There is little motivation to solve Kashmir. If it was solved in favor of Pákistan, you would simply turn around in a few years and ask for Delhi, next Agra, next Lucknow. What you want is the whole of India as a dhimmi state -where is the benefit for us in that?
That's stretching it a notch man.. Pakistan is so not looking to do any of that. That's way far-fetched.
So if India made as much fuss as Pakistan, would that make both countries equally right or wrong on kashmir?
I do not expect any logical arguments on kashmir from pakistanis, but this is a new one
@Bang Galore
It's not about equally right or wrong. It's all about concerned. India, is not concerned with resolving Kashmir, Pakistan is. The noise merely implies who's bothered by the issue, and Pakistan sure is. We present arguments to the world on Kashmir, India should do the same. There is absolutely no way that Kashmir is getting resolved if the commitment is only one-sided. It just shows India is committed to work for a resolution. That's all.
People don't do things where they see no value. Most Indians ask: what is for India in peace with Pakistan? Pakistan may argue that in peace both India and Pakistan may use resources to alleviate poverty that instead are being used for defense. But Pakistan fails to understand that Pakistan or no Pakistan, India will continue to spend on defense as India wants to be considered global military might.
We don't really care how powerful India is, or concerned about her military might as long as their is iron-clad peace. It is because you guys succeeded in making a nuclear weapon that Pakistan started working one. As far as military is concerned, whether or not one wants to be a super power or whatever is irrelevant. You make peace with the entire world, even still you would need weapons. As long as India is getting powerful, Pakistan is doing whatever it can to match that. That still is irrelevant. As long as there is peace, we don't care about he military might. What's in it for India if Kashmir is resolved? Really? If Kashmir is resolved, the two neighbors can work together and give peace a greater shot.. That means absolutely nothing to you then?
I see your point.
Quite truthfully India is indifferent to the relationship.
It really does not matter - not anymore. Kashmir is not going anywhere anytime. Both of us need to live with it.
Of course India will make nice so long as India is accepted & respected just as Pakistan too would like to be accepted & respected.
I agree with that.. Kashmir doesn't have to go anywhere... Oppression and violence just needs to stop. Surely there is something the two countries could work out inni?
Ok let's see what is happening :
Who gains from enmity :-
What India gains? Nothing!!! Super power aspirations means more peaceful environment is needed to grow economically. So over all strategy would be peace and prosperity with all neighbors. This was evident in our independent history. Just replace US or Israel or even UK or Japan in place of India and what would be their actions against Pakistan? A neighbor who inflicting terrorists and indulge in all sort of things which could destabilize a nation. By now all these nations I mentioned above would have indulged in War to Death strategy. But India kept quite still it breached the limit and history is our judge as we all know what happened when we strikes back.
What Pakistan gain? Anything and everything!!! Pakistan is a nation which United as one with Anti Hindu anti India paranoia!!! Isn't it? I recall a time when West (Rome) got United as one with Christianity. Funny that many people don't know that Holy Bible is a creation of few men who never knew about Jesus christ as holy Bible text was written after 400 years. 400AD.
In this case instead of religion it's Anti India and Anti Hindu rhetoric!!! Very old strategy which don't have any relevant in today's world. As you might know today there are largest Muslims community living in India than in Pakistan without any secretarian war like in Pakistan. Pakistan has been and will be want to be at warmongering with India for ever. Many things goes along with it. Like unity in the country! Certain organizations get unaccounted money! Many freebies from foreign countries who want to see India bleeding! Much much more.
If Pakistan stopped training terrorists and infiltration India and Pakistan could be at good understanding isn't it? Kashmir is just a catalyst to this dirty game of Pakistan. So if Kashmir is resolved will Pakistan dare stop Anti India proxies and anti India strategy?
Answer would be No and NEVER . Wonder how long this already burned out strategy would work and help Pakistan. India should be doing what it has been doing for the past 1 year. Just ignore and isolate Pakistan. Switch focus on China so China will understand what a waste it could be to flood it's money into Pakistan. If war happens India can defeat Pakistan and has stomach to escalate to any level including Nuclear warfare.
Hmmm... It would seem that all you guys have firm belief that Pakistan is breeding terrorists. Funny how we are also the ones to suffer at their hands and then spend billions of rupees to actually get rid of them.. All that for an alleged proxy war against India which really isn't doing much good to Pakistan in the first place.
I like how you say,
if war happens. You know it is really easy to say stuff like that.. If war happens, it's not about who wins or loses. It's about the countless deaths that would happen on both sides, most of them of people who have absolutely no idea as to the whys, the whats, and the hows.. Oh well... that was a one-sided analysis you provided though.
