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So who still thinks Israel is the root of Middle East problems?

You'll need to stop being state sponsors of terrorism etc.

iranian terrorism ===. supporting poor people of palestine & supporting hezbollah against israhell atrocities

israhelli terrorism ==> killing people , butchering innocents, children and women, horrific crimes against humanity
 
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Saying that Muslims also should be blamed for problems in ME doesn't make someone a Zionist. Just look around our own country and tell me who are our friends or enemies. Obviously, Israel is just one in many.

1- obviously u didnt get my point , i didnt say anyone who thinks muslims should be blamed for problems is zionist
what i said was he thinks muslims are the ONLY problem and israel has nothing to do with it....that makes him zionist

2-we have alot of enemies but ISRAHELL is the #1
 
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I think India is only countries in the world who has good relation with Israel as well philistine.
yasser arafat had very good relation with Indian leaders.
We need arms and advance technology to defend our self from good neighbors that's why we have good relationship with Israel, not because its is a Jews nation.
So just sit back and relax...........


Personally, I am just going to sit back and enjoy watching the Indians defend Israel against the evil Muslims, as always.
 
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YES,,, change is chaos

The dark ages for the Europeans lasted the best part of a thousand years after the romans fell.

The Muslim world was under pressure from the colonial period around the 17th century onwards (you can talk about the years leading up to this also)

You had the colonial period
The Post colonial period where the muslim world is ruled by dictators and kings

And now, its the modern world that is making change in the muslim world so quick, internet, world news, access to info etc

However much chaos there is it is all needed, in order for change to occur

The massive muslim world, with so much resources, so much land, 1.7 billion people and growing is a sleeping giant. It is enivtable at some stage this giant will awake

Cool story bro, lots of silver lining to it.

Now, explain how "The Post colonial period where the muslim world is ruled by dictators and kings" is any different from what we have today?

So much resources? All you have is oil dude and it ain't gonna last forever, even less so when it is used as a tool for geopolitical pressure.
As for the 1.7 bill. people, good luck employing them. Take a good read about Egypt for example, the explosion of population that job creation just couldn't follow and whole swaths of population are plunged into poverty.
Same with Pakistan and i'm quite certain if i went to research it in more detail i'd find more similar patterns. Oil rich countries buy off the youngsters with welfare since even they can't provide jobs for all of them, the poorer nations can't. Everytime i see pictures from SE Asia and some poorer Muslim nations, i see men hanging by the street, wasting time. This is the problem described above in pictures. No jobs.

Sorry if this is hard, but you're in dire need of a reality check. Basics like food, water will start becoming an issue in the next decades (is already a problem now, depends who you talk to), predominantly for the countries that live in harsh climates and didn't have the cash to buy land mass for farming in Africa.
 
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I think Israel is the perfect scapegoat for so many "leaders" from the ME, to indoctrinate their people and hide their failures. Look around, anything and everything can and is blamed on the evil, all mighty Jews...and the funny part is that many, many buy in to that garbage...brainwashing at it's finest..

I hope that Europe & USA will continue to support Israel for as long as we can, every time the situation requires it - they deserve their own state and have every right to it. This is in spite of the fact that I don't agree with their policies regarding Palestine..


About the original topic, my humble opinion is that many muslims mix to much religion in their every day life, and that causes all sort of problems. In my point of view, religion should be for ones soul, character and moral values, while ones head should be used when interacting with the world..:)
 
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Please don't bring off topic terms like 'Hindus' in this. Once it belonged to the Jews. Muslims captured it. The Jews captured it back. Of course you have a right to be grieved. But then you have no more right to the land than any other. If you want it take it. Stop crying. :police:

Muslims did not capture it from Jews, history fail. Muslims however did resettle Jews in Jerusalem after they captured it from the Byzantines.

Lol....exactly, Muslims have no monopoly on stuipity. (I was going to edit my bad misspelling....but it seemed to fit well)

WE however express our stupidity better than others. :lol:
 
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Of course Israel is a stumbling block to a 100% Islamic Middle East. It is inconvenient and almost a pimple on the face of the Earth. Also the humiliation the might Arabs faced while fighting against Israel rubs salt into old wounds. Besides the very existence and survival of the Jewish people(who are worse than swine)in the Holy Land is enough to boil the blood.

Many Muslims have already accepted Israel, even the Arabs have given proposals of full recognition in exchange for a Palestinian state, we even have no problem splitting Jerusalem between the both of us. I think a hindu such as yourself should get educated on the situation before speaking about it. You are obviously looking at it through an anti-Muslim lens.
 
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israel has no right to be in middle east its a illegitimate empire, a "basterd" son, it might survive for next 10 years, 15 years, 20 years but it will not last forever. some time in future they will have to pack their bags and go back to where ever they came from whether its poland or germany.
 
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Cool story bro, lots of silver lining to it.

Now, explain how "The Post colonial period where the muslim world is ruled by dictators and kings" is any different from what we have today?

So much resources? All you have is oil dude and it ain't gonna last forever, even less so when it is used as a tool for geopolitical pressure.
As for the 1.7 bill. people, good luck employing them. Take a good read about Egypt for example, the explosion of population that job creation just couldn't follow and whole swaths of population are plunged into poverty.
Same with Pakistan and i'm quite certain if i went to research it in more detail i'd find more similar patterns. Oil rich countries buy off the youngsters with welfare since even they can't provide jobs for all of them, the poorer nations can't. Everytime i see pictures from SE Asia and some poorer Muslim nations, i see men hanging by the street, wasting time. This is the problem described above in pictures. No jobs.

Sorry if this is hard, but you're in dire need of a reality check. Basics like food, water will start becoming an issue in the next decades (is already a problem now, depends who you talk to), predominantly for the countries that live in harsh climates and didn't have the cash to buy land mass for farming in Africa.


We still are in the post colonial period to many worthless dictators kings whose main aim is to keep the status quo keep the people down so they can keep ruling

This hasn't changed yet, the Muslim world however is massive the amount of resources is massive and not just oil and gas, you need to look up the resources of various countries on your own I can't give you a geography and
RResource lesson now

Already the change is occurring numbers are indeed power we are not just talking about massive economic improvement in places like turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia or UAE etc but the scope of development across the Muslim world is massive

Muslim communities are also present across the globe and form significant minorities in major countries from India to Europe to the USA and are beginning to establish themselves and grow affluent

I am not talking about the next 5 or 10 years but the next 50 or 100 and beyond you will see the re emergence of a currently under developed Muslim world

And this world should not forget what the Jews have done in Palestine
 
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Jerusalem is a not a seat of power,


Saladin did not take the city, he retook it from crusader occupation


Millions of muslims have died defending Jerusalem against all attackers, for over a thousand years muslims have ruled the city, protected it.



There is no reason to give up Jerusalem after 64 years when we retook it from the crusaders after 100

Ehhh.take a ticvket in the line you desperate fool...Jerusalem was a holy city for the jews some 2500 years ago,it became one for the christians 2000 years ago and some 1350 ago suddendly the muslims had an ideea that it means something for them.

I for one,altough i am a christian,believe in the "first come,first served" theory.So,shut your pieholle and get in in line toning the b it ching down if you will.
 
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I think Israel is the perfect scapegoat for so many "leaders" from the ME, to indoctrinate their people and hide their failures. Look around, anything and everything can and is blamed on the evil, all mighty Jews...and the funny part is that many, many buy in to that garbage...brainwashing at it's finest..

Not only for the M.E. Leaders , but for your leaders too...

I hope that Europe & USA will continue to support Israel for as long as we can, every time the situation requires it

That the least you can do...You owe them big, Israel knows it and got you by the balls...It was the Europeans that supplied them in drove to Hitler gas furnaces. Not the Arabs.
 
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Iran will be a big western parking lot soon.

Inshallah.

The job is yours..

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israel has no right to be in middle east its a illegitimate empire, a "basterd" son, it might survive for next 10 years, 15 years, 20 years but it will not last forever. some time in future they will have to pack their bags and go back to where ever they came from whether its poland or germany.

I'm sorry if this upsets you, but Israel isn't going anywhere. They are too powerful at this point.
 
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Israel is in a very chaotic neighbourhood.

It needs to get out of the West Bank and dismantle settlements.

As long as Israel rules over Palestinians it will be repeatedly dragged into the turmoil which surrounds it.

As soon as it withdraws from West Bank and establishes a very fortified security perimeter with barbed wire, cameras, pill boxes, iron dome systems, etc.

It will be secure in its own confines.
 
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Many Muslims have already accepted Israel, even the Arabs have given proposals of full recognition in exchange for a Palestinian state, we even have no problem splitting Jerusalem between the both of us. I think a hindu such as yourself should get educated on the situation before speaking about it. You are obviously looking at it through an anti-Muslim lens.

'anti-Muslim...' - First class BS.
'a hindu such as yourself' - What has this got to do with my faith? Stop looking it through an 'anti-Kafir' lens
'history fail' - Its your fail. The Holy land was Judeo Christian dominated. Only after Muslim occupation did the situation change dramatically.

But that said, since you accept that Jews have a right to life just like you do, I have no issue with you. I have serious reservations about the idea of cleansing ME off the Jews as some other guy/girl here mentioned. If you can tolerate each other and live in peace, I am good.
 
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