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One soldier from the Indonesian Army and one from the Air Force are facing punishment after voicing their support for Rizieq Shihab, the controversial leader of the Islam Defenders Front (FPI), in viral videos in conjunction with the firebrand cleric's return from self-exile in Saudi Arabia. The Army soldier, who was later identified as Second Cpl. Asyari Tri Yudha, expressed his support for Rizieq in a video that he recorded on Tuesday. It shows several Indonesian Military (TNI) personnel sitting in the back of a moving military truck. Behind the camera, Asyari says, "On my way to the airport to prepare to provide security for the [arrival of] the great Imam Rizieq Shihab. We are with you Rizieq Shihab." In another video, a man wearing an Indonesian Air Force uniform recorded himself singing a song to welcome the controversial cleric. "Welcome, leader of the FPI. greetings from a TNI soldier. Welcome, welcome Rizieq Shihab," sang the soldier, who has been identified as Chief Sgt. BDS. Both videos went viral on social media on Tuesday. Read also: 'Just catching up': Anies visits Rizieq Shihab despite quarantine rule Jakarta Military Command acting spokesperson Col. Inf. Refki Efriandana Edward said that based on the command’s investigation, Asyari had violated a military discipline regulation stipulated in Article 9 of Law No. 25/2014 by publicly disseminating information about his duty to guard vital objects. "He will be put in detention for a maximum of 14 days," Refki said, as quoted by kompas.com on Thursday. The military also suspended Asyari’s promotion for six months and his education for up to a year. Refki added that the sanctions were not related to Asyari's expression of support for Rizieq, claiming that what the soldier had said in the video was spontaneous. "He's supposed to keep the confidentiality of his assignment and not reveal it to the public," Refki said. Air Force spokesperson Fajar Adriyanto said BDS had been in the custody of the Air Force Military Police since Wednesday and was under investigation. The Air Force Military Police suspected BDS of having violated a general order to use social media wisely from TNI commander Air Chief Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto and Air Force chief of staff Air Chief Marshal Fadjar Prasetyo. "We're investigating the incident. The soldier in the video could face sanctions for violating commands," Fajar said on Wednesday, as reported by Kompas TV. Read also: Firebrand cleric returns amid resurgence of Islamic politics Rizieq returned to Indonesia on Tuesday to a crowd of thousands of supporters at Soekarno-Hatta International Airport in Tangerang, Banten, and another at the FPI headquarters in Petamburan. The cleric had spent more than three years in Saudi Arabia. The FPI leader was embroiled in several legal cases when he fled the country in 2017. The two most infamous cases in which the National Police had named him a suspect were a pornography case and a case about allegedly insulting Pancasila, Indonesia’s state ideology. The police have dropped their investigations of both cases. (nal)


Any precaution will be said to oppress Islam and finally again Indonesian Chinese will become victims of hatred because they are the weakest group against FPI than Christians who are politically backed up by western countries
This sounds like a crying lady. If you are not tough, nobody can back you up.
 
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I don't want colse relations with Indonesia. Why is it necessary for us?
Geopraphical position is not a topic for every country. Yemen is more important if you consider geopolitical position.

You are not victims as long as you find solutions. Leave with your money. Or move to gather togher into one place. Why you guys have to stay in Java. They have 10000+ islands, find to settle on a proper one freely.

The richest is very easy to get out and migrate abroad or live in wealthy housing. but not all of them were rich. the saddest are the poor. they have to live in a poor neighborhood, the poorer the place the higher the level of racism. racist taunts have often been received by them on social media
 
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The richest is very easy to get out and migrate abroad or live in wealthy housing. but not all of them were rich. the saddest are the poor. they have to live in a poor neighborhood, the poorer the place the higher the level of racism. racist taunts have often been received by them on social media
The poorest ones have nothing to lose. Everyone have only one live. Eye for eye. I don't think the racist taunts are not afraid of death. What your concern?
 
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This sounds like a crying lady. If you are not tough, nobody can back you up.

because most Chinese Indonesians are Hokkien immigrants who come only to trade, they have a trading spirit, are friendly and don't like to look for trouble. Only a few have a fighting spirit, generally Indonesian Hakka
 
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The richest is very easy to get out and migrate abroad or live in wealthy housing. but not all of them were rich. the saddest are the poor. they have to live in a poor neighborhood, the poorer the place the higher the level of racism. racist taunts have often been received by them on social media

There is no racism in Indonesia, but I do heart the racism happened at school where many lower middle class become students, but we are trying to educate our kids to embrace diversity now. The issue has been taken seriously here.

According to my experience studying in upper middle class schools (elementary/junior/high school), there is no racism to Chinese Indonesian friends, even one of them becomes very popular due to his warm and friendly personality.

In university and grown up society, such thing doesnt exist anymore.

Here you can see school in Indonesia where there are many ethnicity, including Chinese Indonesian girl. You can check what happened in the class. Start at 2.40

 
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because most Chinese Indonesians are Hokkien immigrants who come only to trade, they have a trading spirit, are friendly and don't like to look for trouble. Only a few have a fighting spirit, generally Indonesian Hakka
1st step, don't put Chinese and Indonesian together. Chinese is Chinese, Indonesian is Indonesian. The word Chinese Indonesian is so weird and annoying us. 2nd, if you can't change the society, change yourself. I don't think anyone is born trading spirits. They don't treat you friendly, why the hell you are friendly.
 
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The poorest ones have nothing to lose. Everyone have only one live. Eye for eye. I don't think the racist taunts are not afraid of death. What your concern?
Indonesian Chinese is only 5% of the Indonesian population
a fight will not be fought one by one and when you go to prison you will be beaten up by them

1st step, don't put Chinese and Indonesian together. Chinese is Chinese, Indonesian is Indonesian. The word Chinese Indonesian is so weird and annoying us. 2nd, if you can't change the society, change yourself. I don't think anyone is born trading spirits. They don't treat you friendly, why the hell you are friendly.

LOL in Indonesia they are called Chinese (refers to ethnic Han ), I call them Indonesian Chinese so they don't get mistaken for PRC citizens
 
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Indonesian Chinese is only 5% of the Indonesian population
a fight will not be fought one by one and when you go to prison you will be beaten up by them

Damn, what budda tell you: I don't go to hell, who instead go to hell.
Finish one, it's equal; finish two, he earns; eliminate a herd, bloody earn.
 
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1st step, don't put Chinese and Indonesian together. Chinese is Chinese, Indonesian is Indonesian. The word Chinese Indonesian is so weird and annoying us. 2nd, if you can't change the society, change yourself. I don't think anyone is born trading spirits. They don't treat you friendly, why the hell you are friendly.

Chinese Indonesian doesnt like to be called Cina, it is like an insult to them, they prefer being called Tionghoa. The situation is really different in Malaysia where they are called Cina by other ethnicity and they dont have problem with that.
 
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@Place Of Space

Chinese Indonesian Muslim girl prefer getting married with native Indonesian Muslim

Isyana Sarasvati with his native Indonesian husband

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I can tell Indonesians that I myself am a Communist and a Muslim at the same time. I call myself an old-style Muslim because just some decades ago it was not uncommon for many Muslims to be socialist / communist. That atmosphere can be seen in this thread of mine about socialist activism among Muslims around the world from the 1900s onward.



So other ethnicities in Indonesia are not suspected of communist activism ?



Where is this place ? I ask because the PKI ( Communist Party of Indonesia ) is banned.

What I know is that there is no communism in Indonesia anymore, they only use an excuse to attack the ethnic Chinese because they associate it with the PRC, it's true that culturally ethnic Chinese are still related but politically they are not interested


Communist supporters in Palestine
 
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What I know is that there is no communism in Indonesia anymore, they only use an excuse to attack the ethnic Chinese because they associate it with the PRC, it's true that culturally ethnic Chinese are still related but politically they are not interested


Communist supporters in Palestine

Communist IMO is intended to secular PDI-P party which is lead by Soekarno family, you know Soekarno is accused as pro Communist by historian and Islamist. Many also believe communist follower, despite very small, has infiltrated PDI-P. We can see Youtube video that tried to mislead the history by saying Indonesia communist party never killed those Armed Force General in 1966. It shows they do exist, but I believe Communist calling in Indonesia is more intended to mock PDI-P supporter.
 
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