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Sulli Deals: The sadistic targeting of assertive Indian Muslim women

Lol. Wolf in sheep clothes like I said. When not in power. As soon as in power: secret police, labor camps, massacres. And death and destruction in scale seldom seen in human history.

So, you think Yuri Gagarin and the Afghan, Abdul Ahad Mohmand, went to space at the point of a gun ?

So, you will discredit the ideology based on some wrongful implementations ?

You should read the sci-fi book Mars written by Ben Bova where the Soviet travelers to Mars are more comradely than the Westerners.

What about jails run by the West in Guantanamo Bay and Bagram ?

Not these dead skeletons again

Not your "They are nobodies" repetitions again.

Yeah because it was too dumb for me to answer. So I gave it a pass

Let's talk. What do you find foolish about that text ?
 
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Even on this thread where muslim women are being put online for "auction" and impending genocide all this commie had to talk about was how Asad Uddin Owaisi looks like

Since obviously that is more important to discuss than a genocide about to happen

What do you suggest should happen among Indian Muslims ?
 
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So, you think Yuri Gagarin and the Afghan, Abdul Ahad Mohmand, went to space at the point of a gun ?

So, you will discredit the ideology based on some wrongful implementations ?

You should read the sci-fi book Mars written by Ben Bova where the Soviets are more comradely and non-officious than the Westerners.

What about jails run by the West in Guantanamo Bay and Bagram ?



Not your "They are nobodies" repetitions again.



Let's talk. What do you find foolish about that text ?
Yeah. Give example of a propaganda stunt while the whole country gets invaded and millions get killed and displaced. No thank you.

And looks like all the implementations are bad. In each and every case communists have been worst oppressors of their own people.

And each communism experiment has either ended in its complete collapse, reform to something else or worse kind of close regimes like North Korea.

Like someone said. You follow Karl Marx, we have our own guide and ideal and don’t need any others.
 
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And looks like all the implementations are bad. In each and every case communists have been worst oppressors of their own people.

So why do Cubans not revolt against the Leftist system there ?
 
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So why do Cubans not revolt against the Leftist system there ?
Because the secret police kills all the dissidents and label them reactionary. You want full rights to propagate your idea but anyone doing the same in a communist state will get a bullet to the head.
 
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Because the secret police kills all the dissidents and label them reactionary. You want full rights to propagate your idea but anyone doing the same in a communist state will get a bullet to the head.

1. I think you are overdramatising the secret police part.

2. You want Cubans to be given stock markets and people to bet money on them and lose the money and jump off buildings or into steel furnaces like they do in USA and China ?

3. Even a Capitalist country like Spain has nationalized all private clinics and hospitals in 2020, making healthcare free for all its citizens. What will you tell them ?

4. The Leftist revolutionary Gaddafi had vowed during the initial phase after the 1969 revolution that his own parents would live in a tent until all Libyans are not given [ free ] houses. Can you imagine any Capitalist leader saying this ?

5. Other such examples.
 
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What do you suggest should happen among Indian Muslims ?

How to avoid a genocide should be the first thing that should be discussed among Indian muslims instead of who should dress like who which is more of a personal issue

But apparently your commie mind isn't developed enough to understand that
Not your "They are nobodies" repetitions again.

They are dead. Stop obsessing about people who are dead and are not relevant anymore


Let's talk. What do you find foolish about that text ?

Everything


Some teachings of Karl marx match to Islam. Well good but it would still remain a failed system that essentially is against religion and hence should be thrown in dustbin
 
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1. I think you are overdramatising the secret police part.
You want to underestimate hundreds of thousands, killed, imprisoned and sent to labor camps by the secret police in the various communist regimes?

2. You want Cubans to be given stock markets and people to bet money on them and lose the money and jump off buildings or into steel furnaces like they do in USA and China ?
they are already on the path. Just like China and Vietnam they have started reforms by allowing private business ownership. :lol:

You would rather kill these people beforehand for wanting private ownership and economic freedom?

3. Even a Capitalist country like Spain has nationalized all private clinics and hospitals in 2020, making healthcare free for all its citizens. What will you tell them ?
Same done in Pakistan and was disastrous. Just one of many examples that took us from the fastest growing economy to the current state:


As for free basic welfare service. You don’t have to be communist country with all of its oppressions to do that. Tons of non-communist countries provide it to their citizens.

4. The Leftist revolutionary Gaddafi had vowed during the initial phase after the 1969 revolution that his own parents would live in a tent until all Libyans are not given [ free ] houses. Can you imagine any Capitalist leader saying this ?

That tent was 5 star and again he would kill anyone opposed to his one man rule while his son paid millions to Beyoncé to perform in his birthday. Not to mention the absolute luxury and depravity of the sons of another leftist revolutionary Saddam.

5. Other such examples.

Yeah sure, just like above :lol:
 
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Seems like you haven’t seen Reddit pages where Muslims post pics of Hindu girls and I can’t explain further, khud hi dekh le.
Tu bhi dekhle...

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Will you stop doing the whataboutery(the usual refuge for Hindutva bigots) over here?
Lol it was mentioned in News Media outlests who mentioned it, I just posted the link so that you can’t say I’m doing hawa baazi.

The "new media outlet" you have referred to is well known for posting fake news.

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The "new media outlet" you have referred to is well known for posting fake news.

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OpIndia is treated by some members of PDF as the fount of truthfulness and sensibility.

BTW how are you ? Long time no see.
 
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Muslim women in India were traumatised after finding their names and photographs up for auction on a mobile app.
You wake up one morning and find yourself being auctioned off with your pictures and details. Well, this is no historic tale on Slave Trade of Imperialism, but a grim reality depicting digital harassment of Muslim women in India.

One of the many disturbing arrays of misogyny, where photos of Muslim women especially students, activists, journalists, artists, researchers, etc. were uploaded by an unidentified extremist group on an application named “Sulli Deals” using GitHub on Sunday, July 4, with the sole purpose to auction off the Muslim women. The motto of the app says it's a ‘community-driven, open-source project.’ Once opened, the app would ask the user to click on ‘Find your Sulli Deal of the Day’. It would then randomly display a photo of an Indian Muslim woman most likely sourced from her social media account. ‘Sulli’ is a derogatory term used to refer to Muslim women by Hindutva extremists. The app came to light when these men started sharing their ‘deal of the day' on Twitter, and it has since been removed by GitHub (hosting platform, with a repository of open-source codes.)

This is far from the first time that Muslim women have to be vocal about constant harassment and rape threats by right-wing groups who align with India's Hindu nationalist ideology. In May, a YouTube channel ‘Liberal Doge Live’ whose real identity is reportedly Ritesh Jha, live-streamed the photos of Muslim women on the festival of Eid with a noxious description in Hindi that read: “Today, we will stalk women with our eyes filled with lust.”

The photos that he circulated, sexualised, and made vulgar comments and bids on belonged not only to Indian Muslim women but Pakistani women as well. Later, right-wing groups created a Twitter trend in support of the Youtuber, leaving the women in further discontent. There have been similar accounts of disgusting comments and derogatory songs for Kashmiri women when Article 370, special semi-autonomous status to the former state of Jammu & Kashmir, was revoked. This hate and objectification have been normalised over time with no action being taken repeatedly. And not just Muslim women have to do the labour to call out such disgusting manoeuvres, they are further told how it is their fault by the flagbearers of moral policing and even sent hateful slurs on social media platforms.

“This ‘Sulli Deals’ is not an isolated incident as it is rooted in the very anti-muslim ideology that advocates lynchings and rapes, present in Hindutva literature. It is all connected to a larger anti-muslim sentiment of the majority,” says Afreen Fatima, a student activist from Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) in New Delhi.


Selective outrage

A 21st-century example of targeted sexual violence against Muslim women is the 2002 Gujarat violence that stands out as one of the most vicious large scale and systematic sexual assaults against Indian Muslim women. According to Human Rights Watch, it included gang rapes, public stripping, ripping off body parts, insertion of objects into their bodies and burning them alive beyond recognition.

In light of recent events, the visuals of a ‘Hindu Mahapanchayat’ in the Pataudi town of Haryana state are doing rounds on social media. In it, the speakers at the congregation are calling for sexual violence and abduction of Muslim women. The audience responds with cheers and applause. In the gathering, a radicalised Hindu youth named Ram Bhakt Gopal says, "Kya tum Salma ko utha kar nahi laa sakte (Can you not abduct Salma)?" a reference to Muslims since Salma is a popular Muslim name for women.

The incident shines a light on an Islamophobic campaign called "Love Jihad" propagated by the Hindutva extremists. It means Muslim men lure Hindu women, entrap them in love and then convert them to Islam before turning them into "baby producing machines".

While the so-called Love Jihad was invented to target Muslim men, Sulli Deals is part of the wider Hindutva agenda to normalise the harassment and sexual assaults of Muslim women.

“It is not merely humiliating and mockery, but a precursor to physical violence, and if these perpetrators can collect data on Muslim women, what is to say they won't be able to gather addresses of at least a few when repeated calls have been made for abduction,” says Afreen Fatima, the JNU student activist among the many targeted Muslim women.

“Last time when I made a (police) complaint against ‘Liberal Doge Live’, my F.I.R (formal police investigation) was randomly closed. The online harassment of Muslim women is nothing new but this auctioning is disturbing to the core,” says Hasiba Amin, National Convenor of Social Media at the Indian National Congress, the leading opposition party of India. Hasiba is still hoping for strong legal actions this time.

Despite many legal complaints by these women as well as the National Commission for Women and Delhi Commission for Women, Indian Police have started investigating the incident, to which one of the women targeted via Sulli Deals, Pilot Hana Mohsin Khan says, “The Police have been kind to me when I made the complaint, I am hopeful they will put these men to account.”

It's been five days since the incident gained public attention. The police haven't made any breakthrough in the case yet.

A lot of the women whose pictures were up on the site are exasperated over the pin-drop silence of India's upper-class liberal voices. Unlike the times of an Instagram group chat with the name ‘Bois Locker Room’ created by teenagers from Southern Delhi (mostly schoolboys) as a matter of pleasure to objectify women with graphic sexual language, and when the screenshots were leaked by a woman who joined the group disguised as a boy, the incident saw a huge uproar on social media with #BoysLockerRoom remained among the top trends for several days. Whereas, silence over ‘Sulli Deal of the Day’ desolates Muslim women as they feel the country's progressive feminists and activists have taken a back seat on the systemic targeting of Muslim women.

Take the recent case of Safoora Zargar, a research student and activist from Jamia Millia Islamia, who was slandered and slut-shamed on social media by the Hindutva extremists, as she has been critical of the new Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) where Jamia Millia Islamia has been an epicentre of the anti-CAA Movement.

“Muslim women will always be seen as a Muslim first and woman later, being vocal on social media is so risky that you never know when and how you will be attacked again which is extremely frightening,” says Afreen Ali, a Delhi based social worker among the many targeted Muslim women who have been actively raising funds for Covid-19 patients. She adds, “I have always seen selective outrage when the victims are Muslims, threats of sexual violence and lynchings of our men are normalised to an extent where no one cares.”

As much as Indian Muslim women and activists are determined to fight everyday discrimination, they feel equally saddened by the progressive groups' lack of commitment to come up with a meaningful campaign against the sadist and misogynistic attacks Muslim women are facing in the country.
Waiting for the reaction of liberandus after it’s open that it was created by a Muslim himself.
 
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