Featured Suga wins LDP election, in step to becoming Japan's prime minister

[Viet]

Japanese and Korean people are higher than you. How much money are you going to spend to bribe Americans to adopt your opinions instead of others?

We have no money bro. We will give Japan the hand of a friend instead.

 

[cgy]

We have no money bro. We will give Japan the hand of a friend instead.

So what are you going to use to show your kindness?
Serving the U.S. Navy?

Or will they be allowed to set up a military base on the land of your country as they did to Ryukyu?

在日米軍事件・事故２１万件超 １９５２年度以降　日本人１０９２人が犠牲
What Chairman Ho Chi Minh had been fighting for all his life was that Vietnamese men can stand and deal with Americans instead of kneeling. What he never married in his life is that Vietnamese girls don't have to sell their bodies to get some paltry income.
Tư tưởng Hồ Chí Minh

Now you decide to invite the United States to do this to you? They don't even have to pay.Are you going to subsidize their expenses like Poland?Even the Indians with an IQ of 76 and famous for raping and gang rape are not so shameless. Are you going to show the world that Vietnamese are not even as tough as Indians?
Poland offers up to $2 billion for a permanent US military presence

Do you still think of yourself as Vietnamese? Or do you think you're a German and don't care about the dignity of Vietnam?

 

[Viet]

So what are you going to use to show your kindness?
Serving the U.S. Navy?
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Or will they be allowed to set up a military base on the land of your country as they did to Ryukyu?
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在日米軍事件・事故２１万件超 １９５２年度以降　日本人１０９２人が犠牲
What Chairman Ho Chi Minh had been fighting for all his life was that Vietnamese men can stand and deal with Americans instead of kneeling. What he never married in his life is that Vietnamese girls don't have to sell their bodies to get some paltry income.
Tư tưởng Hồ Chí Minh
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Now you decide to invite the United States to do this to you? They don't even have to pay.Are you going to subsidize their expenses like Poland?Even the Indians with an IQ of 76 and famous for raping and gang rape are not so shameless. Are you going to show the world that Vietnamese are not even as tough as Indians?
Poland offers up to $2 billion for a permanent US military presence
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Do you still think of yourself as Vietnamese? Or do you think you're a German and don't care about the dignity of Vietnam?

The second pic you posted aren’t they chinese girls? Come on, you know how to solve the problem. if you give up the dashed lines today all problem will disappear tomorrow. Please don’t complain. you are the one that invited the US back to Asia.

 

[Place Of Space]

Our biggest asset is Iq.

Serious? You make all Vietnamese are very embarrassed you know.

 

[cgy]

The second pic you posted aren’t they chinese girls? Come on, you know how to solve the problem. if you give up the dashed lines today all problem will disappear tomorrow. Please don’t complain. you are the one that invited the US back to Asia.

Because the woman in the second picture doesn't wear ao dai, so you don't recognize her as Vietnamese, do you? I'll change some more Vietnamese ones.

With regard to the South China Sea, I just want to state the following points.

1: Judging from the ancient history, the South China Sea was occupied by the general of China at that time from the Western Zhou Dynasty, and the tribes of the South China Sea expressed their submission to the Western Zhou Dynasty. Since then, the South China Sea was incorporated into China's territory. At that time, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei did not exist at all.

In the Western Han Dynasty, the Chinese formally established local governments (zhuya and daner counties) in the South China Sea and declared sovereignty over a group of coral islands and reefs. In the eighteen years (42 AD) of the Eastern Han Dynasty, Fu Bo General Ma Yuan had been to "thousands of miles of Changsha" during the southern expedition, that is, the Paracel Islands. According to the cultural relics unearthed from Mawangdui Han tomb in Changsha in 1973, the South China Sea area first appeared on the Chinese topographic map of Han Dynasty, which is also the evidence that this sea area was officially owned by a country in history.

2: Judging from modern history, during the Second World War, Japan launched a war of aggression against China and occupied most of the South China Sea. The Cairo Declaration, the Potsdam Proclamation and other international documents clearly stipulate that the Chinese territory stolen by Japan should be returned to China. In December 1946, the government of the Republic of China appointed senior officials to the Spratly Islands to receive a reception ceremony on the island to send troops to garrison. In 1951, the Chinese government stated in the Declaration on the United States, Britain and Japan on the peace treaty and the San Francisco conference, "the sovereignty of Paracel Islands and Spratly Islands is the same as the entire Dongsha Islands and the China Sand Islands, and has been China's territory since ancient times." It has been publicly recognized by a large number of governments including the Vietnamese government and the resolutions of international conferences. Therefore, there was no so-called "South China Sea issue" in the long period after the war, and no country in the South China Sea region had raised any objection to China's exercise of sovereignty over the Spratly Islands and its adjacent waters. The Japanese government formally stated in 1952 that it "gave up all rights, names and demands on Taiwan, Penghu islands, Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands" and handed over the South China Sea to China.

3: If you don't recognize legal means, then wait for military means. If you win, the South China Sea will naturally be under your control. If you lose, including your countries, all belong to China. Anyway, Vietnam has belonged to China for more than a thousand years. This is just a return to the normal in history.


If you give up those claims that go against the facts today, all the problems in the South China Sea will disappear tomorrow. China was too kind in the past. It was you who broke your promises and created conflicts. Therefore, you should be fully responsible for any problems that occur in the future.

 

[Viet]

Because the woman in the second picture doesn't wear ao dai, so you don't recognize her as Vietnamese, do you? I'll change some more Vietnamese ones.
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With regard to the South China Sea, I just want to state the following points.

1: Judging from the ancient history, the South China Sea was occupied by the general of China at that time from the Western Zhou Dynasty, and the tribes of the South China Sea expressed their submission to the Western Zhou Dynasty. Since then, the South China Sea was incorporated into China's territory. At that time, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei did not exist at all.

In the Western Han Dynasty, the Chinese formally established local governments (zhuya and daner counties) in the South China Sea and declared sovereignty over a group of coral islands and reefs. In the eighteen years (42 AD) of the Eastern Han Dynasty, Fu Bo General Ma Yuan had been to "thousands of miles of Changsha" during the southern expedition, that is, the Paracel Islands. According to the cultural relics unearthed from Mawangdui Han tomb in Changsha in 1973, the South China Sea area first appeared on the Chinese topographic map of Han Dynasty, which is also the evidence that this sea area was officially owned by a country in history.

2: Judging from modern history, during the Second World War, Japan launched a war of aggression against China and occupied most of the South China Sea. The Cairo Declaration, the Potsdam Proclamation and other international documents clearly stipulate that the Chinese territory stolen by Japan should be returned to China. In December 1946, the government of the Republic of China appointed senior officials to the Spratly Islands to receive a reception ceremony on the island to send troops to garrison. In 1951, the Chinese government stated in the Declaration on the United States, Britain and Japan on the peace treaty and the San Francisco conference, "the sovereignty of Paracel Islands and Spratly Islands is the same as the entire Dongsha Islands and the China Sand Islands, and has been China's territory since ancient times." It has been publicly recognized by a large number of governments including the Vietnamese government and the resolutions of international conferences. Therefore, there was no so-called "South China Sea issue" in the long period after the war, and no country in the South China Sea region had raised any objection to China's exercise of sovereignty over the Spratly Islands and its adjacent waters. The Japanese government formally stated in 1952 that it "gave up all rights, names and demands on Taiwan, Penghu islands, Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands" and handed over the South China Sea to China.

3: If you don't recognize legal means, then wait for military means. If you win, the South China Sea will naturally be under your control. If you lose, including your countries, all belong to China. Anyway, Vietnam has belonged to China for more than a thousand years. This is just a return to the normal in history.


If you give up those claims that go against the facts today, all the problems in the South China Sea will disappear tomorrow. China was too kind in the past. It was you who broke your promises and created conflicts. Therefore, you should be fully responsible for any problems that occur in the future.

Since the Zhou? Are you serious?
By this logic Italy can claim Germany as part of Rome empire. Ok we had been part of the Han Chinese. But that’s another story. The pics you posted could be similar in China during Japan’s occupation, bro.

 

[cgy]

Since the Zhou? Are you serious?
By this logic Italy can claim Germany as part of Rome empire. Ok we had been part of the Han Chinese. But that’s another story. The pics you posted could be similar in China during Japan’s occupation, bro.

Judging from the ancient history, tThe South China Sea was occupied by the general of China at that time from the Western Zhou Dynasty, and the tribes of the South China Sea expressed their submission to the Western Zhou Dynasty.

Pay attention to the details. What I want to express in this passage is that China was the first to have sovereignty over the South China Sea, which came from the submission of the South China Sea tribes at that time.

Judging from modern history, during the Second World War, Japan launched a war of aggression against China and occupied most of the South China Sea.The Japanese government formally stated in 1952 that it "gave up all rights, names and demands on Taiwan, Penghu islands, Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands" and handed over the South China Sea to China.

What I want to express is that in the Second World War, the territorial sovereignty of any country will change according to the situation of the war. With the end of the Second World War, the country that finally obtained sovereignty over the South China Sea through war and international negotiations is China.

In the Second World War, many women in China, North Korea, South Korea, Japan and Southeast Asia were forced to become prostitutes, which is also one of the Japanese criminal evidence. The act of inviting the U.S. garrison now is to allow the tragedy of the last century (which still exists in Ryukyu today) to continue in your homeland.

 

[Viet]

Judging from the ancient history, tThe South China Sea was occupied by the general of China at that time from the Western Zhou Dynasty, and the tribes of the South China Sea expressed their submission to the Western Zhou Dynasty.

Pay attention to the details. What I want to express in this passage is that China was the first to have sovereignty over the South China Sea, which came from the submission of the South China Sea tribes at that time.

Judging from modern history, during the Second World War, Japan launched a war of aggression against China and occupied most of the South China Sea.The Japanese government formally stated in 1952 that it "gave up all rights, names and demands on Taiwan, Penghu islands, Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands" and handed over the South China Sea to China.

What I want to express is that in the Second World War, the territorial sovereignty of any country will change according to the situation of the war. With the end of the Second World War, the country that finally obtained sovereignty over the South China Sea through war and international negotiations is China.

In the Second World War, many women in China, North Korea, South Korea, Japan and Southeast Asia were forced to become prostitutes, which is also one of the Japanese criminal evidence. The act of inviting the U.S. garrison now is to allow the tragedy of the last century (which still exists in Ryukyu today) to continue in your homeland.

There is no ancient history in the international law. everyone can say every bullshit his forefathers his foremothers were there. That means nothing.

 

[cgy]

There is no ancient history in the international law. everyone can say every bullshit his forefathers his foremothers were there. That means nothing.

The latest legal document on the sovereignty of the South China Sea with the effect of international law is
《Treaty of Peace with Japan》

Article 2

(b) Japan renounces all right, title and claim to Formosa and the Pescadores.

(c) Japan renounces all right, title and claim to the Kurile Islands, and to that portion of Sakhalin and the islands adjacent to it over which Japan acquired sovereignty as a consequence of the Treaty of Portsmouth of 5 September 1905.

(d) Japan renounces all right, title and claim in connection with the League of Nations Mandate System, and accepts the action of the United Nations Security Council of 2 April 1947, extending the trusteeship system to the Pacific Islands formerly under mandate to Japan.

(e) Japan renounces all claim to any right or title to or interest in connection with any part of the Antarctic area, whether deriving from the activities of Japanese nationals or otherwise.

(f) Japan renounces all right, title and claim to the Spratly Islands and to the Paracel Islands.


Before the Second World War, China had sovereignty over the South China Sea. In the Second World War, Japan occupied the sea and islands. After Japan's defeat, China regained sovereignty over the sea and islands as part of the Allied forces.

Now tell me, is Vietnam the main force of the allies? If not, what qualifications do you have to grab China's booty? As I said before, according to the international law, this sea and island belong to China. If you Vietnam does not obey the international law, you should fight with China. If you win China, the South China Sea will be yours. If you lose, China will occupy Vietnam. I think that if a country like Vietnam, which provokes international disputes, only gives up its illegal claim after losing the war, it is really unfair for the victorious countries. This sea area is about 3.5 million square kilometers, and Vietnam's national area is only 329000 square kilometers. Since Vietnam wants to occupy an ocean ten times larger than Vietnam's area, it is very kind of China to ask Vietnam to pay all its land after your failure.What do you think?

 

[Viet]

The latest legal document on the sovereignty of the South China Sea with the effect of international law is
《Treaty of Peace with Japan》

Article 2

(b) Japan renounces all right, title and claim to Formosa and the Pescadores.

(c) Japan renounces all right, title and claim to the Kurile Islands, and to that portion of Sakhalin and the islands adjacent to it over which Japan acquired sovereignty as a consequence of the Treaty of Portsmouth of 5 September 1905.

(d) Japan renounces all right, title and claim in connection with the League of Nations Mandate System, and accepts the action of the United Nations Security Council of 2 April 1947, extending the trusteeship system to the Pacific Islands formerly under mandate to Japan.

(e) Japan renounces all claim to any right or title to or interest in connection with any part of the Antarctic area, whether deriving from the activities of Japanese nationals or otherwise.

(f) Japan renounces all right, title and claim to the Spratly Islands and to the Paracel Islands.


Before the Second World War, China had sovereignty over the South China Sea. In the Second World War, Japan occupied the sea and islands. After Japan's defeat, China regained sovereignty over the sea and islands as part of the Allied forces.

Now tell me, is Vietnam the main force of the allies? If not, what qualifications do you have to grab China's booty? As I said before, according to the international law, this sea and island belong to China. If you Vietnam does not obey the international law, you should fight with China. If you win China, the South China Sea will be yours. If you lose, China will occupy Vietnam. I think that if a country like Vietnam, which provokes international disputes, only gives up its illegal claim after losing the war, it is really unfair for the victorious countries. This sea area is about 3.5 million square kilometers, and Vietnam's national area is only 329000 square kilometers. Since Vietnam wants to occupy an ocean ten times larger than Vietnam's area, it is very kind of China to ask Vietnam to pay all its land after your failure.What do you think?

Relax no need to shout in big letters
In no document it is mentioned nor stated the islands should return to China.
You held no sovereignty over the islands. Pls don’t lie. You don’t know the meaning of it.

 

[Feng Leng]

US will force Japan to buy more US treasuries now that China is selling off its US treasuries.

Japan will become poorer and poorer as a result.

Japan is quickly becoming irrelevant except as a military base for US operations in the Pacific.

 

[Suika]

Judging from the ancient history, tThe South China Sea was occupied by the general of China at that time from the Western Zhou Dynasty, and the tribes of the South China Sea expressed their submission to the Western Zhou Dynasty.

Pay attention to the details. What I want to express in this passage is that China was the first to have sovereignty over the South China Sea, which came from the submission of the South China Sea tribes at that time.

Judging from modern history, during the Second World War, Japan launched a war of aggression against China and occupied most of the South China Sea.The Japanese government formally stated in 1952 that it "gave up all rights, names and demands on Taiwan, Penghu islands, Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands" and handed over the South China Sea to China.

What I want to express is that in the Second World War, the territorial sovereignty of any country will change according to the situation of the war. With the end of the Second World War, the country that finally obtained sovereignty over the South China Sea through war and international negotiations is China.

In the Second World War, many women in China, North Korea, South Korea, Japan and Southeast Asia were forced to become prostitutes, which is also one of the Japanese criminal evidence. The act of inviting the U.S. garrison now is to allow the tragedy of the last century (which still exists in Ryukyu today) to continue in your homeland.

"Japan launched aggressive war" is an exaggeration.

During the late 1910s and 1920s, Manchuria was run by the Fangtian Clique. And Japan supported this clique. The Fangtian Clique formed a natural buffer with the Soviet Union. Japan signed up to the 9 power treaty to respect "China"s borders. So what with the Fangian Clique? They fought in the Chinese Civil War during the warlord era, suffered some major defeats after the leader tried to seize Beijieng. The economy went bad under bad economic policy by the leader. The chief economy advisor abandoned the Fangtian Clique. It completely fell apart by 1928. Seeing an opening, the Soviet Union made some attacks on the remnants in order to reestablish control of a Russian built railway that went across Manchuria from the northwest down to the southeast where Vladivostok was. The KMT was busy in the main body of China proper and so lend no assistance at all against the Soviet excursion. Mind you, it was only 4 years early, in 1925, that the Soviet Union set up a puppet communist regime in Mongolia. So while Japan is sitting there, complying with the 9 power treaty to keep the other western powers happy, the Soviet Union is expanding its influence into the area. The Soviet Union wasn't a signatory of the 9 power treaty either by the way. They inserted Chinese communist into China which had to be incorporated into the KMT as part of agreement for getting Soviet aid. A time when the Soviet Comintern was announcing intentions to spread communism all over the world. When all this mentioned, it really doesn't look so surprising that the Japanese would decide to take Manchuria for themselves then. And the invasion of Manchuria was carried out with about only 50,000 troops. Manchuria is a huge area, all taken with just 50,000. Not many casualties on either side really either. And despite the invasion happening 3 years after the total collapse of the Fangtian economy, KMT never moved in. 2 years after the Soviet attack on Manchuria in 1929, no KMT assistance. And again, no KMT assistance when the Japanese invaded. Face it, Manchuria was a sitting duck. Saying all this doesn't go as far as saying Japan was in the right to invade it. But to go as far as saying it was the wrong thing to do as if it was something uniquely "aggressive" in that setting, after all is known, seems kind of exaggerated now doesn't it. With all the colonial activities going on in Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, India, the Middle East, all over Africa, was the Japnese invasion of Manchuria really that bad? Give me a break. What made it "bad" was that it meant possibly a stronger Japan while the countries that have made it on top of the hill (US, Great Britain, lesser extent France and Russia) didn't want more competition so that is why it gets called "bad" and "aggressive" as if the others did nothing of the sort themselves.

The run up to the start of the second Sino-Japanese war in 1937 was also not so one sided on Japan's fault. The KMT and Chinese communists were busy with their civil war, the great march gets going in 1925, finishes up by Spring 1936, a KMT general makes a secret pact with he Chinese communists in summer 1936 and makes do on that pact by December 1936 in what was called the Xi'an incident in which Chinag Kai-shek's generals kidnapped him and took him before the Chinese communists in order to force Chinag Kai-shek to stop the fight against the Chinese communists under slogans like "Chinese don't fight Chinese" and to instead change focus on starting a war against Japan. Remember, this was December 1936. What Japanese invasion was taking place? There was no major war going on. There was some Japanese activities using collaborators to setup friendly Chinese governance in the border areas around Manchuria. That's it. Chiang Kai-shek was very busy in trying to modernize his forces, getting much advice and equipment from the Germans. He of course did want to get Manchuria when he was ready. But he wanted to finish the communist problem first. So he was forced into stopping the campaign against the communist and started preparing for war against Japan. Does this really sound like an intention for an all out sudden invasion to conquer China by Japan? 7 months later, Chinese and Japanese squabbles happen, the Chinese shoot first at the Marco Polo bridge, thus begins increased hostilities in the northern area. While further south in Shanghai, the Chinese moved their soldiers into Shanghai which was violation of international agreements there. I don't really fault them. So don't get me wrong. The Japanese demanded the Chinese NRA to leave the international area in Shanghai. The Chinese refused. The Chinese then attacked the Japanese positions first and they were the first to go as far as using aircraft to bomb Japanese buildings there, although apparently with some friendly fire bombing. The Chinese strategy was to push the Japanese out soon enough with advantage of surprise to be quick enough about it to prevent enough time for Japanese reinforcements. Japan made the decision to push to Nanjing because they figured the Chinese were not going to stop. Afterall, Chiang Kai-shek wanted to get Manchuria in the end of it all. So total war has been started, so here it goes, the march towards Nanjing. So after all that is put out, was it really entirely a Japanese plan and sudden invasion into China? No not really. What really seemed to have happened is that the corrupt KMT was struggling to finish off the Chinese communists after the long march and the Chinese communist successfully diverted KMT attention to Japan. The Chinese communist didn't help very much against Japan. Just enough to use as propaganda tool for their recruitment campaign as KMT bleeds in doing the bulk of the fighting.

Actually when you think about it.. CKS pushing along together with the US for the total disarmament and dismantling of Imperial Japan was exactly what implanted the US deeply into this region, the very thing that now you pro-CCP posters want to reverse. Funny that

 

[cgy]

Relax no need to shout in big letters
In no document it is mentioned nor stated the islands should return to China.
You held no sovereignty over the islands. Pls don’t lie. You don’t know the meaning of it.

Before World War II, China had sovereignty over the South China Sea. During the Second World War, Japan occupied the South China Sea. After World War II, Japan acknowledged defeat and surrendered sovereignty over the South China Sea and its islands. As the main force in the Far East, China regained sovereignty over these areas and oceans. It's hard for you to understand, right? What help did you Vietnam provide to resist the Japanese fascist regime? Who gives you the courage to snatch China's booty?



If you want to reason with us, the historical facts now prove that your Vietnamese claim for sovereignty over the South China Sea comes from fantasy. If you don't want to be reasonable but ready to use force, be prepared to fight a maritime war with China. If you win, the South China Sea belongs to you. If you lose, all the territory of Vietnam belongs to China. It's so simple.

 

[cgy]

"Japan launched aggressive war" is an exaggeration.

During the late 1910s and 1920s, Manchuria was run by the Fangtian Clique. And Japan supported this clique. The Fangtian Clique formed a natural buffer with the Soviet Union. Japan signed up to the 9 power treaty to respect "China"s borders. So what with the Fangian Clique? They fought in the Chinese Civil War during the warlord era, suffered some major defeats after the leader tried to seize Beijieng. The economy went bad under bad economic policy by the leader. The chief economy advisor abandoned the Fangtian Clique. It completely fell apart by 1928. Seeing an opening, the Soviet Union made some attacks on the remnants in order to reestablish control of a Russian built railway that went across Manchuria from the northwest down to the southeast where Vladivostok was. The KMT was busy in the main body of China proper and so lend no assistance at all against the Soviet excursion. Mind you, it was only 4 years early, in 1925, that the Soviet Union set up a puppet communist regime in Mongolia. So while Japan is sitting there, complying with the 9 power treaty to keep the other western powers happy, the Soviet Union is expanding its influence into the area. The Soviet Union wasn't a signatory of the 9 power treaty either by the way. They inserted Chinese communist into China which had to be incorporated into the KMT as part of agreement for getting Soviet aid. A time when the Soviet Comintern was announcing intentions to spread communism all over the world. When all this mentioned, it really doesn't look so surprising that the Japanese would decide to take Manchuria for themselves then. And the invasion of Manchuria was carried out with about only 50,000 troops. Manchuria is a huge area, all taken with just 50,000. Not many casualties on either side really either. And despite the invasion happening 3 years after the total collapse of the Fangtian economy, KMT never moved in. 2 years after the Soviet attack on Manchuria in 1929, no KMT assistance. And again, no KMT assistance when the Japanese invaded. Face it, Manchuria was a sitting duck. Saying all this doesn't go as far as saying Japan was in the right to invade it. But to go as far as saying it was the wrong thing to do as if it was something uniquely "aggressive" in that setting, after all is known, seems kind of exaggerated now doesn't it. With all the colonial activities going on in Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, India, the Middle East, all over Africa, was the Japnese invasion of Manchuria really that bad? Give me a break. What made it "bad" was that it meant possibly a stronger Japan while the countries that have made it on top of the hill (US, Great Britain, lesser extent France and Russia) didn't want more competition so that is why it gets called "bad" and "aggressive" as if the others did nothing of the sort themselves.

The run up to the start of the second Sino-Japanese war in 1937 was also not so one sided on Japan's fault. The KMT and Chinese communists were busy with their civil war, the great march gets going in 1925, finishes up by Spring 1936, a KMT general makes a secret pact with he Chinese communists in summer 1936 and makes do on that pact by December 1936 in what was called the Xi'an incident in which Chinag Kai-shek's generals kidnapped him and took him before the Chinese communists in order to force Chinag Kai-shek to stop the fight against the Chinese communists under slogans like "Chinese don't fight Chinese" and to instead change focus on starting a war against Japan. Remember, this was December 1936. What Japanese invasion was taking place? There was no major war going on. There was some Japanese activities using collaborators to setup friendly Chinese governance in the border areas around Manchuria. That's it. Chiang Kai-shek was very busy in trying to modernize his forces, getting much advice and equipment from the Germans. He of course did want to get Manchuria when he was ready. But he wanted to finish the communist problem first. So he was forced into stopping the campaign against the communist and started preparing for war against Japan. Does this really sound like an intention for an all out sudden invasion to conquer China by Japan? 7 months later, Chinese and Japanese squabbles happen, the Chinese shoot first at the Marco Polo bridge, thus begins increased hostilities in the northern area. While further south in Shanghai, the Chinese moved their soldiers into Shanghai which was violation of international agreements there. I don't really fault them. So don't get me wrong. The Japanese demanded the Chinese NRA to leave the international area in Shanghai. The Chinese refused. The Chinese then attacked the Japanese positions first and they were the first to go as far as using aircraft to bomb Japanese buildings there, although apparently with some friendly fire bombing. The Chinese strategy was to push the Japanese out soon enough with advantage of surprise to be quick enough about it to prevent enough time for Japanese reinforcements. Japan made the decision to push to Nanjing because they figured the Chinese were not going to stop. Afterall, Chiang Kai-shek wanted to get Manchuria in the end of it all. So total war has been started, so here it goes, the march towards Nanjing. So after all that is put out, was it really entirely a Japanese plan and sudden invasion into China? No not really. What really seemed to have happened is that the corrupt KMT was struggling to finish off the Chinese communists after the long march and the Chinese communist successfully diverted KMT attention to Japan. The Chinese communist didn't help very much against Japan. Just enough to use as propaganda tool for their recruitment campaign as KMT bleeds in doing the bulk of the fighting.

Actually when you think about it.. CKS pushing along together with the US for the total disarmament and dismantling of Imperial Japan was exactly what implanted the US deeply into this region, the very thing that now you pro-CCP posters want to reverse. Funny that

An Indian with an IQ of 76 is not qualified to discuss World War II. The fact that the Indians who served as dogs to Japanese Nazis were not cleared after the war does not mean that we Chinese have forgotten. If you dare to start a war, try to see how long it will take us to hit New Delhi with the hydrogen bomb.

 

[Feng Leng]

"Japan launched aggressive war" is an exaggeration.

During the late 1910s and 1920s, Manchuria was run by the Fangtian Clique. And Japan supported this clique. The Fangtian Clique formed a natural buffer with the Soviet Union. Japan signed up to the 9 power treaty to respect "China"s borders. So what with the Fangian Clique? They fought in the Chinese Civil War during the warlord era, suffered some major defeats after the leader tried to seize Beijieng. The economy went bad under bad economic policy by the leader. The chief economy advisor abandoned the Fangtian Clique. It completely fell apart by 1928. Seeing an opening, the Soviet Union made some attacks on the remnants in order to reestablish control of a Russian built railway that went across Manchuria from the northwest down to the southeast where Vladivostok was. The KMT was busy in the main body of China proper and so lend no assistance at all against the Soviet excursion. Mind you, it was only 4 years early, in 1925, that the Soviet Union set up a puppet communist regime in Mongolia. So while Japan is sitting there, complying with the 9 power treaty to keep the other western powers happy, the Soviet Union is expanding its influence into the area. The Soviet Union wasn't a signatory of the 9 power treaty either by the way. They inserted Chinese communist into China which had to be incorporated into the KMT as part of agreement for getting Soviet aid. A time when the Soviet Comintern was announcing intentions to spread communism all over the world. When all this mentioned, it really doesn't look so surprising that the Japanese would decide to take Manchuria for themselves then. And the invasion of Manchuria was carried out with about only 50,000 troops. Manchuria is a huge area, all taken with just 50,000. Not many casualties on either side really either. And despite the invasion happening 3 years after the total collapse of the Fangtian economy, KMT never moved in. 2 years after the Soviet attack on Manchuria in 1929, no KMT assistance. And again, no KMT assistance when the Japanese invaded. Face it, Manchuria was a sitting duck. Saying all this doesn't go as far as saying Japan was in the right to invade it. But to go as far as saying it was the wrong thing to do as if it was something uniquely "aggressive" in that setting, after all is known, seems kind of exaggerated now doesn't it. With all the colonial activities going on in Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, India, the Middle East, all over Africa, was the Japnese invasion of Manchuria really that bad? Give me a break. What made it "bad" was that it meant possibly a stronger Japan while the countries that have made it on top of the hill (US, Great Britain, lesser extent France and Russia) didn't want more competition so that is why it gets called "bad" and "aggressive" as if the others did nothing of the sort themselves.

The run up to the start of the second Sino-Japanese war in 1937 was also not so one sided on Japan's fault. The KMT and Chinese communists were busy with their civil war, the great march gets going in 1925, finishes up by Spring 1936, a KMT general makes a secret pact with he Chinese communists in summer 1936 and makes do on that pact by December 1936 in what was called the Xi'an incident in which Chinag Kai-shek's generals kidnapped him and took him before the Chinese communists in order to force Chinag Kai-shek to stop the fight against the Chinese communists under slogans like "Chinese don't fight Chinese" and to instead change focus on starting a war against Japan. Remember, this was December 1936. What Japanese invasion was taking place? There was no major war going on. There was some Japanese activities using collaborators to setup friendly Chinese governance in the border areas around Manchuria. That's it. Chiang Kai-shek was very busy in trying to modernize his forces, getting much advice and equipment from the Germans. He of course did want to get Manchuria when he was ready. But he wanted to finish the communist problem first. So he was forced into stopping the campaign against the communist and started preparing for war against Japan. Does this really sound like an intention for an all out sudden invasion to conquer China by Japan? 7 months later, Chinese and Japanese squabbles happen, the Chinese shoot first at the Marco Polo bridge, thus begins increased hostilities in the northern area. While further south in Shanghai, the Chinese moved their soldiers into Shanghai which was violation of international agreements there. I don't really fault them. So don't get me wrong. The Japanese demanded the Chinese NRA to leave the international area in Shanghai. The Chinese refused. The Chinese then attacked the Japanese positions first and they were the first to go as far as using aircraft to bomb Japanese buildings there, although apparently with some friendly fire bombing. The Chinese strategy was to push the Japanese out soon enough with advantage of surprise to be quick enough about it to prevent enough time for Japanese reinforcements. Japan made the decision to push to Nanjing because they figured the Chinese were not going to stop. Afterall, Chiang Kai-shek wanted to get Manchuria in the end of it all. So total war has been started, so here it goes, the march towards Nanjing. So after all that is put out, was it really entirely a Japanese plan and sudden invasion into China? No not really. What really seemed to have happened is that the corrupt KMT was struggling to finish off the Chinese communists after the long march and the Chinese communist successfully diverted KMT attention to Japan. The Chinese communist didn't help very much against Japan. Just enough to use as propaganda tool for their recruitment campaign as KMT bleeds in doing the bulk of the fighting.

Actually when you think about it.. CKS pushing along together with the US for the total disarmament and dismantling of Imperial Japan was exactly what implanted the US deeply into this region, the very thing that now you pro-CCP posters want to reverse. Funny that

Japan in 1930 was not that much different from China in 2020. Both wanted to kick the foreign powers out of East Asia. The main differences are:

1) Japanese people are more culturally warlike while Chinese people are more peaceful

2) Japanese are more racist while Chinese are more tolerant

3) Japanese liked a strategic gamble while Chinese are strategically patient

In short, PRC in 2020 is a more peaceful, more tolerant and more strategically patient version of 1930s Imperial Japan, but with the same goal of establishing hegemony over East Asia.