Su-30MKI - Super Sukhoi Upgrade Program.

[GuardianRED]

I take it you mean a paper based article, GuardianR mate?

If so, the old school way is taking a picture of each page with the text big and clear enough
or to find a modern computer printer. Those have scanning possibilities and proper software
will even allow you to read the characters off the print and make it a text based document.

There is an even older trick to be sure and that is to type in the words you read on your keyboard
with your own 2 pretty agile little indexes. I think it's called a transcript and it's a drag but it works!

Tay.

Lol... should have mentioned that i have the e-book version for "combat aircraft monthly"-july issue, and there is an article for Red flag.... trying to convert it to pics , so lets see

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[Taygibay]

Nope, check :

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You do not have permission to view media within this album.

https://defence.pk/media/16986/#ixzz4GGlmLlUj

You should check your sharing preferences in your profile/account.

Read you later, mate, Tay.

 

[GuardianRED]

Nope, check :

Pakistan Defence - Error
You do not have permission to view media within this album.

https://defence.pk/media/16986/#ixzz4GGlmLlUj

You should check your sharing preferences in your profile/account.

Read you later, mate, Tay.

try again

 

[Taygibay]

No need, I can see the images in your post now!

I'll read it later, have fun, Tay.

 

[randomradio]

Lol... should have mentioned that i have the e-book version for "combat aircraft monthly"-july issue, and there is an article for Red flag.... trying to convert it to pics , so lets see

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Good to know there were at least 6 F-22s participating.

 

[The Eagle]

@waz

Sir, a thread based upon news regarding similar subject is created separately, need to be merged here. Thanks.

https://defence.pk/threads/india-ne...kis-to-super-sukhoi-standards-for-8bn.441750/

 

[#hydra#]

How our mki perform against f15,there is no point in comparison between mki and other teen series fighters.

 

[kaykay]

http://www.defencenews.in/article/India,-Russia-make-progress-in-talks-on-Su-30-MKI-upgrade-7526

 

[ashok321]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...s-in-talks-on-su30-upgrade/article8991493.ece

— file photo: V. Sudershan
An IAF Su-30 aircraft

India and Russia made significant progress in the discussions for modernisation of all Su-30 fighters of the Indian Air Force (IAF) during the visit of a Russian team last month. An agreement is possible by the year-end, senior officials say.

“Discussions were held last month, and significant ground was covered. We hope to conclude the deal soon,” a top official told The Hindu.

The upgrade will give the fight jets new avionics and radar, improved stealth characteristics to reduce the radar cross-section, better electronic warfare capability and new weapons. Though the quantum of the deal is not finalised, some officials said it could be in the range of $7-8 billion.

Su-30 are the most modern fighters and the main stay of the IAF. Given the delay in procurement of new fighters, they are crucial for maintaining the combat edge of the IAF. Discussions had been under way for some time for upgrading the aircraft to what was called ‘Super Sukhoi’, but the talks gained momentum recently. “There is nothing called Super Sukhoi, but we have been discussing the upgrade of Su-30 to comprehensively improve their capabilities. Some progress has been made, and we are trying to finalise the technical specifications of the upgrade,” a senior IAF officer said.

India had signed the initial agreement with Russia in the late 1990s for procuring 50 Su-30 multi-role fighter jets in a fly-away condition.


Then, it ordered 272 Su-30MKI fighter jets to be made by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) at Nasik. Most of the aircraft to be made by HAL have been delivered, and the entire lot of 222 aircraft is expected to be completed in the next couple of years. The HAL has a production rate of 10-12 aircraft a year.

No progress on FGFA
This comes in the backdrop of the delay in concluding the final agreement for the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) to be developed by India and Russia, besides the delay in concluding an agreement for the purchase of the Rafale fighter jets and in the induction of the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft.

A preliminary design agreement was signed in 2010 between HAL and Russia’s Sukhoi Design Bureau to make the FGFA for use by both countries. So far, both sides have invested $295 million in the preliminary design. However, the final agreement got stuck because of the disagreements over the work share and investment. Several rounds of talks have been held, but there has been no progress.

“The FGFA is a long project. It will take some time,” one officer said.

 

[Gregor Clegane]

The upgrade will give the fight jets new avionics and radar, improved stealth characteristics to reduce the radar cross-section, better electronic warfare capability and new weapons.

 

[kaykay]

So upgrade is all about new avionics and radar, new weapons, improved stealth characteristics, improved EW suite......but it says nothing on engine front....any change in engines like uprating the current ones? or nothing at all.

 

[Aero]

So upgrade is all about new avionics and radar, new weapons, improved stealth characteristics, improved EW suite......but it says nothing on engine front....any change in engines like uprating the current ones? or nothing at all.

They will have to replace engines with new one if Trust increases from new one, then it may go on for testing again.
However if reliability of engines can e improved then it should be there.

Best will be improving common failing parts with better one and asking Russia to allow india to produce spares for jets, this way readiness can be increse > 70% for MKIs.

 

[kaykay]

They will have to replace engines with new one if Trust increases from new one, then it may go on for testing again.
However if reliability of engines can e improved then it should be there.

Best will be improving common failing parts with better one and asking Russia to allow india to produce spares for jets, this way readiness can be increse > 70% for MKIs.

I think engine issues are sorted out since last year now.... availability rate is also significantly increased and they keep trying to improve. My question was whether current engines would br uprated? Earlier it was reported that current engines would be uprated but nothing of that sort coming out in recent reports.

 

[Aero]

I think engine issues are sorted out since last year now.... availability rate is also significantly increased and they keep trying to improve. My question was whether current engines would br uprated? Earlier it was reported that current engines would be uprated but nothing of that sort coming out in recent reports.

But if they change engines + (Avionics + New Radar system, Stealth Coating or changes in plane)
It may qualify as a new variant or plane in that case & will likely require testing.

More Thrust means strengthening of frame will likely be needed.

 

[kaykay]

But if they change engines + (Avionics + New Radar system, Stealth Coating or changes in plane)
It may qualify as a new variant or plane in that case & will likely require testing.

More Thrust means strengthening of frame will likely be needed.

No I am not saying about changing of engine but just uprating the current ones....