Sukhoi has crashed

[Windjammer]

Well my friend before saying Flying coffin,this is 5th crash since 1997.Get yourself updated before posting here.

NEW DELHI: A Sukhoi-30-MKI - India's mainstay fighter jet - crashed 20 km from Pune this evening; fortunately, both pilots ejected safely from the plane which had taken off from the air force base in Pune for a training sortie.

The Sukhoi, which was first introduced in the Air Force in 1997, was for years considered a safe and reliable aircraft. Today's accident marks the fifth crash by a Sukhoi.

concerns about the reliability of the Sukhoi-30 MK1 have been accruing in recent months with several planes reporting engine failure.

India has 200 of these planes currently; another 70 jets have been ordered from the Russian manufacturer.

Based on recent complaints, the Air Force has started servicing the engines of these fighter jets after 700 flying hours, instead of the stipulated 1,000 hours. The Air Force says this hits its operations fairly hard- the servicing required is a lengthy process which leads to the plane being grounded for about a week.

As another precaution, the engines are also being modified according to specifications provided by the Russian manufacturer. That engineering is being handled in Odisha by HAL - Hindustan Aeronatuics Limited, which is a state-run company. The engine modifications will be carried out in batches over the next 18-24 months, said sources. They will then go through extensive testing before being fitted for the fleet.

Analysis by the Air Force shows that the Sukhoi's have been malfunctioning regularly since 2012. For the last four years, many of the fighter jets have been forced to make emergency landings using only one of the twin engines.

The Su-30MKI can fly at 2,400 kmph or achieve a rate of climb of 230 metres per second. The Sukhoi-30MKI are scattered across the country at bases including Bathinda, Jodhpur and Tanjavur in Tamil Nadu, where the planes are tasked to police the Bay of Bengal and Andaman Islands.

Today's Sukhoi Crash Highlights a Growing Concern for Air Force

 

[kaykay]

Are you sure about the numbers 200+ now or is this a much anticipated number which is said to be acquired by IAF till somewhere 2020. Some resource link would be appreciated.

Well Plan is to acquire 272 MKIs by 2017-2018. In march 2013, there were 194 MKIs in service so I am sure that now after 1.5 years figure must have crossed 200 and could be close to 210 or so.

Defence News - India May Expand Su-30MKI Order Beyond 272

 

[BDforever]

This is probably 5th crash of sukhoi in around 18 years.

Well Sukhois are in service for 18 years now and that too in great numbers(200+ ) so some crashes are inevitable. Even Typhoons and Rafales have crashed 4-5 times if not more.

actually it is 12 years. Introduction year is 2002

 

[duhastmish]

Iaf pilots are under trained.

These are very good aircraft.just see the number lost by China and Russia. Chinese mkk.

India need to teach pilot well before handing these expensive toys.

Yes and don't give me well trained and other unprepared numbers.
Rafael is too expensive to give to those idiots. Who must realise they are flying expensive aircraft which are bought at an extremely high amount. Which we sacrificed for safety of this country.

 

[Imran Khan]

Well Sukhois are in service for 18 years now and that too in great numbers(200+ ) so some crashes are inevitable. Even Typhoons and Rafales have crashed 4-5 times if not more.

tum log kabhi zindgi main ye desh bhagti thori der side per rakhty ho ?

September 27,2002 first SU-30 was inducted

 

[arp2041]

actually it is 12 years. Introduction year is 2002

MKIs were introduced in that year, IAF has sukhoi 30s since late 1990's (maybe since 1996).

 

[duhastmish]

tum log kabhi zindgi main ye desh bhagti thori der side per rakhty ho ?

September 27,2002 first SU-30 was inducted

Bhai . They are not desh bhakt they just want to have a point of view which won't match Pakistani.

Just for the bloody hack of it.

Bheege badam Kanyge to bheja chelega.

 

[cloud_9]

Wow! IAF keeping it classy.

The incompetent walk away,while the taxpayer is left with a million dollar bill.

 

[Imran Khan]

Bhai . They are not desh bhakt they just want to have a point of view which won't match Pakistani.

Just for the bloody hack of it.

Bheege badam Kanyge to bheja chelega.

main ne is forum per bhut kam log dekhy jo apny desh main bhi ghalti nikalty hain . most of them are blind defenders of good bad wrong worst of their countries feeling sorry for them they are not fully free they are slave of blind patriotism .

 

[Donatello]

The nozzles seem to be in a different direction. Perhaps the pilot was conducting a thrust vectoring move and engine flamed out resulting in plane going into stall instead of post-stall. my 2 bits of course no clue on official reason.

If that is true, then this is a serious flight issue. Afterall, TVC added for a reason, and you certainly don't want MKI losing flame during high agility maneuvers.

Secondly, it has two engines, so both the engines flaming out seems a bit hard, but let's wait for the official investigation. The fact that both the air crew ejected successfully and the plane pretty much belly crashed almost intact, the plane was probably not in a high G maneuver.

 

[BDforever]

MKIs were introduced in that year, IAF has sukhoi 30s since late 1990's (maybe since 1996).

we are talking about mki here, no ?

 

[arp2041]

we are talking about mki here, no ?

It's just the UPGRADED version of Sukhoi 30, no?

 

[pakdefender]

From the pictures it looks like villagers are all lining up to relieve themselves on the crashed Su-30 , villagers now have a new latrine

 

[BDforever]

It's just the UPGRADED version of Sukhoi 30, no?

but india does not have earlier version, no ?
are you implying that Russia started Su30 series since 1996, so we must consider the timeline from then ? not from when you started to introduce ?

 

[pakdefender]

Seems nose section has snapped off.

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The rivets , visible on the lower right part of the nose cone , look to be quite rusty .. almost looks like its been coroding for while