Taliban Hold Open Meetings in Pakistan to Discuss Leadership

[Spring Onion]

You haven't heard about quetta shurra and peshawar shurra? this isn't something new..taliban's operational base is pakistan.

Pakistan was also the operational base of Lion of Punjshir so you better sit back and count your eggs

 

[Not So Good]

Expected that response. Classic Indian brainfart.

No seriously there is nothing to argue
You support taliban thats your point of view,
May be Pakistani stance is more correct
Who are we
No disrespect please

 

[MilSpec]

hahah ... this is epic munafqat

you people are compulsive perpetual liars

First you barfed about human rights then found yourself in a compromised position because of massacres done by warlords back by india , then your lie about india not making rona dhona about Pak-China co-operation got exposed, now again you are trying to weasel your way out of it.. FAIL!!!

Please do show me any contrasting element in my narrative, and would willfully yield... I do suggest opening a tab of thesaurus before you attempt to do so.

 

[Hiptullha]

No , Not just Indian but "logic" dictates that Mullah omar's "TALIBAN", one of the most draconian system imposed upon Afghanistan, with one of the most horrible human rights and civil liberties record, and a breeding ground for terrorists from around the world - "Bad"..... So much so anything that's not Taliban - is good by the set benchmark of talibn that you deem "allied" to Pakistan. Hope that clarifies my position on Taliban.

Indians have a very special brand of logic, I see.
The same Indian logic supports Soviet-backed regimes torturing and disposing of political prisoners in secret camps, killing off entire villages in the countryside. The same Indian logic also happens to support another band of former Jihadis who wanted to impose the same draconian system they seem to despise. Despite India's long standing passion and love for human rights, they saw no problem in backing warlords notorious for raping children, slicing off women's breasts and slaughtering entire tribes.
What a confused lot. Seems like Indians have this special bi-polar disease.

 

[Sine Nomine]

is this the one where Dostums forces, fired on prisoner containers?

May be you haven't really heard why JiM soldiers did what they did to Taliban prisoners.
remember 1997, when Taliban Entered Mazar-e Sharif and went house to house and killed about 8000 hazaras... After removal of Abdul Malik Pehalwan from junbish-e-milli and return of Rashid Dostum, Hazaras commanders from mazar joined a predominantly uzbek junbishi.

dashte laila massacre - if not mistaken were the prisoners of qala-e-jangi fort, and three of the commanders of the Junbish were hzaras, 2 of them veteran dostum's uzbek commanders one out them was son of General Abdullah karim.

In 97 taliban suffocated hazaras in container, payback was un-evitable. Although a despicable act, I think context is necessary to know what happened and why it happened.

Well this is known as true intellectual dishonesty,What is source for JiM claim,You know 6 months ago a squad of Tajik Talibans were arrested all educated men,before that no one even was able to think that they can ever be Tajik Taliabvn but surely there are now.Rashid Dostum...lol...he is an angel only i know an instance when he crushed Two of his sodiers for stealing a Bread under a Tank.Also when NA took Pashtun Area they committed horrible crimes on common Peoples....
The Ethnic Cleansing of Afghans in Northern Afghanistan
And above all US the Head of Human Rights was also part of that,And last then what is difference between the two?

Now as far as your comparison, Indian Military is not chopping of hands of thieves, stoning women or beating women for showing thier ankles through their burkha,

Chopping Hand of thieves,stoning those men and women who committed adultery is still lot better then fake encounters,killing own comrades and raping women,is it or not..........

 

[MilSpec]

Well this is known as true intellectual dishonesty,What is source for JiM claim,You know 6 months ago a squad of Tajik Talibans were arrested all educated men,before that no one even was able to think that they can ever be Tajik Taliabvn but surely there are now.Rashid Dostum...lol...he is an angel only i know an instance when he crushed Two of his sodiers for stealing a Bread under a Tank.Also when NA took Pashtun Area they committed horrible crimes on common Peoples....
The Ethnic Cleansing of Afghans in Northern Afghanistan
And above all US the Head of Human Rights was also part of that,And last then what is difference between the two?

Chopping Hand of thieves,stoning those men and women who committed adultery is still lot better then fake encounters,killing own comrades and raping women,is it or not..........

I just gave you the actual back the story of prisoners of qala-e-jangi fort soldiers that were shot by Junbishi. I am not saying what they did was right. If you read my post again that would be quite clear.

Indians have a very special brand of logic, I see.
The same Indian logic supports Soviet-backed regimes torturing and disposing of political prisoners in secret camps, killing off entire villages in the countryside. The same Indian logic also happens to support another band of former Jihadis who wanted to impose the same draconian system they seem to despise. Despite India's long standing passion and love for human rights, they saw no problem in backing warlords notorious for raping children, slicing off women's breasts and slaughtering entire tribes.
What a confused lot. Seems like Indians have this special bi-polar disease.

Yupp... Taliban was the answer to Afghan problems, wonder why did you do a backflip on them too then?

 

[Hiptullha]

Yupp... Taliban was the answer to Afghan problems, wonder why did you do a backflip on them too then?

The Taliban originally did have the goal of uniting the country, ridding the country of the numerous warlords wandering around and ushering in the rule of Zahir Shah. On the other hand, the Northern Alliance was made up of warlords trying to cover their asses after seeing numerous Taliban gains across the country.

Interesting to see you've given up the previous "principled and dignified Indian pacifist" approach.

 

[ghoul]

wait for another civil war like in 1992 . these uneducated cave men will fight next 300 years

And try to flood our country, and then cry about "racism against Pashtuns", and how its only Pakistan army's fault that they're fighting like dogs.

The solution to Afghanistan's problem is that the Tajik majority areas including Kabul merge with Tajikistan. The Uzbek areas with Uzbekistan and Herat with Iran. In the South there should be an independent Pashtunistan and a referendum should be held in KPK, Fata and Northern Balochistan if they want to join the independent Pashtunistan. The Pashtun areas of Afghanistan should never be merged with Pakistan otherwise we'd have a whole new Talib problem.

 

[MilSpec]

The Taliban originally did have the goal of uniting the country, ridding the country of the numerous warlords wandering around and ushering in the rule of Zahir Shah. On the other hand, the Northern Alliance was made up of warlords trying to cover their asses after seeing numerous Taliban gains across the country.

Interesting to see you've given up the previous "principled and dignified Indian pacifist" approach.

I haven't, but there is not point in debating with someone who doesn't have an ounce of logic and defends the most draconian regime in the history of modern times. Why even make the futile attempt to do so....
I maintain that Mullah Omar's Taliban regime was the most heinous, atrocious regime seen in Afghanistan till date.

 

[Zarvan]

If you think that Mullah Omars Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan was better than Hamid karzai's government or even Dr. Najibullah's government, then you should really contemplate seeking some professional help....

I suggest same to you

 

[SQ8]

I suggest same to you

You first, hopefully all this extremist bullshit will be wiped out in some nuclear war between India and Pakistan.

 

[Zarvan]

You first, hopefully all this extremist bullshit will be wiped out in some nuclear war between India and Pakistan.

Sir I have as for these open meetings have brought out good. News channels are reporting that new Taliban leader have agreed to continue talks. As for extremism I wish you had listened to Lt General Nadir Janjua speech today which he gave at martyrs day ceremony in Quetta. He sounded some sought of religious scholar than a soldier. I loved the talk.

 

[MadDog]

what are these talibs doing in Pakistan isn't there an operation going on to kill terrorists,or is it again good taliban and bad taliban.

Pakistan's op was to establish writ in North Waziristan, which it has done effectively, there were TTP, uzbeks, chechens, Haqqanis, LEJ, Afghan groups, however the faction of Afghan taliban which wants to talk to US and Afghan govt is considered equal party in war, they have a representative office in Qatar, they hold meetings with Afghan interlocuters in Norway, Japan, China, Saudia Arabia, Dubai, Qatar and Pakistan, please also ask those countries what are taliban interlocutors doing in their countries before pointing fingers at Pakistan.

 

[Hiptullha]

I haven't, but there is not point in debating with someone who doesn't have an ounce of logic and defends the most draconian regime in the history of modern times. Why even make the futile attempt to do so....
I maintain that Mullah Omar's Taliban regime was the most heinous, atrocious regime seen in Afghanistan till date.

Look who is talking.
Come on, there hasn't been any logic in your post. It's just making a few statements and expecting them to be agreed with because you used words like "draconian", and "heinous", and "atrocious".

You first, hopefully all this extremist bullshit will be wiped out in some nuclear war between India and Pakistan.

Who is the extremist one here? The other side happens to support the same people, only with little more diversity. They have ex-Mujahideen fighters, many of who still want to create an Islamic State (only different from the one the Taliban wanted to create) but they also have warlords, drug traffickers and pedophiles.

 

[SQ8]

Who is the extremist one here? The other side happens to support the same people, only with little more diversity. They have ex-Mujahideen fighters, many of who still want to create an Islamic State (only different from the one the Taliban wanted to create) but they also have warlords, drug traffickers and pedophiles.

I prefer my nuclear extremism for drastic change to slow and meaningless tolerance of people who promote female circumcision or sex with 8 year old girls.