Sino-Turkish links at risk if anti-China sentiment left unchecked

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

I'm gonna start a seperate article about Turkey-China relations. I will Show as much facts as possible about the internal problems of Turkey and how Situation of Uyghur Turks are used in order to exploit sentimental culture of Turkish people by the right wing politicians.

However I wanna say that this is strictly a political issue and is nothing about Turkish people or culture. But just like our right wing politicians some idiot Chinese trolls try to spread very annoying ideas. There is still a very good portion of Turkish people who has no hard feelings against Chinese people.

Blame Turkish government as much as you want. But making racist comments against Turkish people like @Beidou2020 , @opruh , @+4vsgorillas-Apebane , @Jlaw and some others will only erode the respect that is shown to themselves.

Where did you read Turkey supports genocide? From where did you read Turks are islamic terrorists? Western media? If you guys really wanna use western media as Your intellectual compass, than open CNN pick some Random article about China and start to hate Your own country.

Salutations, you have summoned the resident gorilla of PDF.


In regards to your post, as the saying goes 'what goes around, comes around'

Your fellow countrymen and comrades have prodded and poked fun in the chinese forums for years now, led by the mangy and rabid wolf of PDF. You seem to be the exception as most of your comrades have posted relentlessly on Chinese collapse, Chinese poverty, Chinese fragmentation and Ughuyr seperatism and goes so far as to laugh about Japanese atrocities during ww2.

Cease Turkish prodding and mud slinging, reign in Atatwolf and anti Turkish sentiments will improve drastically.

A gorilla will thrash a wolf anyday. A pack of wolves even.

 

[Lure]

Salutations, you have summoned the resident gorilla of PDF.


In regards to your post, as the saying goes 'what goes around, comes around'

Your fellow countrymen and comrades have prodded and poked fun in the chinese forums for years now, led by the mangy and rabid wolf of PDF. You seem to be the exception as most of your comrades have posted relentlessly on Chinese collapse, Chinese poverty, Chinese fragmentation and Ughuyr seperatism and goes so far as to laugh about Japanese atrocities during ww2.

Cease Turkish prodding and mud slinging, reign in Atatwolf and anti Turkish sentiments will improve drastically.

A gorilla will thrash a wolf anyday. A pack of wolves even.

Well other than @atatwolf I don't see many Turkish members here that blindly hates China. But against a single hate-mongering person I see a Lot of Chinese members that replies with a similar racist tone and similar manner.

I mean do you honestly think about for what you are saying for just one second? You say you hate the "entire Turkish population" because of some chat room troll made some bad remarks about Chinese economy? Is that really what you say? Than you and Your "wolf pack" reply with the same twisted language and same hatret. Then what should I do now after reading that nonsense now? Start to hate Chinese people and talk bad about Chinese people and Chinese culture? I'm sorry but I know that you don't represent anything about Chinese culture, just like @atatwolf does not represent anything about Turkish culture. Both of you actually represent an artificial chauvenist culture that was created in Europe about 150 years ago. So you are actually very similar.

Such a remark is pathological at best. Please check Your logic before commenting. I don't wanna make ad hominem comment but this is not Healthy at best!

 

[atatwolf]

Well other than @atatwolf I don't see many Turkish members here that blindly hates China. But against a single hate-mongering person I see a Lot of Chinese members that replies with a similar racist tone and similar manner.

I mean do you honestly think about for what you are saying for just one second? You say you hate the "entire Turkish population" because of some chat room troll made some bad remarks about Chinese economy? Is that really what you say? Than you and Your "wolf pack" reply with the same twisted language and same hatret. Then what should I do now after reading that nonsense now? Start to hate Chinese people and talk bad about Chinese people and Chinese culture? I'm sorry but I know that you don't represent anything about Chinese culture, just like @atatwolf does not represent anything about Turkish culture. Both of you actually represent an artificial chauvenist culture that was created in Europe about 150 years ago. So you are actually very similar.

Such a remark is pathological at best. Please check Your logic before commenting. I don't wanna make ad hominem comment but this is not Healthy at best!

I don't hate Chinese but I have problems with the action of the Chinese government like all Turks. Please don't distort my position. To give an answer to your question why they hate us. They hate us because we don't turn a blind eye to Uighur like the Pakistani are doing. Recently @Sinan got banned for this.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Well other than @atatwolf I don't see many Turkish members here that blindly hates China. But against a single hate-mongering person I see a Lot of Chinese members that replies with a similar racist tone and similar manner.

I mean do you honestly think about for what you are saying for just one second? You say you hate the "entire Turkish population" because of some chat room troll made some bad remarks about Chinese economy? Is that really what you say? Than you and Your "wolf pack" reply with the same twisted language and same hatret. Then what should I do now after reading that nonsense now? Start to hate Chinese people and talk bad about Chinese people and Chinese culture? I'm sorry but I know that you don't represent anything about Chinese culture, just like @atatwolf does not represent anything about Turkish culture. Both of you actually represent an artificial chauvenist culture that was created in Europe about 150 years ago. So you are actually very similar.

Such a remark is pathological at best. Please check Your logic before commenting. I don't wanna make ad hominem comment but this is not Healthy at best!

Either you are feigning ignorance or just a blatant liar. The anti Chinese Turkish mobs have been throwing mud around in the Chinese section of PDF for a while now. When I came to these forums, most of my posts were China or India related and anything Turkish was way way way off my radar. How did it come to pass that such strong anti Turkish sentiments grew from near non existent to registering highly on the radar of all Chinese posters?

You reap what you sow.

Also, where did I post that "I hate the Turkish population"?
Please cite me on such strong wording.

In these forums I have posted my subjective opinions in all matter of subjects and I have as often as not criticized Chinese people for their failings as well.

Apparently making any criticism of Turks makes me a racist chauvinist.

So please stop the bullshit judgement, stop putting words in my mouth and stop playing the victim.


Btw, it is very apparent that Turks in this forum recieve very preferential treatment from the Mods. This has made you very audacious and callous in your comments.

 

[cnleio]

The American don't trust Turkey, The European don't trust Turkey ... The Russian dislike Turkey, The Chinese don't need Turkey too. There's no win-win relationship, only interest.

 

[atatwolf]

The American don't trust Turkey, The European don't trust Turkey ... The Russian dislike Turkey, The Chinese don't need Turkey too. There's no win-win relationship, only interest.

Everybody trusts China.

 

[Lure]

Either you are feigning ignorance or just a blatant liar. The anti Chinese Turkish mobs have been throwing mud around in the Chinese section of PDF for a while now. When I came to these forums, most of my posts were China or India related and anything Turkish was way way way off my radar. How did it come to pass that such strong anti Turkish sentiments grew from near non existent to registering highly on the radar of all Chinese posters?

You reap what you sow.

Also, where did I post that "I hate the Turkish population"?
Please cite me on such strong wording.

In these forums I have posted my subjective opinions in all matter of subjects and I have as often as not criticized Chinese people for their failings as well.

Apparently making any criticism of Turks makes me a racist chauvinist.

So please stop the bullshit judgement, stop putting words in my mouth and stop playing the victim.


Btw, it is very apparent that Turks in this forum recieve very preferential treatment from the Mods. This has made you very audacious and callous in your comments.

Well this is what you wrote : "
Gotta be careful when dealing with the Turks. They might only be an insignificant player, their military no threat whatsoever, their economic might negligible, their culture stagnant and their ambitions overblown to absurd proportions but you gotta be careful because.....ah, ....hmmmm......fcuk it I dont know."

@opruh should be banned for what he said just look at that : "The only thing Turkey can teach is how to blow yourself effectively with bombs."

And 8 people liked this twisted comment? Don't you see how problemmatic this is?

Now replace Turks, with Chinese. How did you feel when you did that? When you reply a Turkish "mob" like that you become a Chinese "mob". I mean should I really say these things? Can't you think how bad your comment is? You even make the same claims with @atatwolf . He says mods are in Chinese Side and you say the mods are in Turks' Side. You both are really very similar.

Of course critisizing "Turks" makes you a racist chauvenist. Are you really asking this question? What do you mean by Turks? Turks means Turkish people. You can't critisize Turkish people. Because all Turkish people does not think the same. For example @IR-TR and me does critisize Turkish governments foreign policy regarding Uyghur Turks. On the other hand @atatwolf is a devoted believer of that rhetoric. As I've told before you can and should like we do critisize Turkish government which clearly is corrupted and lacks integrity. But you can't critisize "Turks", I mean you can but that makes you a racist troll that should not be taken into account.

 

[amir_31]

Pak-china-turkey ..
FRIENDS 4 EVER

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Well this is what you wrote : "
Gotta be careful when dealing with the Turks. They might only be an insignificant player, their military no threat whatsoever, their economic might negligible, their culture stagnant and their ambitions overblown to absurd proportions but you gotta be careful because.....ah, ....hmmmm......fcuk it I dont know."

@opruh should be banned for what he said just look at that : "The only thing Turkey can teach is how to blow yourself effectively with bombs."

And 8 people liked this twisted comment? Don't you see how problemmatic this is?

Now replace Turks, with Chinese. How did you feel when you did that? When you reply a Turkish "mob" like that you become a Chinese "mob". I mean should I really say these things? Can't you think how bad your comment is? You even make the same claims with @atatwolf . He says mods are in Chinese Side and you say the mods are in Turks' Side. You both are really very similar.

Of course critisizing "Turks" makes you a racist chauvenist. Are you really asking this question? What do you mean by Turks? Turks means Turkish people. You can't critisize Turkish people. Because all Turkish people does not think the same. For example @IR-TR and me does critisize Turkish governments foreign policy regarding Uyghur Turks. On the other hand @atatwolf is a devoted believer of that rhetoric. As I've told before you can and should like we do critisize Turkish government which clearly is corrupted and lacks integrity. But you can't critisize "Turks", I mean you can but that makes you a racist troll that should not be taker into account.

Please cite me on hating Turks, this is no small allegation that you make.

You also lump me with other Chinese posters who are simply retailiating for Turkish comments in these forums.

My initial comment did have a touch of witticism but can you deny any of the claims?

Gotta be careful when dealing with the Turks. They might only be an insignificant player, their military no threat whatsoever, their economic might negligible, their culture stagnant and their ambitions overblown to absurd proportions but you gotta be careful because.....ah, ....hmmmm......fcuk it I dont know."

Or are you saying that Turkey is a significant player on the world stage, their military is a threat to China, their economy is enormous, its culture spreading and that people there do not yearn for the good old days of the Ottoman empire?

I have no beef with Turkish people but your comrades insist on coming to Chinese forums to prod and poke fun and now the local Chinese posters are retaliating.

Also, do not lump me with that rabid dog Atatwolf who is trolling this forum right now. I will never post mocking comments about any massacres of any people like your rabid comrade.

 

[cnleio]

Everybody trusts China.

Everyone wanna doing business with China, even Turkey so ur President today visit in BeiJing ... and promise to Xi, Turkey agree to anti-EastTurkistan.
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土耳其总统埃尔多安访问中国 斥责"东伊运"成亮点

As i ever told u before, ISIS around ur border will attack Turkey ... and here i tell another truth, EastTurkistan will die in Turkey coz now ur leader beg for China BeiJing ... Just Watch, situation changed !


The ISIS is the tool, the EastTurkistan also a tool ... don't mess with China.

 

[Place Of Space]

Well this is what you wrote : "
Gotta be careful when dealing with the Turks. They might only be an insignificant player, their military no threat whatsoever, their economic might negligible, their culture stagnant and their ambitions overblown to absurd proportions but you gotta be careful because.....ah, ....hmmmm......fcuk it I dont know."

@opruh should be banned for what he said just look at that : "The only thing Turkey can teach is how to blow yourself effectively with bombs."

And 8 people liked this twisted comment? Don't you see how problemmatic this is?

Now replace Turks, with Chinese. How did you feel when you did that? When you reply a Turkish "mob" like that you become a Chinese "mob". I mean should I really say these things? Can't you think how bad your comment is? You even make the same claims with @atatwolf . He says mods are in Chinese Side and you say the mods are in Turks' Side. You both are really very similar.

Of course critisizing "Turks" makes you a racist chauvenist. Are you really asking this question? What do you mean by Turks? Turks means Turkish people. You can't critisize Turkish people. Because all Turkish people does not think the same. For example @IR-TR and me does critisize Turkish governments foreign policy regarding Uyghur Turks. On the other hand @atatwolf is a devoted believer of that rhetoric. As I've told before you can and should like we do critisize Turkish government which clearly is corrupted and lacks integrity. But you can't critisize "Turks", I mean you can but that makes you a racist troll that should not be taken into account.

One thing the Turkish govt always haven't given publicity to your national folks clearly. Uighur is not Turk, Uighur has a Turk group but not equal to Turk. Uighur's establishment by China govt was in 1930's, they had a lots of groups according to living regions. Some's origin was Uzbekistani migrated to China in 19th century, some's origin was ancient India before Islamized, some' origin was Mongolian, some's origin was the native Huihu,some's origin was even Persian. You govt in the past spread too many incorrect informations educating people, which make some unnecessary misunderstanding, epecially in the nationalist's mind.

 

[Lure]

One thing the Turkish govt always haven't given publicity to your national folks clearly. Uighur is not Turk, Uighur has a Turk group but not equal to Turk. Uighur's establishment by China govt was in 1930's, they had a lots of groups according to living regions. Some's origin was Uzbekistani migrated to China in 19th century, some's origin was ancient India before Islamized, some' origin was Mongolian, some's origin was the native Huihu,some's origin was even Persian. You govt in the past spread too many incorrect informations educating people, which make some unnecessary misunderstanding, epecially in the nationalist's mind.

How many times should I say : I don't care about Uyghur Turks? A million times? For me Turk means people who are citizens of Turkey. Nothing more. Get it?

 

[Place Of Space]

Well other than @atatwolf I don't see many Turkish members here that blindly hates China. But against a single hate-mongering person I see a Lot of Chinese members that replies with a similar racist tone and similar manner.

I mean do you honestly think about for what you are saying for just one second? You say you hate the "entire Turkish population" because of some chat room troll made some bad remarks about Chinese economy? Is that really what you say? Than you and Your "wolf pack" reply with the same twisted language and same hatret. Then what should I do now after reading that nonsense now? Start to hate Chinese people and talk bad about Chinese people and Chinese culture? I'm sorry but I know that you don't represent anything about Chinese culture, just like @atatwolf does not represent anything about Turkish culture. Both of you actually represent an artificial chauvenist culture that was created in Europe about 150 years ago. So you are actually very similar.

Such a remark is pathological at best. Please check Your logic before commenting. I don't wanna make ad hominem comment but this is not Healthy at best!

And Uighur means "unite you and me", because before and in 1930's around, China faced Russian threats, all Chinese had to united together. Of course this ethnic name is by Uighurs' will and agreement after discussion.

How many times should I say : I don't care about Uyghur Turks? A million times? For me Turk means people who are citizens of Turkey. Nothing more. Get it?

This is the first time I met with you and talk to you. Actually I care them, pardon. lol

 

[Lure]

And Uighur means "unite you and me", because before and in 1930's around, China faced Russian threats, all Chinese had to united together. Of course this ethnic name is by Uighurs' will and agreement after discussion.




This is the first time I met with you and talk to you. Actually I care them, pardon. lol

Of course you should care them more than I do. They are Your fellow citizens. If you don't care about them, how would China will become a nation with all of it's entities?

 

[Lux de Veritas]

China and Turkey will be on collision if Turkey do not ditch pan-turkism.

The biggest and most immediate danger of Pan Turkism is not China but Iran. The Turks hate it when Iranian Azerbaijani looks to integrate with Persian than Istanbul.

China and Iran are natural ally.