Swedish mosque set ablaze

[Desert Fox]

Why would Zionists want to flood Europe with Muslims? If their plan is to weaken Europe for whatever reason wouldn't it make more sense for them to get non Muslim immigrants and the people you want in power would not have good intentions for the rest of the world.

Perhaps because it makes a unified struggle less possible. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that ignorant Muslim/third world masses + predominantly Christian & secular societies = violent confrontations and divisions within those societies.

Secondly, i personally cannot decide for others who rules them.

I don't know about the conspiracies but for people like me these ******** are going to make life very difficult. Something has to be done by the local Muslim communities to weed out these disgusting bastards.

Sadly, Muslim communities within Europe seem too slow to address this problem, they must not care since it isn't Muslim girls being raped and harassed by White men i guess.

For those of us who do want to take a stand against the filth of extremism we are very few in numbers and the majority of our Muslim people drown our voices due to this. If the majority won't change then this problem will never be fixed and the end result will not be pleasant for all, including the good Muslims.

Surprising news. Sweden is very liberal and tolerant country.

That is their weakness. They're so liberals that they embrace all kinds of third world immigrants, including criminals posing as asylum seekers and the end result we can see for ourselves.

Too much Liberalism = downfall of the West.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Sadly, Muslim communities within Europe seem too slow to address this problem, they must not care since it isn't Muslim girls being raped and harassed by White men i guess.

For those of us who do want to take a stand against the filth of extremism we are very few in numbers and the majority of our Muslim people drown our voices due to this. If the majority won't change then this problem will never be fixed and the end result will not be pleasant for all, including the good Muslims.

There is so much denial and arrogance in our communities residing here. And there are no words that I can use to defend the types of crimes some of British Pakistani youths have been involved in more then any other ethnicity.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Surprising news. Sweden is very liberal and tolerant country.

You just need one nutjob to burn down a mosque. There are plenty of nutjobs in any country...
There are churches burning every year due to arson, so Muslims should not feel that
they are especially targetted. They are not.
While Churches, Synagogues and Mosques regularily suffer from Graffiti,
it was a long time since the previous attack on a mosque of this dignity.

Without witnesses it may be problematic to catch the perpetrator if it is a one-off crime.
We had an arsonist in the village where I was brought up, and he burned down almost all
the major industries because he liked the excitement.
They caught him, when they realized that he was always there watching the firebrigade.

Reason for attack on Mosque: could be many different reasons.
You have to catch the perpetrators first.

My bet would be a gang of youngsters. Thats what they do!

Police should of course do an investigation, but
I think best is to just treat this as a cost of business and move on.
If life continues as usual, the community wins.
If community changes its behaviour due to such things, the perpetrators win.

 

[hussain0216]

Few questions:

1). Which Muslim country did Sweden colonize??

2). How is it payback for colonialism??

3). Why do Muslims immigrate to the "evil White racist's" country if Europeans are evil and inferior and Muslims are superior??

4). Do you think Muslims are paying right now for colonizing other countries??

5). Muslims kill/subjugate other Muslims on a daily basis. How come your ilk don't express any anger then?

You spoke about Europe as a whole so did I, Europe as a whole has partaken in an immense amount of abuse and manipulation of innocent nations, their people's and resources both in the recent and far past

Part of Europe's success came from the theft of other people's wealth and resources including muslim


Europeans spent a few centuries stealing the wealth and abusing and enslaving innocent countries and people's
Did they respect the local culture
Did they respect our faith
Did they respect our sovereignty
Did they respect our ownership of our resources
Did they try to fit in or integrate

Its all good saying When in Rome do as the Romans except that the Romans when out of Rome always behaved and abused as they wanted



Currently it is natural for immigrants including muslim to try to go to countries which offer economic benefits
Most migrants are economic migrants they dont necessarily care for the local people or culture they just pursue a more lucrative lifestyle where they can make more money

The british abused and occupied millions from India/south asia for two hundred years once they had to give freedom to these countries millions of their people followed them back

The same goes for France and North africa


In fact the Europeans complain too much, The franch killed 1,000,000 algerians in the independence war yet a relatively small amount of crimes from a minority and the Europeans act like wronged martyrs

Muslims express plenty of Anger both against terrorists and western foreign policy

Millions of muslim marched on the streets demanding that the planned iraq war was based on lies and deception pleading that it would radicalise millions of youth

What we do means nothing



We should fight for our rights the best we can, if they burn or attack our mosques build them again and higher
Make as much money and take as much as you can, obey the law and pay your taxes
Preserve and spread our faith but be more prepared then the jews to leave when the next European decent into inhumanity comes


Europe is finished lets take what we can before it goes down

 

[Cheetah786]

You spoke about Europe as a whole so did I, Europe as a whole has partaken in an immense amount of abuse and manipulation of innocent nations, their people's and resources both in the recent and far past

Part of Europe's success came from the theft of other people's wealth and resources including muslim


Europeans spent a few centuries stealing the wealth and abusing and enslaving innocent countries and people's
Did they respect the local culture
Did they respect our faith
Did they respect our sovereignty
Did they respect our ownership of our resources
Did they try to fit in or integrate

Its all good saying When in Rome do as the Romans except that the Romans when out of Rome always behaved and abused as they wanted



Currently it is natural for immigrants including muslim to try to go to countries which offer economic benefits
Most migrants are economic migrants they dont necessarily care for the local people or culture they just pursue a more lucrative lifestyle where they can make more money

The british abused and occupied millions from India/south asia for two hundred years once they had to give freedom to these countries millions of their people followed them back

The same goes for France and North africa


In fact the Europeans complain too much, The franch killed 1,000,000 algerians in the independence war yet a relatively small amount of crimes from a minority and the Europeans act like wronged martyrs

Muslims express plenty of Anger both against terrorists and western foreign policy

Millions of muslim marched on the streets demanding that the planned iraq war was based on lies and deception pleading that it would radicalise millions of youth

What we do means nothing



We should fight for our rights the best we can, if they burn or attack our mosques build them again and higher
Make as much money and take as much as you can, obey the law and pay your taxes
Preserve and spread our faith but be more prepared then the jews to leave when the next European decent into inhumanity comes


Europe is finished take what we can before it goes down

You are asking,if they respect you or not,because of you being a Muslim? Question is do you .What you are saying is totally the opposite of what Islam teaches .The rant you just posted, has what to do with Islam. Please explain.

 

[Jayanta]

No one want muslims and mosques in his country.they can see whats going on in muslim world.its risk for civilzed world freeedom and cultures

I hope you can understand what goes through the mind of common European when they see their public property vandalised, police humiliated and attacked by people shouting slogans of "Allah hu akbar"...most European countries like UK, Norway, Sweden, Germany and to some extent France have been accommodating to Muslims from around the world. But what they got in return is people waging war for reasons that is none of their concern. Israel attacks Palestine, and public property is France is burned to ashes as a protest. Here in UK, they want Shariya to be implemented for all...lead by our dear Anjem Choudary. I think some people especially the young generation have had enough...and these are just signs of what's coming...although its not a good thing but one extreme gives rise another to counter it....like Newtons law...every action has its equal opposite reaction...in this case the opposite reaction hasn't reached equilibrium yet.

 

[Desert Fox]

You spoke about Europe as a whole so did I,

Different context. You're accusing all European nations of colonization. Did Poland, Latvia, Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Lithuania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Estonia, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Slovenia, Belarus, Finland colonize any Muslim lands??

Do bring proof of your collective accusation.

Historical facts for you: None of the countries above colonized Muslim lands. In fact, many of them were subjugated and plundered by other European powers (Ireland, Scotland by Britain). So your false accusation (or excuse for Muslim immigrant crimes) is baseless.

Europe as a whole has partaken in an immense amount of abuse and manipulation of innocent nations, their people's and resources both in the recent and far past

Part of Europe's success came from the theft of other people's wealth and resources including muslim

The only reason why you even know about European colonization is because of European's themselves teaching about it in their school curriculum. Otherwise im certain for sure you wouldn't even have a clue.

And don't even get me started on how Muslims plundered, enslaved, and conquered the lands of non-Muslims as well as their own fellow Muslims.

The biggest enslavers of Black Africans were Muslims for centuries.

Europeans spent a few centuries stealing the wealth and abusing and enslaving innocent countries and people's
Did they respect the local culture
Did they respect our faith
Did they respect our sovereignty
Did they respect our ownership of our resources
Did they try to fit in or integrate

Its all good saying When in Rome do as the Romans except that the Romans when out of Rome always behaved and abused as they wanted

Every nation in history has enslaved. One of the biggest profiteers of slavery were Arab Muslims who enslaved both Black Africans in the East African slave Trade and Europeans during the Barbary pirate raids on European coastal towns and villages.

If i go by your logic, is it then safe to say that Muslims deserve to be invaded and plundered since they did the same to others??

Currently it is natural for immigrants including muslim to try to go to countries which offer economic benefits
Most migrants are economic migrants they dont necessarily care for the local people or culture they just pursue a more lucrative lifestyle where they can make more money

The british abused and occupied millions from India/south asia for two hundred years once they had to give freedom to these countries millions of their people followed them back

The same goes for France and North africa

This only proves that Muslims rather be ruled by Europeans than by fellow Muslims since they flock in millions to the West.

In fact the Europeans complain too much, The franch killed 1,000,000 algerians in the independence war yet a relatively small amount of crimes from a minority and the Europeans act like wronged martyrs

It is estimated that over eleven million Muslims have died violent deaths at the hands of fellow Muslims since 1948 (i don't find that hard to believe). Even today, you have Arab Muslims slaughtering/genociding Black Muslims in Sudan.

I bet you didn't even know that. All you know is that evil Whites are the only colonizers, enslavers, etc.... Historically, Muslims have been one of the biggest enslavers and they justify it because it (slavery) is allowed in Islam.

Muslims express plenty of Anger both against terrorists and western foreign policy

Millions of muslim marched on the streets demanding that the planned iraq war was based on lies and deception pleading that it would radicalise millions of youth

What we do means nothing

So did millions of Whites/Westerners also protested against Iraq war. But the gov.t of these countries don't represent their own people.

We should fight for our rights the best we can, if they burn or attack our mosques build them again and higher
Make as much money and take as much as you can, obey the law and pay your taxes
Preserve and spread our faith but be more prepared then the jews to leave when the next European decent into inhumanity comes


Europe is finished lets take what we can before it goes down

Or, better option: Move back to Islamic country where you can have your Shariah, where you will be ruled by your own Muslim rulers, and where you can build as many Mosques as you can and where you will not have to see a single evil White person. Win win situation don't you think??

 

[Falcon29]

I may sound crazy but i think muslims will be used as scapegoats for democracy to be abolished in Europe.If you don't reform fast enough ,you'll take us all down,mark my words.

Cool, karma for beheading Algerians/Supplying bombs to rip Palestinian children apart. Karma will go away once there is change in policy. Doing something not in interest of your people isn't smart. Supporting bombing of children and providing material support comes with consequences.

 

[Desert Fox]

There is so much denial and arrogance in our communities residing here. And there are no words that I can use to defend the types of crimes some of British Pakistani youths have been involved in more then any other ethnicity.

Yeah, true. You can even see it here on this forum how some members try to excuse the criminal elements within European Muslim communities. If this is the prevailing mindset within Muslim communities in Europe then they are truly doomed.

 

[Falcon29]

Yeah, true. You can even see it here on this forum how some members try to excuse the criminal elements within European Muslim communities. If this is the prevailing mindset within Muslim communities in Europe then they are truly doomed.

No one should be excusing such people. At same time law is not in European Muslims hands. If you bring immigrants from overseas then know they understand overseas form of punishment. If authorities allow European Muslims to take law matters into their hands then it can be reduced.

 

[KingMamba]

Yeah, true. You can even see it here on this forum how some members try to excuse the criminal elements within European Muslim communities. If this is the prevailing mindset within Muslim communities in Europe then they are truly doomed.

I agree with most of your comments except historically Muslims being the biggest enslavers, Muslims did participate in the slave trade but not on the scale of Europeans. Also let us not forget that Africans were also often sold into slavery by other Africans.

 

[Desert Fox]

No one should be excusing such people. At same time law is not in European Muslims hands. If you bring immigrants from overseas then know they understand overseas form of punishment. If authorities allow European Muslims to take law matters into their hands then it can be reduced.

True, which is why i do believe that forms of punishment like beheading, stoning, and cutting hands should only be applied to Muslim communities.

And you do make a good point, which is also something i have been addressing on this forum for quite some time; the leftist/Marxist and capitalistist gov.t's of these countries are to be held accountable ultimately for allowing unrestricted immigration from third world countries. Politicians are selfish and will only bow to powerful lobbies. They will never listen to the common working man.

 

[ghoul]

For the first time in past 100+ years, Stockholm saw a riot with rioters burning cars all over the place a few years ago. And guess who the rioters were. The Swedes worked hard to make a highly advanced welfare state, only to be raped and attacked by the "refugees" who were let in on humanitarian basis.

No country on earth should allow any refugee in. We Pakistanis learnt the hard way.

 

[Falcon29]

True, which is why i do believe that forms of punishment like beheading, stoning, and cutting hands should only be applied to Muslim communities.

You do not need this. Beating/torture techniques are more than enough. Anyone who runs child prostitution rings needs to be taken in private for lesson and then executed at gunpoint. In Gaza we have some of best security on earth. Anyone that start brawl/public disorder will be dealt with immediately. We rarely have any cases of rape either. Gaza is small and crowded so anything that goes down will be spotted by neighbors. Houses are literally feet apart.

Most important thing is we have right people. Which are Hamas. Every person who is interested in disorder fears them. Including Salafi separatists.

And you do make a good point, which is also something i have been addressing on this forum for quite some time; the leftist/Marxist and capitalistist gov.t's of these countries are to be held accountable ultimately for allowing unrestricted immigration from third world countries. Politicians are selfish and will only bow to powerful lobbies. They will never listen to the common working man

Well as you said immigration policies are way they are because they were set to be that way by those who have interest in such policies. That doesn't mean you need to end immigration, just bring over the right people. In the United States we don't have this problem.

 

[ghoul]

You do not need this. Beating/torture techniques are more than enough. Anyone who runs child prostitution rings needs to be taken in private for lesson and then executed at gunpoint. In Gaza we have some of best security on earth. Anyone that start brawl/public disorder will be dealt with immediately. We rarely have any cases of rape either. Gaza is small and crowded so anything that goes down will be spotted by neighbors. Houses are literally feet apart.

Most important thing is we have right people. Which are Hamas. Every person who is interested in disorder fears them. Including Salafi separatists.



Well as you said immigration policies are way they are because they were set to be that way by those who have interest in such policies. That doesn't mean you need to end immigration, just bring over the right people. In the United States we don't have this problem.

Hamas aren't Salafi?