Taiwan has $57.9 billion trade surplus for 2017 | Xinhua

[Martian2]

Taiwan's AU Optronics owns 6,000 patents in LCD display technology. Another 5,500 patents are pending.

Taiwan's Epistar owns 1,000 LED patents.

Taiwan controls 90% of the worldwide sales of notebook computers, because it owns most of the patents for notebook computers.

Vietnam produces FIVE USPTO patents per year. Vietnam cannot enter a single high-tech industry dominated by Taiwan or mainland China.

Every year, Taiwan adds another 11,000 USPTO patents.

Every year, mainland China adds its own 11,000 USPTO patents.

The modern world is controlled by technology patents. Taiwan has them (about 170,000 USPTO patents cumulatively during the last 30 years).

Mainland China has about 50,000 cumulative USPTO patents from the last 30 years.

Vietnam has about 100 total USPTO patents during the last 30 years.

The claim that Vietnam is making any progress in modernization and catching up to Taiwan or mainland China is an absolutely ridiculous proposition and completely laughable.

Industrialization and modernization are extremely difficult. Serving as a manufacturing base for foreign companies and their technologies is easy. However, those foreign companies can choose to move their manufacturing plants and patented technologies to another country at their discretion. Furthermore, profits earned from the exports of foreign patented-technologies belong to the foreign companies.

While Vietnam's exports of computer parts may be increasing yearly, it has no material impact on Vietnam. The technologies and patents of those computer parts belong to foreign Taiwanese and mainland Chinese companies. The profits also belong to the Taiwanese and mainland Chinese companies.

Vietnam is no closer to industrialization and modernization today than it was 50 years ago. Nothing has changed. When a country produces a negligible five USPTO patents per year, it might as well exist in the Dark Ages. There is no improvement in the country's technology.

 

[AndrewJin]

Taiwan's AU Optronics owns 6,000 patents in LCD display technology. Another 5,500 patents are pending.

Taiwan's Epistar owns 1,000 LED patents.

Taiwan controls 90% of the worldwide production of notebook computers, because it owns most of the patents for notebook computers.

Vietnam produces FIVE USPTO patents per year. Vietnam cannot enter a single high-tech industry dominated by Taiwan or mainland China.

Every year, Taiwan adds another 11,000 USPTO patents.

Every year, mainland China adds its own 11,000 USPTO patents.

The modern world is controlled by technology patents. Taiwan has them (about 170,000 USPTO patents cumulatively during the last 30 years).

Mainland China has about 50,000 cumulative USPTO patents from the last 30 years.

Vietnam has about 100 total USPTO patents during the last 30 years.

The claim that Vietnam is making any progress in modernization and catching up to Taiwan or mainland China is an absolutely ridiculous proposition and completely laughable.

Industrialization and modernization are extremely difficult. Serving as a manufacturing base for foreign companies and their technologies is easy. However, those foreign companies can choose to move their manufacturing plants and patented technologies to another country at their discretion. Furthermore, profits earned from the exports of foreign patented-technologies belong to the foreign companies.

While Vietnam's exports of computer parts may be increasing yearly, it has no material impact on Vietnam. The technologies and patents of those computer parts belong to foreign Taiwanese and mainland Chinese companies. The profits also belong to the Taiwanese and mainland Chinese companies.

Vietnam is no closer to industrialization and modernization today than it was 50 years ago. Nothing has changed. When a country produces a negligible five USPTO patents per year, it might as well exist in the Dark Ages. There is no improvement in the country's technology.

All countries need to learn from India.
They have the most patents.

 

[Martian2]

There are 195 countries in the world.

The list of industrialized and high-tech countries is a pretty short list.

United States
Europe
China
Japan
South Korea
Taiwan
Australia
Canada

Basically, the West and Northeast Asian countries. Only these countries have semiconductor fabrication plants and advanced electronics (e.g. gigabit routers, computer servers, etc.).

In the ten years that I've watched the USPTO recipients list, I can tell you that no additional country has significantly moved up the technological ladder.
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China's Billion-dollar Companies

I am focusing on China's tech companies. Banks, insurance companies, real estate companies, etc. are excluded from this list.

Here's my pick of China's Top 55 technology companies. Many of China's largest military contractors, such as NORINCO, are missing. It's simply my personal preference to keep the spotlight on the civilian companies.

China's Norinco Is Defense Giant on Global Growth Path - Businessweek
"Sep 25, 2014 - The bottom line: China arms maker Norinco's $62 billion in 2013 revenue make it bigger than Lockheed Martin or General Dynamics."

Huawei - $92 billion in sales
China Railway Construction - $89.9 billion
SAIC Motor - $88.3 billion
ChemChina - $39.69
Lenovo - $38.71 billion
BAIC Motor - $33.3 billion
Haier - $29.5 billion
Midea - $24 billion
Huaneng Power International - $21.8 billion
China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) - $21.61 billion
Sinohydro Group - $19.7 billion
Great Wall Technology - $15.1 billion
China CNR - $14.6 billion
CSR - $14.1 billion
GREE - $14 billion
TCL - $13.83 billion
ZTE - $13.1 billion
Tencent - $12.899 billion
Shanghai Electric Group - $12.8 billion
Sinomach Automobile - $12.18 billion
Datang International Power - $12.1 billion
Shanghai Pharmaceuticals - $12.09 billion
Xiaomi - $12 billion
China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp. - $11.29 billion (2009 revenue)
China National Chemical- $9.67 billion
Weichai Power - $9.4 billion
Sichuan Changhong Electric - $9.24 billion
Great Wall Motor - $8.9 billion
BYD - $8.4 billion
Alibaba - $7.95 billion
Baidu - $7.906 billion
China Shipbuilding Industry - $7.9 billion
SINOPEC Engineering (Group) - $7.1 billion
Dongfang Electric - $6.85 billion
Yunnan Yuntianhua - $6.55 billion
Zoomlion Heavy Industry - $6.24 billion
Dongfeng Motor Group - $6.1 billion
Inspur - $5.9 billion
Chongqing Changan Auto - $5.83 billion
Sany Heavy Industry - $5.8 billion
AVIC International - $5.39 billion
BOE Technology Group - $5.38 billion
HiSilicon - $4.7 billion
China Oilfield Services - $4.5 billion
Wanhua Chemical Group - $3.2 billion
Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. Ltd. - $3 billion
Goldwind - $2.85 billion
Shenyang Machine Tool Co. - $2.7 billion
DJI - $2.7 billion
SMIC - $2.07 billion
Netease - $1.5 billion
Hikvision - $1.49 billion
Shenzhen's AAC Technologies (micro-acoustics) - $1.43 billion
Spreadtrum - $1.07 billion
RDA Microelectronics - $0.43 billion
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References:

The World's Biggest Public Companies | Forbes Global 2000
Bloomberg
Statista
Company websites

ChemChina - Global 500 2014 - Fortune
ChemChina: $39.69 billion in sales

2014 Q4 Results - Non-Acoustic Segments Contribute 20% of Annual Revenue | Latest News

 

[scope]

Many of those Western nations abuse Chinese high tech coolies to do their work and then steal credit. The brain drain needs to reverse asap. Very few things would make me happier than to watch these sea turtles swim back home.

Back to the motherland!

 

[TaiShang]

Many of those Western nations abuse Chinese high tech coolies to do their work and then steal credit. The brain drain needs to reverse asap. Very few things would make me happier than to watch these sea turtles swim back home.

Back to the motherland!

This sounds like an invitation to @Martian2

Nothing is like home, indeed.

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what SDN? is it software-defined networking? if yes, can you say more about it? I am interested of the topic.

ok let´s see. VN shipped 70% more computers and components to China last year, totally $3 billion. phones and electronics components 700% more, totally $5.4 billion. I think we can do that. you invent stuff, we produce. win win.

My friend, you tried hard to deflect the debate but looks like Martian is just too smart to fall for that

 

[Viet]

This sounds like an invitation to @Martian2

Nothing is like home, indeed.

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My friend, you tried hard to deflect the debate but looks like Martian is just too smart to fall for that

Look, our friend Martian is drunken by the sheer number, I just picked up his example of Huawei to show the weakness of his argument: VN has little patents hence remains for ever poor and backward. Ok we will see. Personally I am very hopeful, we are the only in the developing world that plays in the same field with rich developed countries in terms of education. Pisa and other studies prove that. The numbers of Vietnamese international students in Japan, America and elsewhere surpass since years other countries with the same economic level.

Lldp is a international standard communications protocol between switches. If anyone suggests modifications or improvements or receives a patent for this and that, he or she must file the proposal to the respective committee to get approval. Once approved the proposal will become standard and free for everyone to use. No company in the world will pay for and implement non standard Lldp, because in doing so, after purchase all of those non standard equipments can be thrown into the next trash bin.

Lldp has little to interact with SDN controller. I can say more about it but will be off topic.

Last, this news is interesting: China’s King Long bus will be assembled in a plant in Da Nang. Once in production we can export surplus back to China. As wages in VN are just half of China, we can make the bus cheaper.

 

[Three_Kingdoms]

Look, our friend Martian is drunken by the sheer number, I just picked up his example of Huawei to show the weakness of his argument: VN has little patents hence remains for ever poor and backward. Ok we will see. Personally I am very hopeful, we are the only in the developing world that plays in the same field with rich developed countries in terms of education. Pisa and other studies prove that. The numbers of Vietnamese international students in Japan, America and elsewhere surpass since years other countries with the same economic level.

Lldp is a international standard communications protocol between switches. If anyone suggests modifications or improvements or receives a patent for this and that, he or she must file the proposal to the respective committee to get approval. Once approved the proposal will become standard and free for everyone to use. No company in the world will pay for and implement non standard Lldp, because in doing so, after purchase all of those non standard equipments can be thrown into the next trash bin.

Lldp has little to interact with SDN controller. I can say more about it but will be off topic.

Last, this news is interesting: China’s King Long bus will be assembled in a plant in Da Nang. Once in production we can export surplus back to China. As wages in VN are just half of China, we can make the bus cheaper.

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I think you should give up instead of arguing in losing attempts.
King Long bus sets up manufacturing plant(s) in VN confirms @Martian2 's pov that VN is a "screw-driver" manufacturing base only. That is it at the moment.
In terms of education, it builds on the strength of the number of publications in esteemed scholastic journals, quotations and peer reviews, R & D facilities; graduating students' performances and others measures like collegiate competitions and awards ...etc and LESS LIKELY on the sheer number of students sent overseas for studies.

Since I've heard that you are a coder, you should know these:

Tsinghua beats MIT for top computer science spot in global ranking
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2017-10/30/content_33891752.htm

and

Tsinghua Named World’s Best Engineering, Computer Science School
The university overtakes MIT in two US News & World Report subject rankings.
http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1001057/tsinghua-named-worlds-best-engineering,-computer-science-school

and:

Which country has the best programmers? Hint: It's not the US
In a study of hundreds of thousands of programmers, China and Russia were found to produce the best software developers.

"This is also not the first time that America has been humbled by the likes of China and Russia in the programming arena. At the collegiate level during the recent ACM International Collegiate Programming Contest, schools from China and Russia beat out the likes of Harvard and MIT."

September 1, 2016 8:51 AM PDT
https://www.cnet.com/news/which-country-has-the-best-programmers-hint-its-not-the-us/

 

[Viet]

I think you should give up instead of arguing in losing attempts.
King Long bus sets up manufacturing plant(s) in VN confirms @Martian2 's pov that VN is a "screw-driver" manufacturing base only. That is it at the moment.
In terms of education, it builds on the strength of the number of publications in esteemed scholastic journals, quotations and peer reviews, R & D facilities; graduating students' performances and others measures like collegiate competitions and awards ...etc and LESS LIKELY on the sheer number of students sent overseas for studies.

Since I've heard that you are a coder, you should know these:

Tsinghua beats MIT for top computer science spot in global ranking
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2017-10/30/content_33891752.htm

and

Tsinghua Named World’s Best Engineering, Computer Science School
The university overtakes MIT in two US News & World Report subject rankings.
http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1001057/tsinghua-named-worlds-best-engineering,-computer-science-school

and:

Which country has the best programmers? Hint: It's not the US
In a study of hundreds of thousands of programmers, China and Russia were found to produce the best software developers.

"This is also not the first time that America has been humbled by the likes of China and Russia in the programming arena. At the collegiate level during the recent ACM International Collegiate Programming Contest, schools from China and Russia beat out the likes of Harvard and MIT."

September 1, 2016 8:51 AM PDT
https://www.cnet.com/news/which-country-has-the-best-programmers-hint-its-not-the-us/

No I am not a coder, I do something that majority of Vietnamese do in western companies that Chinese can’t, nor other ethnic groups, not even the german natives.

Probably only 1 percent of patents is commercially interesting. So the huge 10,000 figure is misleading.

I know Russia with one famous software company but not a single one from China. Can you name a few?

Why assembling buses is bad? It is great to see something growing up.

Germany has SAP and LanCom. The US has too many software companies to count.

 

[Three_Kingdoms]

No I am not a coder, I do something that majority of Vietnamese do in western companies that Chinese can’t, nor other ethnic groups, not even the german natives..

It seems you have mentioned a bit about how software beats hardware companies and also about your compatriots working in some software companies overseas which all together are leading ppl to think you may be working in the same field too.

Probably only 1 percent of patents is commercially interesting. So the huge 10,000 figure is misleading...

All people or corps that have filed for patents registrations have their aspirations for great commercial/propropietary value. Some of those lose values due to expiry, obsolete, lack of usage or some other reasons. Please quote where to find the '1%' and '10,000' data; or it is again your own uneducated perception.

I know Russia with one famous software company but not a single one from China. Can you name a few?.

There are a few, some publicly listed corps in HK, SH, NY stock exchanges. They are serve our huge Chinese IT and commercial markets, namely:

用友软件股份有限公司
UFIDA Software Co. Ltd
Beijing, 北京
Stock Code: 600588.SH
www.ufida.com

奇虎360安全卫士

Qihoo 360 Technology Co. Ltd
Beijing, 北京
Stock Code: NYSE: QIHU
www.360.cn

东软集团股份有限公司

Neusoft Corporation
Liaoning, 辽宁
Stock Code: 600718.SH
www.neusoft.com

北京金山数字娱乐科技有限公司
Beijing Kingsoft Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
Beijing, 北京
Stock Code: 3888.HK
www.kingsoft.com

金蝶软件(中国)有限公司

Kingdee Software (China) Co., Ltd.
Guangdong, 广东
stock code: 268.HK
www.kingdee.com/
en/index.jsp

浪潮集团有限公司

Inspur Group Co., Ltd.
Shandong, 山东
www.inspur.com

Also: Software companies of China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_companies_of_China

Over time, the above companies will become world beaters.

Why assembling buses is bad? It is great to see something growing up..

"Why assembling buses is bad" -That is not what it meant. You need to be aware that assembling skills are lying low in the technological skill chain. That is what label "screw-driver" manufacturers signifies.

Germany has SAP and LanCom. The US has too many software companies to count.

We have a class of our own. See above

 

[Viet]

"Why assembling buses is bad" -That is not what it meant. You need to be aware that assembling skills are lying low in the technological skill chain. That is what label "screw-driver" manufacturers signifies.

ok screwdrivering buses requires low skills but generates more incomes than planting banana or growing rice, isn´t it? or do you think we should skip it then jump to hightech manufacturing? VN car and bus manufacturing is small but growing steadily, we need more time, more money, more expertise. for example I find great we can copy or clone China made bus King Long once we screwdrive them domestically. lets say we name the new model as Queen Dragon.

Buses made by the domestic manufacture Thaco

if you haven´t noticed, at present there are three VN car manufactures Truong Hai, Thanh Cong and Vinfast. the first two´s make korean and japanese cars in licence, the last will produce own brand. capacity: 500,000 cars per year. ok you will say half a million is nothing compared to chinese market, but we have to start somewhere.

 

[Martian2]

Innovation is at the heart of Taiwan's trade surplus

Taiwan's trade surplus was $50 billion in 2016.

For 2017, Taiwan's trade surplus was $57.9 billion.

Why does Taiwan's trade surplus keep going up?

MediaTek is a good example of a Taiwanese company. You cannot stay complacent in your old industrial categories, such as smartphone SoC (sytem on a chip). The mainland Chinese companies are hot in pursuit and mainland China's Spreadtrum is willing to compete on price in 3G and 4G LTE chips.

Intelligently, MediaTek is innovating and blazing a trail into new technologies, where mainland Chinese competition currently does not exist.

"MediaTek’s mmWave radar CMOS design includes embedded RF and baseband processing, and integrated antenna in package."

"Among these, mmWave radars are particularly new. MediaTek has managed to crash a select group of chip vendors who have successfully developed CMOS-based radars. Others include: NXP, Texas Instruments and Infineon.

JC Hsu, MediaTek's corporate vice president responsible for its automotive business, told us, 'Our mmWave radars, operating between 76-81GHz, can detect obstacles in 10 to 15 meters,' making them an ideal replacement for the ultrasound devices currently used to detect objects closer to a vehicle. 'OEMs and tier ones are delighted that they no longer have to drill holes for ultrasound chips.'"
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MediaTek Pushes AI to the Edge | EE Times (January 12, 2018)

"Downplaying the company’s dependence on the smartphone market, Ku said smartphones — the single biggest driver for the company’s growth over the past several years — generated 'less than 40 percent' of its revenue last year.

Roughly 30 percent of MediaTek’s sales last year derived from its Internet of Things (IoT) and ASIC/PMIC businesses. Ku described these two units as MediaTek’s 'growth sector,' which grew 20 percent last year.

Another 30 percent of sales came from what Ku calls a 'stable cash-cow business,' selling chips designed into digital TV, feature phones, monitors and optical storage."