands from above.

Vietnamese soldiers, most of them unarmed, formed a circle on the reef to protect the Vietnamese flag. The Chinese attacked, and the Vietnamese soldiers resisted as best they could.[8] A skirmish ensued in which the Chinese shot and bayoneted dead some Vietnamese soldiers, but they were unable to capture the flag.[8] The Chinese finally retreated enabling PLA-N frigates to open fire on the reef's defenders. When all of the Vietnamese had been killed or wounded, the Chinese occupied the reef and began building a bunker. Vietnam reported that 64 Vietnamese soldiers had been killed in the battle.[7][9]

 

[tranquilium]

You ignore the background, Taiwan KMT allowed PLAN East Sea Fleet to go through the strait, we had 3 missile frigates on the way to battlefield.

That's a myth and has been long debunked. Taiwan strait is 130 km at its narrowest point and 220km at the widest. Ships travel through it quite often. At no point Taiwan is actually in complete control of the strait since even early days PRC has land artillery that can cover a significant portion of the water. Battle of Parcel island occurred at 1974. At that time, PLA air force is also sufficiently strong that mainland has full control of the air space around the area.

While it is nice to think that both CCP and KMT work together for common good for the Chinese civilization, the reality is that the military security of a nation must never be dependent on outside entities. There is no way PRC would let Taiwan control vital passage such as Taiwan strait.

 

[21stCentury]

China with Deng, has kneed before Japan and US in 1978, 1979. It is shameful for China. Japan spanked you in WW II and US spanked you in 1950-1953 in advance for us. China is big boy, but bad boy.



Look at the map in WW II, where is territory of China under control of Japan army ? Without intervention of Soviet Red army and two nuke dropped in Japan of USA, Chinese can speak Japanese fluently, bcz it is your futonghua now.

The map of Vietnam in 1836 has drawn islands Paracel and Spratly coloser to our coastline, it is to demonstrate that Hoàng Sa (Paracel) and Trường Sa (Spratly) is part of territory of Great Nam Empire (Vietnam today).

Great Nam Empire? Vietnam's golden age was under Chinese domination. I wasn't aware that there are Vietnamese as delusional as some Koreans believing they are the descendants of some magnificent empire that had any significant influence, but you just confirmed it.

 

[sword1947]

Modi will help our Vietnamese friends. Yoga is our biggest weapon to conquer Cina.

it does not matter, with help from the US, viet still losed. so you can try your best to help.

 

[NiceGuy]

Great Nam Empire? Vietnam's golden age was under Chinese domination. I wasn't aware that there are Vietnamese as delusional as some Koreans believing they are the descendants of some magnificent empire that had any significant influence, but you just confirmed it.

Vietnam's golden age was the time Han-Chinese were conquered and massacred by Mongol-Manchus.

And what does China mean ?? its just mean a Kingdom in the center, so any barbarian can call their empire as CN (middle Kingdom) when they successfully occupy China.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Great Nam Empire? Vietnam's golden age was under Chinese domination. I wasn't aware that there are Vietnamese as delusional as some Koreans believing they are the descendants of some magnificent empire that had any significant influence, but you just confirmed it.

Actually Vietnam is better on their own.

China has no wish to expand South ward. But an independent Vietnam quickly move out of Song Hong delta and go all the way to Mekong Delta, an impossible feat if she is under China.

Vietnam is instrumental in the spread of East Asian culture to the South.

Her expansion is the expansion on East Asian civilization.