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Michael Weiss
June 21, 2013

The Awakening Sunni Giant

Saudi Arabia is dead-serious about ending the Assad regime

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Saudi and Gulf leaders meet in Riyadh in March to discuss the deteriorating situation in Syria. (Image via AFP)

Last Friday, King Abdullah cut short his summer vacation in Morocco and flew back to Riyadh not only to meet with his national security advisors but to coordinate a new strategy for winning the war in Syria, one that encompasses a unified regional bloc of Sunni-majority powers now ranged against Iran, Hezbollah, and the Assad regime. The Wahhabi kingdom has exhausted its patience with miscarried attempts to resolve the Syria crisis through diplomacy and it will not wait to see the coming battle in Aleppo play out before assuming control of the Syrian rebellion. State-backed regional efforts to bolster moderate Free Syrian Army elements will thus be joined with the fetid call to jihad emanating from clerical quarters in Cairo, Doha, Mecca, and beyond. The mullahs have only themselves to blame. “Nasrallah f-cked up,” one well-connected Syrian source told me recently. “He awakened the Sunni giant. The Saudis took Hezbollah’s invasion of Qusayr personally.”

Although long in coming, and evidenced in the recent contretemps between Hamas and Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria, this grand realignment has been unmistakably solidified in the last week. A day after the Saudi king returned to Riyadh, Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi severed all diplomatic ties with Damascus and called for a no-fly zone in Syria, leaving no mystery as to reason behind this decision. “Hezbollah must leave Syria – these are serious words,” the Islamist president said. “There is no space or place for Hezbollah in Syria.”

Then, on Monday, June 17, it was Jordanian King Abdullah’s turn to strike a minatory, albeit more nationalistic, note. Ostensibly addressing cadets at a graduation ceremony at Mutah Military Academy, the Hashemite monarch was in fact speaking to Barack Obama and Bashar al-Assad: “If the world does not mobilize or help us in the issue [of Syria] as it should, or if this matter forms a danger to our country, we are able at any moment to take measures that will protect our land and the interests of our people.”

Unlike Morsi, who doesn’t have half a million Syrian refugees to contend with, Abdullah’s deterrent capability is not confined to persona non grata diktats and rhetorical posturing. Operation Eager Lion, the 12-day military exercise featuring the United States and 19 Arab and European countries, is currently underway in Jordan. Around 8,000 personnel – including commandos from Lebanon and Iraq who will no doubt be fighting some of their compatriots in any deployment into Syria – are given lessons on border security, refugee management, counterinsurgency, and counterterrorism warfare. Patriot missile batteries and anywhere between 12 and 24 American F-16 fighter jets were left in Jordan as a multilateral insurance policy against Syrian, Iranian, or Hezbollah provocations. This royal Abdullah is more in sync than ever with his namesake to the south.

If further proof were needed of Riyadh’s newfound earnestness about ending Assad’s reign, look no further than a recent column by Jamal Khashoggi, a journalist seen as quite close to Prince Turki al-Faisal, the former director general of Saudi intelligence who himself has described Hezbollah and Iraq’s Shiite Abu Fadhl al-Abbas Brigade in Syria as Iran’s “steel claws.” On June 15, Khashoggi published “The expanding Shiite Crescent” in al-Hayat. The piece can only be described as something between a Sunni cri de coeur and a Sunni fever-dream. Khashoggi begins by warning of creeping Iranian hegemony in the Levant, which is of course driven as much by energy and commercial interest as it is by ideology. Allow Assad victory and here’s what will happen, according to Khashoggi:

“The Iranian Oil Ministry will pull out old maps from its drawers to build the pipeline to pump Iranian oil and gas from Abadan (across Iraq) to Tartus. The Iranian Ministry of Roads and Transportation will dust off the national railways authority’s blueprints for a new branch line from Tehran to Damascus, and possibly Beirut. Why not? The wind is blowing in their favor and I am not making a mountain out of a molehill.”

As against Hafez’s careful balancing of Sunni and Shiite interests, Khashoggi concludes, the dangerous Bashar has submitted completely to Iran and their Lebanese proxy. “Consequently, Saudi Arabia must do something now, albeit alone. The kingdom’s security is at stake. It will be good if the United States joined an alliance led by Saudi Arabia to bring down Assad and return Syria to the Arab fold. But this should not be a precondition to proceed. Let Saudi Arabia head those on board.” [Italics added.]

According to Elizabeth O’Bagy, the policy director at the Syrian Emergency Task Force and a senior research analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, the Saudis had a closed-door meeting with Gen. Salim Idris, the head of the Free Syrian Army’s Supreme Military Command, a few days ago, at which they offered to do “whatever it takes” to help Idris defeat Assad and his growing army of Shiite-Alawi sectarian militias. Though, this being a Saudi promise, “whatever it takes” can still be defined relatively: the discussion was limited to weapons, more resources and logistical support, O’Bagy said, though some of the hardware has already begun to materialize.

One unnamed Gulf source cited by Reuters has claimed that the Saudis have begun running shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles (MANPADs) into Syria. Furthermore, at least 50 “Konkurs,” Russian-made, wire-guided anti-tank missiles, have also turned up in Aleppo in the last week, as confirmed by the Daily Telegraph’s Mideast correspondent Richard Spencer (Konkurs are especially useful in destroying T-72 tanks, the most recent Soviet-era model that the Syrian Army uses.)

More intriguing still is the Western power evidently facilitating this campaign – France. Israeli Army Radio reported this week that French intelligence officials are working with their Saudi counterparts to train up rebels on tactics and weaponry, in concert with the Turkish Defense Ministry (no doubt because Turkish supply-lines to Aleppo are now even more crucial.) Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal and mukhabarat head Prince Bandar bin Sultan (also the former Saudi ambassador to the United States and King Abdullah’s national security advisor), have traveled to Paris in urgent fits of shuttle diplomacy of late.

“The French have been really, really pro-active in pushing for greater action,” O’Bagy told me. “They have a lot of really active people on the ground.” The same Gulf source who told Reuters about anti-aircraft missiles bound for Syria also said they were “obtained from suppliers in France and Belgium, and France had paid to ship them to the region.” The Hollande government maintains that it hasn’t decided whether or not to arm the rebels yet, but here it should be noted, as O’Bagy has elsewhere, that the U.S. was gun-running before it ambiguously announced last week that it would (maybe) begin doing so.

Indeed, the Saudi-French concord provides some much needed context for the Obama administration’s adherence to the status quo ante. This has been amusingly characterized by some commentators in near apocalyptic language. The White House is still only interested in guiding a process absent direct involvement in it. Everyone from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Martin Dempsey to the president has loudly rejected the prospect of air strikes or a no-fly zone. (These “realists” fail to realize that the surest way to limit argument to arm the FSA is to destroy the regime’s own Iranian and Russian resupply capability – ah, but that would require dropping bombs and we can’t have that, can we?)

Having thus determined that the Syria crisis was not in the U.S. “national interest,” the administration conveniently forgot about the national interests of its allies, all of whom lament the geopolitical vacuum left by a vanishing American presence and greatly fear the elements now rushing in to fill it. So instead, Washington palavers with Moscow about “Geneva II”, a conference set to resemble the last half hour of Rocky IV, as the war proceeds uninterrupted on the ground. Witness the buildup of Syrian Army soldiers and militants from Hezbollah and the Iranian-sponsored Popular Committees and the National Defense Forces in the Aleppo towns of Nubul and Zahra’a. Between 3,000 and 4,000 Hezbollah fighters, abetted by IRGC agents, are amassed in the province ready to try a repeat of their last victory in Qusayr.

Congratulations are in order. The United States has just earned a court-side seat to exactly the kind of transnational Sunni-Shiite confrontation it wished to avoid.
 
Oh, I forget about the giant who failed to use the momentum in Syria to oust Assad for more than 2 years, or the giant who begs for US political support vis-a-vis Syria and Iran, needs Croatian military support in order to supply rebels and Turkey's organizational support in order to unite/form these rebel terrorist groups. KSA is far from being a Sunni giant.
 
Plz don't ruin this thread with your cheap input.

Compare it with a real giant:

Iran doesn't need outsiders (Americans in Jordan) to train rebel groups, just because they can't do it themselves. Iran has its Revolutionary Guards for this task. Iran doesn't need foreign military support in order to supply its proxies elsewhere, unlike KSA who has turned to Croatia and other states to secure this. Iran doesn't need US approval to step in when it thinks its interests are threatened. Iran, unlike KSA, doesn't just pour weapons into a area in order to increase its influence. Iran actually trains, forms, guide and orders its associates in a professional way. Iran doesn't need an alliance of various countries to realize its objectives in the region, unlike KSA, who needed Turkey, Egypt, Jordan and France to step up against Iran.

Like I said; KSA is far form being a giant.
 
Why Iran is spreading and Saudi Arabia is shrinking


By ABDULRAHMAN AL-RASHED


We must commend Iran’s ability in keeping the world busy, fabricating battles in Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Eretria, Somalia, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, South Eastern Asian and Central African countries while supporting its groups even in the West.

Iran seems like a superpower that inserts its hand in every corner of the world. The obvious question is: How does Iran possess all these funds and capabilities? And why don’t we see a spread similar to Iran and its effectiveness by richer countries, like Saudi Arabia?

Iran’s spending


Iran definitely has the desire and enthusiasm to spend and squander its money on setting up fires across the globe, and it is good at practicing this type of activity
Abdulrahman al-Rashed
Iran definitely has the desire and enthusiasm to spend and squander its money on setting up fires across the globe, and it is good at practicing this type of activity. It must be better than Saudi Arabia in the value of every dollar it spends to achieve this aim.

As Iran has become financially broke due to sanctions and military spending, Saudi Arabia has around 700 billion dollars of reserves at banks. At a time when Iran wastes its funds on its armed groups in Iraq, Hezbollah brigades in Lebanon and others, Saudi spends huge sums of money on around 150,000 students studying at western universities!

On the industrial level, Saudi Arabia owns a wide industry base built on its petroleum products while the Iranian government spends its funds on developing and manufacturing arms.

Celebrating achievements

Two weeks ago, Tehran said it sent a monkey to space as part of its progressive scientific experiments, and the story transformed into a joke. No one has believed it yet. The day before last, it announced that it had built a Stealth aircraft (called the ghost in Arabic) that represents the utmost degree of scientific progress in military aviation as radars cannot detect it while flying.

Tehran has previously celebrated building and inaugurating naval submarines that compete with similar American ones. For years, Iran has announced developing a system of missiles. Critics, on the other hand, have insisted that these missiles were only similar to Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein’s missiles – Russian ones with Arabic or Islamic names and are amended by decreasing their load of explosive material so they cross longer distances.


Citizens pay the cost

What does Iran aim to say by its massive military spending and promotional ads of its scientific achievements? Perhaps it aims to say that it will win the next war? Or that it has become a superpower that deserves a seat at the U.N. Security Council? Or that it is a country capable of challenging an international boycott? Or is it merely local publicity to soothe the Iranian citizen who pays for militarization and foreign adventures in order to pacify the ego of President Ahmedinejad, the revolutionary guards and the supreme leader.

Inflation has eaten up the savings of citizens who now live on government aid to buy bread and fuel. It is a similar promotion to what North Korea feeds its hungry people as it speaks of international conspiracies and military accomplishments. At the time of Mao Tse-tung, China also distracted the Chinese people with this talk.

It seems that Iran chooses the dates of announcing its achievements before international meetings that address Iranian affairs such as the nuclear program and the economic sanctions.

Even those who say that military findings regarding deals of Western weapons are gut-wrenching, it is in fact, on the level of spending, less than what Iran puts on military projects and foreign adventures doomed to fail.
At last, if it weren’t for Iran and its aggressive policy, the Americans may have not had an excuse to fill the Gulf with battleships and the land with military bases. Iran is the justification for defensive weapons’ deals and the tension dominating our region since 1980.
 
Two weeks ago, Tehran said it sent a monkey to space as part of its progressive scientific experiments, and the story transformed into a joke. No one has believed it yet. The day before last, it announced that it had built a Stealth aircraft (called the ghost in Arabic) that represents the utmost degree of scientific progress in military aviation as radars cannot detect it while flying.

:rofl: :omghaha:
:lol: :D
 
The whole country lives on propaganda.

And I quote

According to Iranian government sources, the F-313 Qaher was designed and is indigenously produced in Iran by the Aviation Industries Organization (AIO), a division of the Ministry of Defense, and IRIAF. The project manager is Hassan Parvaneh.[2][3]

The aircraft design is a canard configuration. It is described as a stealth fighter built with advanced materials, a very low radar signature[4] and with low-altitude operations capability.[5] It was also claimed that the Qaher can take off and land on short runways and has "easy maintenance".[6] Qaher has a payload capacity of carrying two 2000 pound bombs, or greater number of smaller smart guided missiles, or at least 6 air-to-air missiles in the category of the PL-12.[7]

It features a downward wingtip device which Flightglobal.com noted vaguely resembles the Boeing Bird of Prey prototype, but with a more faceted design similar to the 1970s-era Lockheed Have Blue that was developed into the now retired F-117 Nighthawk. Flight Global also said, "given the apparent small size of the aircraft and its single engine design, the Qaher 313 could be powered by reverse engineered variants of the General Electric J85 turbojet that Iran is known to have in its possession."[3] Iran has General Electric J85s as well as a dozen other jet engines as a result of old Northrop F-5s and other American aircraft in its inventory from pre-1979 as well as newer engines from Russia and China. Iran also builds various turbo fan engines like the Toloue-4 and Toloue-5 for its UAVs.[8] Iran claims they have designed the aircraft using CATIA three-dimensional interactive design software and tested it using simulation software including Gambit numerical grid generation software, fluent flow analysis and simulation software, CFD models[7] and that they have additionally tested the aerodynamics using small sized jet and propeller flying models.[9]

Two days after the unveiling ceremony, Mehr News Agency published the top ten features of the fighter jet project.[10][11]

The aircraft was reportedly designed with extra stability and so does not need a fly-by-wire (FBW) system.[12]

A prototype version of the Qaher-313 was portrayed to have test-flown at some point before the presentation.[13] According to the head of the design team, two sub-sized models have been created and tested. One of the models uses a propeller engine while the other uses a small micro jet engine.[9] The models were shown in a video clip (along with descriptions by the head of the design team) the same day.[14] According to Haaretz, the "blurry video published by the Iranians purporting to show the Qaher 313 in flight seems to show not a manned fighter jet but a small radio-operated drone "[15] which agrees with what the designers said about the videos at the Qaher-313 introduction ceremony.

On 10 February 2013, the Iranian Minister of Defense said the claims made by the foreign media about the project are inaccurate and that the engine used by the design had been successfully tested. He also confirmed that the aircraft had not yet been flown, but that taxi and flight tests will occur in the near future.[16]

Doubts of viability of aircraft

There has been no independent verification of the status of development of this aircraft, and some commentators have even claimed that the aircraft is a hoax, or a "laughable fake".[17] Media sources outside of Iran have raised the possibility that the demonstrated aircraft would not be able to meet stated performance and/or that it may be a scale prototype or mockup,[18][15][19][20] with Cyrus Amini, a BBC News Persian Service journalist[21] claiming that the aircraft "looks like a cheap copy of the American F22".[4] Iran does not release technical details on its arsenals, so many of its claims about the aircraft are impossible to verify.[22]

According to Flight Global, unnamed Israeli experts say the "indigenous fighter jet" Iran presented on 2 February is nothing more than a "very sleek plastic model". Further, the canopy appears to be constructed of "basic plastic," the air intakes are unusually small, and "The whole impression is of some plastic parts pasted to an old flying platform." One expert says the cockpit and ejection seat seem real, but the Qaher-313 displayed seemed too small to be a capable fighter. A photo of the cockpit shows a simple glass cockpit design using civilian avionics from Dynon Avionics and Garmin which are normally found on much less sophisticated general aviation aircraft. The markings on the backup airspeed indicator in this photo seem unrealistic, suggesting a stall speed in landing configuration of merely 70 knots and a never exceed speed of about 260 knots; values more likely to be found on a small turboprop aircraft.[23] Video footage showing the plane airborne could have been a radio-controlled model aircraft. Poor-quality footage posted on the internet provided no sense of scale for the platform being flown, and also failed to show its take-off or landing. Its stealth factors are also claimed to be into question, having no visible weapons carrying capability, either internally or externally.[24][25] Iran has stated that the videos are of small radio controlled jet and propeller models and not the full size airplane. Furthermore the animation provided by the designers shows two internal weapons bay under the wings.[9]

The Times of Israel labelled the aircraft "a hoax". Israeli aeronautics expert Tal Inbar claimed, "It’s not a plane, because that’s not how a real plane looks. Iran doesn’t have the ability to build planes. Plain and simple." Iran claims that it has produced and deployed a squadron of Northrop F-5-based HESA Saeqeh fighters[26] as well as several other training and civil planes. Military aviation journalist David Cenciotti[27] stated that the aircraft has "implausible aerodynamics and Hollywood sheen", claimed that it is too small to be a real fighter jet and that the cockpit was too simple and was "similar to those equipping small private planes".[25]

One Israeli aerospace engineer speaking anonymously to The Times of Israel indicated that while the aircraft displayed was obviously not a flying example, it did show advanced stealth features and that the design could be capable of high maneuverability. He stated that while the aircraft lacked bomb-carrying provisions it could be an effective interceptor. He concluded, Iran needs "a defensive interceptor that gives them the element of surprise, and it is big enough to carry real air-to-air missiles."[25]

The moral lesson to the mullahs' regime has got to be " Honesty is the best policy "
 
michael--weiss
Michael Weiss
June 21, 2013

The Awakening Sunni Giant

Saudi Arabia is dead-serious about ending the Assad regime.




While I loath the sectarian push by these turds also known as Atyatullahs of Iran,

I must say I equally abhor the subject line of this thread, and the tone of OP.


What the f^^ck is wrong with you all.


Can't you see the human beings for what they are?

And not this mofo view like Sunni $hit vs. Shia $hit?


It is 21st century man.


And so many of you as "individuals" are stuck in the stone age mentality.

Pathetic.

Pathetic.



Here millions of Syrians are in deep doodoo,

And all you guys can talk about Sunni-Shia forking topic.


So sad to see this.

terrible terrible waste of intellect.
 
i would have been happy if the Sunni giants have peaceful and democratic purpose
and if the FSA was pro peace and pro Sunni giants ok i would understand

but better to have Assad then this FSA
look at libya they badly need money hahaha after so called liberation
Iraq still same bombing and killing as also for Libya
 
in tamil sunni means male private part starting with P ending with s with eni inbetween.
thats why in tamil when they want to mention Sunni for muslims they pronounce it as "Sunny".

So as a tamil, I find the phrase awakening Sunni giant makes me lol
 
First make your mind....Sunni Giant or Wahabi/Salafi/Takfiri giant.........lolzz.....sunni has hardly any interest in this war.US and EU already lost its interest ...now Saudi has to push more men power and money in this war...transporting men from all around the world......what a mess....waste of time....waste of money...best solution, sit togather , be sensible, respect each other opinion...All foreign forces withdraw from Syria...Hazbullah and all imported fighters leave Syria. Let the Syrian people decide their fate.....
 
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