Siper: Turkish National Long Range Area Air & Missile Defence System to be delivered in 2021/22.

[Oublious]

but you guys do not have any SCUD like ballistic missiles, you only have one short range type, sorry i forget its name. so how that's going to happen?

You did use it againgst Iraq and how did it end? Firing to big cities nothing more, if you put nuke then it is a good weapon. Other then that it is a waste of money.

 

[skyshadow]

Ballistic missiles are not totally out of procurement plan my friend. What SSB wants to introduce to public is the precision guided ballistic missile efforts with a range up to “300km”. Block-2 variant of this missile will be introduced with an unknown range factor. On the other hand, Roketsan is developing a three stage satellite launch vehicle to carry 100kg paylod up to 400km altitude. That is a contraditing story As you see so It is not about capability but preference. What Turkiye wants is not to attract foreign attention with introducing mass production weapons. Instead, VL Land/Ship based point strike long range (800-1000km scale) cruise missile program called GeZgin is prefered to announce the public.

i see well that is a very good plan to play it slow and smart but that will set you back from your time line that is the price that you have to pay for that plan to work ( which is what Turkey wants is not to attract foreign attention with introducing mass production weapons ).

You did use it againgst Iraq and how did it end? Firing to big cities nothing more, if you put nuke then it is a good weapon. Other then that it is a waste of money.

now that will just make me and our other brother laugh Turkish or Iranian, brother you are compering our missile power to 1980 we came alot of way from 40 years ago now PLS PLS listen to Uzi Rubin and tell me if we are wasting our time on ballistic missile he explain how powerful your precise ballistic missile are.

 

[Oublious]

i see well that is a very good plan to play it slow and smart but that will set you back from your time line that is the price that you have to pay for that plan to work ( which is what Turkey wants is not to attract foreign attention with introducing mass production weapons ).



now that will just make me and our other brother laugh Turkish or Iranian, brother you are compering our missile power to 1980 we came alot of way from 40 years ago now PLS PLS listen to Uzi Rubin and tell me if we are wasting our time on ballistic missile he explain how powerful your precise ballistic missile are.

A medium range ballistic missile with a range of 2500km will have minimum of 1% deviation. So it will miss his taget with 25km. Who cares what a jew is crying, are you building your army based on what your enemy is telling? Sorry if the Iranian armies works like that i am afraid that will bring more harm to your county.

 

[skyshadow]

A medium range ballistic missile with a range of 2500km will have minimum of 1% deviation. So it will miss his taget with 25km. Who cares what a jew is crying, are you building your army based on what your enemy is telling? Sorry if the Iranian armies works like that i am afraid that will bring more harm to your county.

well for us that 2500 km the ECP is 20 M not 25 KM, you see Iran defense doctrine is different than Turkey's one you building you army like US or Russia but we can not do that so we doing it in a different way.

 

[Hack-Hook]

A medium range ballistic missile with a range of 2500km will have minimum of 1% deviation. So it will miss his taget with 25km. Who cares what a jew is crying, are you building your army based on what your enemy is telling? Sorry if the Iranian armies works like that i am afraid that will bring more harm to your county.

Not exactly.
Tell me how we point our camera at a target and missile hit that target if it's supposed to have 1% of deviation?

That 1% is for an Scud missile.

 

[Timur]

even if the cep is 150 m a 1ton warhead will do a good job specially if you send multible of em...

but I think we need at least 750 km range for ballistic missles with 1 tons of one or multible warheads

the question is what is cheaper a 750km ballistic missle or a 750 km cruise missle?

 

[skyshadow]

even if the cep is 150 m a 1ton warhead will do a good job specially if you send multible of em...

but I think we need at least 750 km range for ballistic missles with 1 tons of one or multible warheads

the question is what is cheaper a 750km ballistic missle or a 750 km cruise missle?

how much is your cruise missiles or the ones that you buy?

 

[Turan09]

how much is your cruise missiles or the ones that you buy?

SOM is 1 million dollar for each... but I dont know if it is export price or local price...

 

[skyshadow]

SOM is 1 million dollar for each... but I dont know if it is export price or local price...

whaaaaat?

then go for ballistic missiles for sure with 1 million dollar we are building up to 2-3 Sejjil-2 ballistic missiles ( Sejjil-2 is our most expensive missile ) with the range of 2500 KM and up to 5-6 Dezful ballistic missiles with the range of 1000 KM.

Sejjil-2 ballistic missile

Dezful ballistic missile

 

[Mithridates]

whaaaaat?

then go for ballistic missiles for sure with 1 million dollar we are building up to 2-3 Sejjil-2 ballistic missiles ( Sejjil-2 is our most expensive missile ) with the range of 2500 KM and up to 5-6 Dezful ballistic missiles with the range of 1000 KM.

Sejjil-2 ballistic missile

Dezful ballistic missile

well bro once gen salami (if i'm not mistaken) said "for price of every f-16 with it's spares and munitions (200 M) we build 500 ballistic missile.

 

[skyshadow]

well bro once gen salami (if i'm not mistaken) said "for price of every f-16 with it's spares and munitions (200 M) we build 500 ballistic missile.

that what's i said 2-3 Sejjil-2 for every 1 million dollar

 

[UzaySan]

whaaaaat?

then go for ballistic missiles for sure with 1 million dollar we are building up to 2-3 Sejjil-2 ballistic missiles ( Sejjil-2 is our most expensive missile ) with the range of 2500 KM and up to 5-6 Dezful ballistic missiles with the range of 1000 KM.

Sejjil-2 ballistic missile

Dezful ballistic missile

well bro once gen salami (if i'm not mistaken) said "for price of every f-16 with it's spares and munitions (200 M) we build 500 ballistic missile.

This logic doesn't make sense. Som is a very advanced cruıse missile. And balistic missiles are not equalivent of cruıse missiles. If I need a computer, I buy a computer. I dont buy television just because televison is half price. They are different

 

[CAN_TR]

SOM is 1 million dollar for each... but I dont know if it is export price or local price...

May i ask where you get the information of SOM‘s price?

 

[Arsalan]

The thread is about Turkish Missile Program. Please do not bring in the Iranian missiles, we have a separate section/thread for that. Soft warning.

 

[UzaySan]

May i ask where you get the information of SOM‘s price?

https://www.mynet.com/roketsandan-milyon-dolarlik-uretim-110104052496

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/teknoloji/roketsandan-milyon-dolarlik-uretim-40812134

Roketsan president said "SOM Missile has a price over a million". So we can guess SOM's price is at least a million dollar.


ROKETSAN Genel Müdürü Yaşar: - "SOM füzesinin milyon doların üzerinde fiyatı var. Bu füzenin entegrasyonunu, son montajını 300 metrekare bir yerde yapıyoruz. Birçok küçük firma burada görev alıyor" - "Ürettiğimiz Cirit füzesi ya da SİHA'lardan atılan mini akıllı mühimmat MAM-L'nin kilogramı 2 bin doların üzerinde. Türkiye'nin ihracat kilogram fiyatı 1,4 dolar"