South China Sea Forum

[Hafizzz]

India was a colony only in name. the British never dared interfere with their lives or dictate where they could live or not unlike in China where a mass murderer rapist like Mao is worshiped and nobody can ask questions about what happened to 50-70-100 million+ poor helpless Chinese who died from 1935-1976 due to his policies and to fulfill his grand wishes.

Scholars Continue to Reveal Mao's Monstrosities

Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years' - News - Books - The Independent

The Chinese Maoists will never go unpunished for these heinous crimes against the Chinese people.

Mao lived in palatial villas and ate lavishly like Chinese emperors while the poor helpless people starved to death.

What is different in your condition then under Mao and now when you can be forcibly relocated anytime against your wishes or put into labor camp without anybody knowing about you???

Just like India is a "democracy" in name only ?

 

[Genesis]

India was a colony only in name. the British never dared interfere with their lives or dictate where they could live or not unlike in China where a mass murderer rapist like Mao is worshiped and nobody can ask questions about what happened to 50-70-100 million+ poor helpless Chinese who died from 1935-1976 due to his policies and to fulfill his grand wishes.

Scholars Continue to Reveal Mao's Monstrosities

Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years' - News - Books - The Independent

The Chinese Maoists will never go unpunished for these heinous crimes against the Chinese people.

Mao lived in palatial villas and ate lavishly like Chinese emperors while the poor helpless people starved to death.

What is different in your condition then under Mao and now when you can be forcibly relocated anytime against your wishes or put into labor camp without anybody knowing about you???

Funny you don't bring up the Soviets where practically the same crap happened, and for that little population, pretty much the same scale.

The Chinese maoists have already been purged, by those that survived the purge by Maoists, what do you think Deng and his people did when they took power.

Mao is actually not a spender, he isn't like those African dudes, not to say he is better, but money isn't a goal much like Stalin. They are true communists.



The labor camps are prisons, actual prisons for criminals. A lot of Chinese people support it. We dont' like this compassion crap. When we do take into consideration of compassion, people riot for harsher sentence. I can show proof.

As to what's different? 1950-60s we were worse than India, 70s we were still a tad worse, 80s we were about same, 90s, we got a little better, 2000s, we got a lot better.

Today? We got better social welfare, better luxury goods, better living conditions, better infrastructure, better everything. Though the only thing that's still the same? We are about as corrupt as you, but your democracy should make up for it right? OR at least according to some, democracy makes corruption almost desirable.

So you ask what's different? We are much much better than you economically, that's what.

 

[BigDaddyWatch]

Aquino need to follow the law himself before lecturing others and stop claiming territory that is not his own. Didn't the Philipinnes and Malaysia had a altercation earlier this year ? Wasn't that about territorial disputes ? Didn't Philipinnes coast guard shot dead a Taiwanese fisherman earlier this year in "disputed" waters. That issue still hasn't been resolved yet.

 

[killerjo]

Funny you don't bring up the Soviets where practically the same crap happened, and for that little population, pretty much the same scale.

The Chinese maoists have already been purged, by those that survived the purge by Maoists, what do you think Deng and his people did when they took power.

Mao is actually not a spender, he isn't like those African dudes, not to say he is better, but money isn't a goal much like Stalin. They are true communists.



The labor camps are prisons, actual prisons for criminals. A lot of Chinese people support it. We dont' like this compassion crap. When we do take into consideration of compassion, people riot for harsher sentence. I can show proof.

As to what's different? 1950-60s we were worse than India, 70s we were still a tad worse, 80s we were about same, 90s, we got a little better, 2000s, we got a lot better.

Today? We got better social welfare, better luxury goods, better living conditions, better infrastructure, better everything. Though the only thing that's still the same? We are about as corrupt as you, but your democracy should make up for it right? OR at least according to some, democracy makes corruption almost desirable.

So you ask what's different? We are much much better than you economically, that's what.

China is better than India... who the hell is disagreeing to it??

Please stop comparing China with India.. You should be comparing yourself with USA.

 

[GR!FF!N]

I'm not talking about that, I'm just saying, you were once "cool" with being colonized, what changed?
@GR!FF!N

You pity us, ok, if most of your population can spare a moment of their constant struggle of simply living, to pity us, that's cool with me.

You got less per capita than Sudan, that place is hunted by wars at all times. When you are poorer than a war torn nation, you got bigger problems than democracy.

see,told you..you guys only understand Per Capita,GDP,Hunger Index etc..but what about Freedom of speech,one pillar of the Democracy??do you want to live in a world where there is every basic need will be fulfilled,but there'll not be any freedom???seriously you should watch one movie that I'll suggest,OLDBOY..

Oldboy (2003 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

one of the best asian movie ever..you might learn what freedom is..

as for hunger and other index in which Indian failed,do the CCP already removed those from China???we have massive program to provide food,water,road,electricity,education,housing etc..may be within a decade,we'll almost eradicate these problems,as you know,within a decade,we lifted 12% of our population(actually its more than that,cause huge boom of population within a decade) or some 140 million people from poverty even in massive corruption and within another decade,we hope to lift over 200 million.these aren't doctored or face saving reports.but at least these poor people makes their own govt,have a say how to formulate their own well being and have right to express their own opinion against govt,not like you guys who are going to choose your own govt ever..

 

[Genesis]

see,told you..you guys only understand Per Capita,GDP,Hunger Index etc..but what about Freedom of speech,one pillar of the Democracy??do you want to live in a world where there is every basic need will be fulfilled,but there'll not be any freedom???seriously you should watch one movie that I'll suggest,OLDBOY..

Oldboy (2003 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

one of the best asian movie ever..you might learn what freedom is..

as for hunger and other index in which Indian failed,do the CCP already removed those from China???we have massive program to provide poor food,water,road,electricity,education,housing etc..may be within a decade,we'll almost eradicate these problems,as you know,within a decade,we lifted 12% of our population(actually its more than that,cause huge boom of population within a decade) or some 140 million people from poverty even in massive corruption and within another decade,we hope to lift over 200 million.these aren't doctored or face saving reports.but at least these poor people makes their own govt,have a say how to formulate their own well being and have right to express their own opinion against govt,not like you guys who are going to choose your own govt ever..

According to you a bum is the best profession, can do whatever he want and money not important.

Also don't compare India to China in reducing poverty, India may be second, but it's not a close second.

 

[Fsjal]

what rules of Sea Philippines failed to follow??

They shot a Taiwanese fishermen. Do you think it's fair to shoot a fisherman???

 

[Fsjal]

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang attends China-ASEAN summit CCTV News - CNTV English

In Brunei, 23rd Summit of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations is underway in the capital Bandar Seri Begawan. Chinese Premier Li Keqiang is attending the summit and expressed China’s views on promoting cooperation and development in the region.
Ten years of strategic partnership between China and ASEAN.
At the 16th China-ASEAN Summit, the two sides have discussed deepening cooperation in a number of fields.

The main topics include developing the China-ASEAN free trade area, setting up an Asian infrastructure investment bank and expanding regional maritime cooperation.
"From 2002 to 2012, trade volume between China and ASEAN countries grew by an average rate of 23.6 percent. Last year, trade volume reached 400 billion US dollars. China has become ASEAN’s largest trading partner," Li Keqiang said.
While trade is high in the agenda, the long-seething territorial disputes in South China Sea are also being discussed.
"Disputes in South China Sea should be addressed through negotiations among countries directly concerned. China and ASEAN countries are willing to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea. Relevant countries should work for joint development before these disputes are resolved," Li Keqiang said.
Brunei is the first leg of Premier Li Keqiang’s Southeast Asia trip. He will also visit Thailand and Vietnam.

 

[Fattyacids]

Nobody is cool with colonization in India, this is one of the darkest periods of our history and culture.

The difference between African nations and India is, India is moving forward where as African nations are not yet.

You were proud to be British Raj, English became the elite language and your constitution is written in English.

No really, your GDP per capita is lower than some african countries, poverty level higher.

 

[Fattyacids]

see,told you..you guys only understand Per Capita,GDP,Hunger Index etc..but what about Freedom of speech,one pillar of the Democracy??do you want to live in a world where there is every basic need will be fulfilled,but there'll not be any freedom???seriously you should watch one movie that I'll suggest,OLDBOY..

Oldboy (2003 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

one of the best asian movie ever..you might learn what freedom is..

as for hunger and other index in which Indian failed,do the CCP already removed those from China???we have massive program to provide food,water,road,electricity,education,housing etc..may be within a decade,we'll almost eradicate these problems,as you know,within a decade,we lifted 12% of our population(actually its more than that,cause huge boom of population within a decade) or some 140 million people from poverty even in massive corruption and within another decade,we hope to lift over 200 million.these aren't doctored or face saving reports.but at least these poor people makes their own govt,have a say how to formulate their own well being and have right to express their own opinion against govt,not like you guys who are going to choose your own govt ever..

Which version are you referring to?

 

[Fattyacids]

self delete

 

[Namin]

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang attends China-ASEAN summit CCTV News - CNTV English

In Brunei, 23rd Summit of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations is underway in the capital Bandar Seri Begawan. Chinese Premier Li Keqiang is attending the summit and expressed China’s views on promoting cooperation and development in the region.
Ten years of strategic partnership between China and ASEAN.
At the 16th China-ASEAN Summit, the two sides have discussed deepening cooperation in a number of fields.

The main topics include developing the China-ASEAN free trade area, setting up an Asian infrastructure investment bank and expanding regional maritime cooperation.
"From 2002 to 2012, trade volume between China and ASEAN countries grew by an average rate of 23.6 percent. Last year, trade volume reached 400 billion US dollars. China has become ASEAN’s largest trading partner," Li Keqiang said.
While trade is high in the agenda, the long-seething territorial disputes in South China Sea are also being discussed.
"Disputes in South China Sea should be addressed through negotiations among countries directly concerned. China and ASEAN countries are willing to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea. Relevant countries should work for joint development before these disputes are resolved," Li Keqiang said.
Brunei is the first leg of Premier Li Keqiang’s Southeast Asia trip. He will also visit Thailand and Vietnam.

It’s just diplomatic statement. Look at Chinese history before hearing from Chinese leaders:
1. Chinese people loved Qin Shi Huang although he killed all Confucius students and burnt all their books, which teach Chinese to keep promise. However, this man united China and Chinese people accept the deal.
2. Chinese people loved Liu Bang although he killed all of his loyal and contributed subordinates instead of giving them prosperous life as he promised. Chinese people accept the deal because they lived well under his dynasty.
3. Chinese people loved Li Shi Min of Tang Dynasty although he deceived and killed his brothers. However, he successfully expanded China, Chinese people accept the deal.
4. Chinese people hated Song Dynasty founder although he is ethical but lost many benefits to other kingdoms in north China.
5. Chinese people loved Zhu Yuanzhang although he killed all of his loyal and contributed subordinates instead of giving them prosperous life as he promised. However, Chinese people accept the deal because his dynasty regained grounds lost by Song Dynasty.
6. Chinese people loved Qing dynasty founder although he killed half of Han at that time. However, Chinese have biggest area under Qing Empire, Chinese people accept the deal.
7. About respected Mao, founder of PRC. His subordinates respected him but waited until his death to kill his wife. Anyway, Chinese people should continuously respect him as a hero of liberating China.
From those reasons, we can see that PRC Chinese leaders have to gain benefits for Chinese because their people don’t care that they keep promises or not but they must make benefits for Chinese. Otherwise, not needing China enemy, Chinese people will take them down first. Americans just don’t understand Chinese as they said Chinese people are brain-washed. Chinese people are exactly the ones who take full control of China. American lost in Vietnam because they did not understand Vietnamese, I’m afraid that will repeat again in the case of China. Don’t need to blame PRC government leaders, actually they are ethical persons, but they must play by the rule of Chinese people. That rule can be seen clearly in Chinese history.

 

[NiceGuy]

It’s just diplomatic statement. Look at Chinese history before hearing from Chinese leaders:
1. Chinese people loved Qin Shi Huang although he killed all Confucius students and burnt all their books, which teach Chinese to keep promise. However, this man united China and Chinese people accept the deal.
2. Chinese people loved Liu Bang although he killed all of his loyal and contributed subordinates instead of giving them prosperous life as he promised. Chinese people accept the deal because they lived well under his dynasty.
3. Chinese people loved Li Shi Min of Tang Dynasty although he deceived and killed his brothers. However, he successfully expanded China, Chinese people accept the deal.
4. Chinese people hated Song Dynasty founder although he is ethical but lost many benefits to other kingdoms in north China.
5. Chinese people loved Zhu Yuanzhang although he killed all of his loyal and contributed subordinates instead of giving them prosperous life as he promised. However, Chinese people accept the deal because his dynasty regained grounds lost by Song Dynasty.
6. Chinese people loved Qing dynasty founder although he killed half of Han at that time. However, Chinese have biggest area under Qing Empire, Chinese people accept the deal.
7. About respected Mao, founder of PRC. His subordinates respected him but waited until his death to kill his wife. Anyway, Chinese people should continuously respect him as a hero of liberating China.
From those reasons, we can see that PRC Chinese leaders have to gain benefits for Chinese because their people don’t care that they keep promises or not but they must make benefits for Chinese. Otherwise, not needing China enemy, Chinese people will take them down first. Americans just don’t understand Chinese as they said Chinese people are brain-washed. Chinese people are exactly the ones who take full control of China. American lost in Vietnam because they did not understand Vietnamese, I’m afraid that will repeat again in the case of China. Don’t need to blame PRC government leaders, actually they are ethical persons, but they must play by the rule of Chinese people. That rule can be seen clearly in Chinese history.

China is just a weak, coward but big mouth nation, all US need to do is just sent all best weapons and lots of money to support VN plus support VN to control Thailand, Sing in order to control Kra cannal and Malacca strait, then China will be a docile puppy for good

 

[Srinivas]

Just go through the entire thread and read my posts..

You were proud to be British Raj, English became the elite language and your constitution is written in English.

No really, your GDP per capita is lower than some african countries, poverty level higher.

 

[bolo]

rules by that you mean the white men's rules? No thanks. White men sign treaty that say Spratley belong to China after ww2, than they say no, it belongs to (name your country other than China).

White men sign treaty with native Indians. Pure Native Indians no longer exist.

About time China quit playing by white men's rules.