Tesla Zooms Past BMW, Audi Limos In Europe, Closes In On Mercedes

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I have only seen once a Tesla car in German … and that was on a Tesla promo show last year.

 

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LOL 1091 cars for the whole year.

 

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Because it was launched recently and is less than like a year or two old. Doesn't have a history of anything. All others listed, had DECADES to fix and mature their platforms, still no one, gets even a 90% score

Watch how Tesla will improve as customers provide feedback into its systems. The engine is near perfection with electric motor, so that won't be a big deal. The rest of the issues will be related to electronics and primarily software updates, no big deal.

lol...already battery memory reports coming in......replacing a pack costs 44.000$. Good job, Tesla! It's 'cuz Tesla uses cheap shyte Li-ion bateries from laptops and not the more advanced systems everyone else does.

How much will Tesla Model S battery life decrease over time? - CSMonitor.com

You're just a fanboy, once government subsidies go away, we shall see how much Tesla really is worth.

Some gold from Tesla owners:

I'm also having problems with my 85 battery. I used to wake up to 235 "rated" miles. A year later and 15,000 miles, it's 217 "rated" miles. When I called to ask I was told someone would call me back to address my concerns. I never got a call back. Meantime my drivers side door handle failed to present so I called service to have this fixed. I told them about my battery issue and was told someone would get back to me again. I noticed on the service order they sent that it said they had checked the logs and there was nothing wrong with my battery. Still no call. I guess I'm not going to get a call. I probably wouldn't mind if my battery lost a little over 7% of its charging capacity per year, but at this rate in 5 years my "rated" miles will be less than 150 miles. That alone does not work for me. Never mind that I never get anywhere near the "rated" range. I believe Tesla has a real problem. Sweeping owners concerns under the carpet is not a wise strategy for the company.
Make no mistake, I love the car and want Tesla to succeed. But this is not a good business plan.

Poor Battery Life on 85w Tesla Model S | Forums | Tesla Motors

Note that some of the advices in this thread are around the use of "coasting" to save range. Coasting in 100k€ car. Legit.

 

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Tesla Zooms Past BMW, Audi Limos In Europe, Closes In On Mercedes

Tesla’s all electric Model S has overtaken established and conventionally powered luxury car market leaders like the BMW 7 series and Audi A8 in their own European backyards, and is threatening the long-established market leader, the Mercedes S class.

That’s the view of pan-European newsletter Automotive Industry Data (AID), quoting its exclusive statistics.

In the first nine months of 2015, Tesla Model S sales of 10,600 in Western Europe exceeded the outgoing BMW 7 Series with 2,650 and the soon to be replaced Audi A8 limousine with 4,700. The Model S was only 800 sales short of the Mercedes S class, compared with a shortfall of 6,200 in the same period last year, AID said.

The fact the great majority of BMW 7s, Mercedes S and Audi A8s are diesel powered is likely to be another factor in Tesla’s favor at least in the near future.

In the past Tesla has done amazingly well in socialist, energy-rich Norway, where the tax on internal combustion engine cars can approach 100 per cent, while electric ones go tax free. But now Tesla’s success has grown across the board with sales of over a 1,000 in the Netherlands, Switzerland and Germany, followed by sales of between 500 and 850 in markets like Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden and Denmark. Switzerland and Germany don’t subsidize electric cars.

“Given the rise and rise of Tesla sales in these and other European markets, there are high expectations for Tesla’s forthcoming all-new Model X SUV , albeit some sales will no doubt come at the expense of its conventionally dressed Model S brother,” said AID editor Peter Schmidt.

At the Frankfurt Car Show last month, Audi unveiled a Tesla competitor, the all-electric Q6 e-tron SUV, but this won’t appear on the market until 2018. Last week troubled VW said its new flagship Phaeton sedan will be all-electric, but this won’t show until 2019. Meanwhile most of the German alternative engine competition has concentrated on plug-in hybrids, which are very expensive, not very popular, and likely to fall foul of German environmentalists who claim most of the time these vehicles will be using conventional carbon fuel, not electricity.

unfortunatly you are comparing apples with oranges.

BMW 7, Mercedes S class and Audi A8 are High class luxury vehicles. They can easily achieve sales Price with full equiped Versions of 200.000 Euros.

Tesla crap is a middle class car which only can achieve a sales Price of max. 100.000 euros. Tesla is in the same category as BMW 5, Mercedes E-class or Audi A6.

And all of These lower german car classes are selling over +50.000 per year.

Tesla is a crapy car. Elon Musk is not happy with the current Situation of tesla brand.

 

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unfortunatly you are comparing apples with oranges.

Yes of course! The Mercedes S class is outselling Ferrari...so what does that mean?

 

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Yes of course! The Mercedes S class is outselling Ferrari...so what does that mean?

That means you are stupid fanboy and have no clue about anything. Ferrari is a Sports car manufacturer selling with limited edition and not a mass market Limousine maker like Mercedes.

 

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That means you are stupid fanboy and have no clue about anything. Ferrari is a Sports car manufacturer selling with limited edition and not a mass market Limousine maker like Mercedes.

Tesla is a new car maker making electric cars not a mass market Limousine maker like Mercedes.

 

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Tesla is a new car maker making electric cars not a mass market Limousine maker like Mercedes.

Tesla is just a stupid start up which does not make technological sense. They use cheap batteries and not high quality car batteries like the german car makers.

 

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Tesla is just a stupid start up which does not make technological sense. They use cheap batteries and not high quality car batteries like the german car makers.

then you have test drived a tesla