South China Sea Forum

[grey boy 2]

Japan to provide patrol ships to Vietnam amid maritime row with China


Reuters

Wednesday, September 07, 2016 20:32.

The Japanese government said on Wednesday it is ready to provide Vietnam with new patrol ships, in its latest step to boost the maritime law-enforcement capabilities of countries locked in territorial rows with China.
On Tuesday, Japan agreed to provide two large patrol ships and lend up to five used surveillance aircraft to the Philippines, another country at odds with China over sovereignty issues in the South China Sea.
Japan itself has been at loggerheads with China over a group of tiny, uninhabited East China Sea islets.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told his Vietnamese counterpart, Nguyen Xuan Phuc, of Tokyo's intention in their meeting on the sidelines of ASEAN-related meetings in Vientiane.

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Japan has already provided six patrol ships to Vietnam, but they were all used ones, a Japanese foreign ministry official said, adding that details such as the timing of the delivery and the number of ships to be provided have yet to be fixed.
Japan plans to extend a low-interest loan under its official development assistance program to Vietnam to facilitate the acquisition.
China has laid claim to almost all of the South China Sea, where about $5 trillion worth of seaborne trade passes every year. Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims in the sea believed to have rich deposits of oil and gas.
A court of arbitration in The Hague in July said China's claims to the waterway were invalid, after a case was brought by the Philippines. Beijing has refused to recognize the ruling.

Thanks for providing daily jokes of "republic of 不漏洞拉"
"Day dreaming VS Reality" truth always hurts, sunny

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-coast-guard-chases-boats-in-south-china-sea

 

[GS Zhou]

Thanks for providing daily jokes of "republic of 不漏洞拉"
"Day dreaming VS Reality" truth always hurts, sunny

The delivery of that boat is posting threaten to us. We should accelerate the pace of building coast guard ships. Seriously.

A corner of our many shipyards in one single moment, just count how many coast guard ships and navy frigates are being constructed simultaneously.

你那么想要军备竞赛，那就军备竞赛好咯
If you wanna arms race, lets race.

 

[cochine]

Thanks for providing daily jokes of "republic of 不漏洞拉"
"Day dreaming VS Reality" truth always hurts, sunny

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-coast-guard-chases-boats-in-south-china-sea

 

[bhedgehog]

Deprecated Russian junks. And numbers are too small.

In China such weapons can only serve in 2nd or 3rd tier units, although we have way much larger number of them or similar stuff.

BTW, does Vietnam even has a modern C4I system to full utilize the capabilities of your imported toys? And they are super expensive to you, aren't they? Russians aways make BIG BIG money on selling expensive weapons to countries who cannot produce similar modern equipments themselves and rely on Russia as their only source... ...

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Deprecated Russian junks. And number s are way too small.

In China such weapons can only serve in 2nd or 3rd tier units, although we process much larger number of them or similar stuff.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/south-china-sea-news-discussions.196058/page-723#ixzz4N4g9qoUs

any serious confrontation between china and vietnam would be settled on land- just a march down to hanoi from guangxi will solve all disputes.

 

[bhedgehog]

Oh wait, do you know that China knows your new Russian weapons way much better than you do?

Russians gave tons of classified information on those weapons to their big customer China, not to Vietnam I am afraid. Moreover we have been manufacturing and operating your newly purchased modles for decades and have been updating the deprecated modules using our own technology. So do not use Russian high tech weapons against China, not too wise......... They are not as simple as rifles after all.

 

[bhedgehog]

any serious confrontation between china and vietnam would be settled on land- just a march down to hanoi from guangxi will solve all disputes.

Conflicts on land may easily cause casualties on both sides, no good for the side holding absolute technological advantage. For state such as Vietnam, a 0 casualty conflict is what China should try to achieve, as we did in 1988.

 

[cochine]

any serious confrontation between china and vietnam would be settled on land- just a march down to hanoi from guangxi will solve all disputes.

China ran back in 1979 with bloody nose.

Re-attacks shall be done in to cities in south China immedetly after first shot from China.

Conflicts on land may easily cause casualties on both sides, no good for the side holding absolute technological advantage. For state such as Vietnam, a 0 casualty conflict is what China should try to achieve, as we did in 1988.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

China ran back in 1979 with bloody nose.

Re-attacks shall be done in to cities in south China immedetly after first shot from China.

It's always been north attacking south- never south attacking north. cite an istance whereby the Vietnamese did a counter attack deep into guangxi

 

[cochine]

It's always been north attacking south- never south attacking north. cite an istance whereby the Vietnamese did a counter attack deep into guangxi

Yes Chinese aggressors is very aggressive, it is truth, she is attacking Viet from not.. .But Viet is only re-attacking to counter all invasion of Chinese from north, so Chinese is ran back to China .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lý_Thường_Kiệt

preparing to re-attack on where the aggressor could be coming...

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Yes Chinese aggressors is very aggressive, it is truth, she is attacking Viet from not.. .But Viet is only re-attacking to counter all invasion of Chinese from north, so Chinese is ran back to China .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lý_Thường_Kiệt

preparing to re-attack on where the aggressor could be coming...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_best_defense_is_a_good_offense

Military[edit]
George Washington wrote in 1799: "…make them believe, that offensive operations, often times, is the surest, if not the only (in some cases) means of defence".[1]

Mao Zedong opined that "the only real defense is active defense", meaning defense for the purpose of counter-attacking and taking the offensive.[2] Often success rests on destroying the enemy's ability to attack. This principle is paralleled in the writings of Machiavelli and Sun Tzu.[3]

Some martial arts emphasise attack over defense. Wing Chun, for example, is a style of Kung Fu which uses the maxim: "The hand which strikes also blocks."

During World War I, Germany planned to attack France so as to quickly knock it out of the war thereby reducing the Entente's numerical superiority and to free up German troops to head east and defeat Russia.

 

[TaiShang]

In pics: China's Nansha island airports
(CRI Online) 10:26, October 16, 2016


The airport runway on Meiji Reef in the Nansha islands of South China Sea has currently been completed. Flights have been tested from three newly constructed airpots. The airports are capable of handling civil aviation flights and will facilitate transportation, emergency rescue and medical services for residents of the islands. [Photo: sina.com]



　　The airport runway on Meiji Reef in the Nansha islands of South China Sea has currently been completed. Flights have been tested from three newly constructed airpots. The airports are capable of handling civil aviation flights and will facilitate transportation, emergency rescue and medical services for residents of the islands. [Photo: sina.com]



　　The airport runway on Yongshu Reef in the Nansha islands of South China Sea has currently been completed. Flights have been tested from three newly constructed airpots. The airports are capable of handling civil aviation flights and will facilitate transportation, emergency rescue and medical services for residents of the islands. [Photo: sina.com]



　　The airport runway on Yongshu Reef in the Nansha islands of South China Sea has currently been completed. Flights have been tested from three newly constructed airpots. The airports are capable of handling civil aviation flights and will facilitate transportation, emergency rescue and medical services for residents of the islands. [Photo: sina.com]



　　A patrol aircraft lands on the airport on Yongshu Reef in the Nansha islands of South China Sea. [Photo: CCTV]



　　The airport runway on Yongshu Reef in the Nansha islands of South China Sea has currently been completed. Flights have been tested from three newly constructed airpots. The airports are capable of handling civil aviation flights and will facilitate transportation, emergency rescue and medical services for residents of the islands. [Photo: sina.com]



　　A passenger jet of Hainan Airlines lands at the airport on Zhubi Reef, July 13, 2016. [Photo: Xinhua]

　　The airport runway on Zhubi Reef in the Nansha islands of South China Sea has currently been completed. Flights have been tested from three newly constructed airpots. The airports are capable of handling civil aviation flights and will facilitate transportation, emergency rescue and medical services for residents of the islands. [Photo: sina.com]

@kecho

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

This is illegal construction works made by China and got meaningless. China stolen corel reefs of Vietnam with force in 1988, is same what Japan did in the past in North East China's land in WW II or Japan had annexed Taiwan to Japan territory after First Sino-Japan war 1895..

Based on PCI ruling on SCS dispute, China "nine dashed line" and "historical sea territory" claimed by China is illegal.

same thing: Spratly island itself, of which Spratly islands is collectively named after- is illegally occupied by Vietnam now, and China will get it back

 

[Viet]

It's always been north attacking south- never south attacking north. cite an istance whereby the Vietnamese did a counter attack deep into guangxi

do you feel happy? I wonder too why it is always Japan that attacks China but never vice versa?

sure, Vietnam army under the Ly once staged a pre-emptive strike, annihilating the Song army in Guangzhou and Guangxi.

 

[cochine]

same thing: Spratly island itself, of which Spratly islands is collectively named after- is illegally occupied by Vietnam now, and China will get it back

stop lie here my dude. Spratly and Paracel was controlled and part of Vietnam sovereignty from long time in the past .

claim and occupation of china is illegal.

Full map òf China KMT printed in China 1936. No where ís Spratly and Paracel Islands.