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Tata Motors, Goldstone bag tender for 480 Electric Buses: Get ready for a silent and green ride

In order to be able to compete on the same level as BYD(electric/conventional auto maker, also China's No.2 lithium-ion battery manufacturer), Tata will have to look to one of the Chinese suppliers for battery cells, modules, PACK, BMS, and the lot.

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CATL manufacturing complex in Ningde, Fujian Province, China

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Seriously.

Remove the back cover of your handheld devices and see for yourself where the batteries are from

And batteries driving EVs are an entirely different story.

China has one of the largest Lithium reserves ,

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So its like Saudia Arabia boasting about being a Leading Oil producing Nation :lol:

As for India,

I am pretty sure that Tata electric buses are run by Indian manufactured batteries.
 
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I can't help wondering what make of lithium-ion batteries Tata Motors will use for its e-buses. :lol::D

Japanese? Chinese? Since a big chunk of Japanese batteries are made with Chinese lithium salts(lithium carbonate, lithium hydroxide etc) and battery materials(cathodes, anodes, electrolytes and separators etc), who cares. ;)

Tata Motors, Goldstone bag tender for 480 Electric Buses: Get ready for a silent and green ride

Tata Motors Commercial Vehicles and Warren Buffet backed BYD Electric Vehicles, 9 out of 10 of the first round electric public transport tenders have already been spoken for leaving local players like Mahindra and Mahindra, Eicher Motors and JBM Solaris empty handed and slightly red-faced if not anything else. With competitors even terming Tata’s bids as unviable, with other bidders claiming that the two quoted almost 30% lower than the market price.


By: Dipayan Dutta | Published: March 22, 2018 1:14 PM

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Between Tata Motors Commercial Vehicles and Warren Buffet backed BYD Electric Vehicles, 9 out of 10 of the first round electric public transport tenders have already been spoken for leaving local players like Mahindra and Mahindra, Eicher Motors and JBM Solaris empty handed and slightly red-faced if not anything else. With competitors even terming Tata’s bids as unviable, with other bidders claiming that the two quoted almost 30% lower than the market price. Although those who went home with tender rights seemed to be more than happy with the price on offer.

BYD for those who are wondering are in the country as part of a JV with Goldstone Infratech, and for those of you who are just hearing the name BYD. It is ia chinese EV supplier that is one of the few being backed by Warren Buffet and has been touted as China’s answer to Tesla. The new company in on JV has bagged contracts for Bengaluru, Mumbai and Hyderabad to supply 290 electric buses.

Meanwhile Tata Motors, took the remaining tenders by storm seizing the rights Jaipur, Indore, Lucknow, Kolkata, Jammu and Guwahati — to supply 190 e-buses. Ashok Leyland bagged a paltry contract for 40 e-buses in Ahmedabad. The 10 cities called tenders in the last two months in a pilot programme partly.

However, the contract with the most gravitas is New Delhi with an order for more than 700 electric buses on offer. However, the winners of this tender will be announced shortly. Now this smorgasbord of orders coming out of states for electric buses and public vehicles comes as part of the Faster Adoption and Manufacturing of (Hybrid &) Electric Vehicles in India (FAME India) scheme, which provides 60% subsidy to cities to procure e-vehicles either as outright purchase or on supply-operate basis.

Tata Motors probably have played averages in their bid with the lowest bid going to West Bengal at Rs 77 lakh per bus for a 40-bus outright purchase contract placed by West Bengal Transport Corp for Kolkata. Tata placed bids varying between Rs 77 lakh and Rs 99 lakh for different zones. “The price quoted by Tata Motors is an unviable number for many original equipment manufacturers (OEMs),” Reported the competition to ET.“The Rs 77 lakh bid was a desperate attempt from the company after they lost to Goldstone-BYD in Karnataka,:D” the person alleged , speaking on condition of anonymity.

http://www.financialexpress.com/aut...et-ready-for-a-silent-and-green-ride/1107338/
China has one of the largest Lithium reserves ,

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So its like Saudia Arabia boasting about being a Leading Oil producing Nation :lol:

As for India,

I am pretty sure that Tata electric buses are run by Indian manufactured batteries.
Goldstone-BYD Delivers 6 Electric Buses To Mumbai BEST For Public Transport

The e-Buzz K7 electric buses can run up to 200 km in a single charge
Highlights
  • The Goldstone electric buses will ply largely in South Mumbai
  • The Goldstone electric buses are use about 70% of Chinese components
  • If successful, BEST will procure more electric buses for Mumbai
 
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Goldstone-BYD Delivers 6 Electric Buses To Mumbai BEST For Public Transport

The e-Buzz K7 electric buses can run up to 200 km in a single charge
Highlights



    • The Goldstone electric buses will ply largely in South Mumbai
    • The Goldstone electric buses are use about 70% of Chinese components
    • If successful, BEST will procure more electric buses for Mumbai

I am pretty certain the quality will be Bad.

Mumbai already had a bad experience with "King long" buses that kept breaking down so often that the entire batch of 50 new buses was scrapped.

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/cover-story/articleshow/16233184.cms
 
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I am pretty certain the quality will be Bad.

Mumbai already had a bad experience with "King long" buses that kept breaking down so often that the entire batch of 50 new buses was scrapped.

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/cover-story/articleshow/16233184.cms
You can't believe the quality of the Indians. We all know that Indians have 400 million illiterates. How do they use technical products?

King long exports to the world, but only India complains. Why? How do you expect 400 million illiterates to use technical products?
 
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You can't believe the quality of the Indians. We all know that Indians have 400 million illiterates. How do they use technical products?

King long exports to the world, but only India complains. Why? How do you expect 400 million illiterates to use technical products?

LOL....... 400 million illiterates are not required to drive the bus :lol:

They are only required to ride it :lol:

Are these third rate buses made for literate people ? :cheesy:
 
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LOL....... 400 million illiterates are not required to drive the bus :lol:

They are only required to ride it :lol:

Are these third rate buses made for literate people ? :cheesy:
But 400 million illiterate countries talk about quality? Why not improve the Indian "quality" first?
 
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But 400 million illiterate countries talk about quality? Why not improve the Indian "quality" first?

LOL.... is that the new criteria set by your communist party ? :cheesy:

What are the necessary conditions that have to be met by chinese citizens before they can talk about quality ? :lol: .... do your communist govt. set these conditions ?
 
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LOL.... is that the new criteria set by your communist party ? :cheesy:

What are the necessary conditions that have to be met by chinese citizens before they can talk about quality ? :lol: .... do your communist govt. set these conditions ?
No, the standard is from the world.:rofl:

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No, the standard is from the world.:rofl:

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Is that what they teach you in communist schools ?

That the world has standards and criteria to be fulfilled before you can ask questions ? :cheesy:

I assure you, India is a free society and anyone can ask questions irrespective of his financial status, literacy level or age or sex or religion or race or creed.

I know its difficult for your to understand, but read slowly. You will get it.
 
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Is that what they teach you in communist schools ?

That the world has standards and criteria to be fulfilled before you can ask questions ? :cheesy:

I assure you, India is a free society and anyone can ask questions irrespective of his financial status, literacy level or age or sex or religion or race or creed.

I know its difficult for your to understand, but read slowly. You will get it.
Ah, I know you're hard to understand. The India standard is different from the world.

Look, this is the 400 million illiterate country - the India standard.
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This is the Kenya standard, the highest speed of 120km/1h.
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Of course, I don't expect 400 million India illiterates to know the world.:-)
 
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Ah, I know you're hard to understand. The India standard is different from the world.

Look, this is the 400 million illiterate country - the India standard.
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This is the Kenya standard, the highest speed of 120km/1h.
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Of course, I don't expect 400 million India illiterates to know the world.:-)

LOL.... how is any of that relevant ? :cheesy:

Also those pictures are 20 years old.
 
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LOL.... how is any of that relevant ? :cheesy:

Also those pictures are 20 years old.
LOL, India and 20 years ago, no difference. But Kenya is now more advanced than India, after all. Higher literacy rate.... This is the world standard. What? India media only tells you that India is a "superpower". don't tell you this?:lol:
 
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LOL, India and 20 years ago, no difference. But Kenya is now more advanced than India, after all. Higher literacy rate.... This is the world standard. What? India media only tells you that India is a "superpower". don't tell you this?:lol:

so ? :cheesy: You want me to give you a biscut ? :lol:

I understand that you want my appreciation really really bad, but how is your personal inferiority complex related to Orders for electric buses ?
 
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Ah, I know you're hard to understand. The India standard is different from the world.

Look, this is the 400 million illiterate country - the India standard.
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Of course, I don't expect 400 million India illiterates to know the world.:-)

Have you seen your literate High IQ standards?

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Here is your bed in Chinese train
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Chinese Luxury
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You can take the lower berth if you want

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Have on board bath like A380

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Don't forget to wash hands before food.

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Have you seen your literate High IQ standards?

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Here is your bed in Chinese train
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Chinese Luxury
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pillow

You can take the lower berth if you want

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Have on board bath like A380

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Don't forget to wash hands before food.

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HOLY $HIT :lol:

Super duper supa powwa china and its "literate population".

Found some more pics of chinese trains and their literate population :sick:

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Turns out , chinese are "so literate" than the swiss have separate trains for them :cheesy:

https://www.whatsonweibo.com/too-lo...roduces-separate-trains-for-chinese-tourists/

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Too Loud, Too Rude”:

Switzerland Introduces Separate Trains for Chinese Tourists Switzerland has introduced special coaches for Chinese tourists, as locals consider them to be ‘loud’ and ‘rude’.


The news has triggered mixed reactions amongst Weibo’s netizens.

Switzerland has introduced special coaches for Chinese tourists, as locals consider them to be ‘loud’ and ‘rude’. The news has triggered mixed reactions amongst Weibo’s netizens. According to China’s National Tourism Administration (中国国家旅游管理局), China now sends more tourists abroad than any other country in the world. The number of Chinese outbound tourists exceeded 100 million in 2014, spending $155 billion.

Although destination countries welcome the money spent by Chinese travelers, locals often can’t stand the chaos and hassle some Chinese tourists bring to their countries. They consider them to be loud, rude, pushy, and all over the place. “They’re loud and rude, and spit on the floor.” Such is the case in Switzerland, visited by one million Chinese tourists every year. Locals and Swiss tourists often feel harassed by the Chinese, Heute reports, especially on the famous Rigi Railways.

Chinese tourists are said to be “loud and rude”, and they “spit on the floor”. Their misbehavior has lead Rigi Railways to take special measures: since August there are extra trains for ‘Asian tourists’, and from September extra ones for ‘international guests’. There are also special signs on the toilet explaining tourists how (not) to use the toilet, according to Heute. Although Rigi Railways officially has opened extra train carriages for ‘Asian guests’, a local Swiss newspaper clearly stated they were especially meant for Chinese, its headline being: “Zu laut, zu frech – Schweiz führt Extra-Züge für Chinesen ein” (“Too Loud, Too Rude: Switzerland Introduces Extra Trains for Chinese Tourists”).

The newspaper also published one of the train’s illustrations that instruct tourists to sit on toilet seats rather than to squat on them. The railway company assumes that Chinese tourists often stand on the toilet, and don’t clean their footprints afterwards. “Some Chinese have bad manners, but we’re not all like that.” Once the news was posted on Sina Weibo on August 25th, it gained nearly 2000 comments in one day. The reactions were mixed. Many users consider it to be discrimination against Chinese tourists. User “Shiya” doubts Europeans can tell the differences between Asians: “They can’t distinguish the different Asians from different countries. Chinese, Japanese and Koreans probably look the same to them. Why are they so sure that the footprints are left by Chinese? The news says that the extra coaches are meant for Asians.

However, it tried to draw the public’s attention by emphasizing it is for Chinese in the title. This is discrimination.” User “Luoluo” follows: “I thought people from western countries advocate freedom and equality, and that they oppose to discrimination. But to me, this [the news] is pure and simple discrimination. I admit that some Chinese don’t really have good manners, but it doesn’t mean we are all like that. I’m fed up that we are blamed for all the uncivilized behavior by Asians. Of course we need to stand up against misbehaviour, but we can’t endure the discrimination.” “If you’re used to squatting, you just can’t poo by sitting on the toilet.” Some users try to explain the culture of squatting on the toilet in China.

Although ‘western-style’ toilets are popular in China’s bigger cities and airports, there are still lots of squatting toilets, especially in rural areas. Weibo user “JaneyPan” says that from a physiological standpoint, squatting is the best toilet position. “If you are used to squatting, you just can’t poo by sitting on the toilet. But I agree that we need to clean the footprints afterwards.” She then adds: “Maybe the Switzerland railway should consider building squatting toilets on the carriages meant for Chinese tourists.” “They think they can do anything they want because they have money.” A large number of netizens also self-reflect, saying it is high time to promote civilized behaviour amongst Chinese travelers, and restore the country’s image. User “Beer Happiness” comments: “Many Chinese now want to travel abroad to see the world as we are getting wealthy. Yet, a small amount of Chinese tourists with low quality have damaged our nation’s image. Most foreigners haven’t been to China. They know things about China through the news. That’s why they think all Chinese people are rude.”

The Switzerland railway issue is not the first case where Chinese tourists are treated differently. Earlier this year, Mainland Chinese tourists were temporarily banned from entering the Wat Rong Khun temple, one of the top tourist destinations in Chiang Rai, Thailand, because of inappropriate toilet usage. The temple was reopened to Chinese tourists on the condition that their tour guides would be held responsible for cleaning the toilets. As user “Xj” suggests: “The tour guide should give etiquette lessons to its clients, especially to the middle-aged tourists. They think can do anything they want because they have money. This is wrong.” The Chinese government has taken actions to stop the uncivilized behaviour of Chinese tourists abroad. The National Tourism Administration has started to track the actions of Chinese citizens abroad since last year April. Provincial and national authorities will be in touch with unruly citizens upon their return to China.

This measurement came into effect after a group of Chinese travelers scalded a flight attendant with hot water and threatened to blow up a plane from Bangkok to Nanjing. “The saddest thing when traveling abroad is to witness the bad behaviour of our people. They really harm China’s reputation,” says user “FPA”: “I understand the intention of these foreign countries who treat Chinese tourists differently. I mean, who wants to travel with Chinese tourists who are loud, rude and fight over small things?” In the end, like a lot of other netizens, user “FPA” calls on Chinese travelers to respect the locals and their culture: “We are making progress on this. I just hope foreign countries won’t discriminate against us.”
 
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