Sidhu stirs new controversy, prefers Pakistan over South India

[lastofthepatriots]

As a Punjabi I don't feel close to indian punjabis at all.

 

[Gadkari]

EPIC FAIL Indeed !!

Muslim League was not formed for separate Muslim Nation State ... ML embraced the TWO NATION THEORY after 1937 elections only ...

Jinnah in fact had initially ridiculed the idea of "Pakstan" presented to him by Ch. Rehmat Ali ... Rahmat Ali invited Jinnah to a black-tie dinner at London`s Waldorf Hotel in the spring of 1933 . He had arranged Banquet with its oysters and un-Islamic chablis at his own expense hoping to persuade Jinnah to take over his movement . But Rahmat received a "chilly rebuff"

WRONG.

Muslim League was formed by muslim nawabs who were stooges of the British in 1906. This was done to support the British partition of Bengal along religious lines as per the 1905 declaration by Lord Curzon and in opposition to the CONgress party.

Its very purpose was to organize the partition of Bengal into Hindu Majority Bengal and Muslim Majority Bengal.

They even took part in the Bengal elections which CONgress BOYCOTTED and then went on to form a Muslim govt. in Bengal.

JInnah joined the Muslim League in 1913 and became its president in 1916.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Gandhi did not like Jinnah from day 1 . Jinnah welcomed Gandhi when he came to India in 1915 . Below is an excerpt from Jinnah: India-Partition-Independence; by Jaswant Singh; one of the founder members, of BJP.



Although the families of both Jinnah and Gandhi had once lived just about 40 miles or so apart in Kathiawar (Gujarat), this adjacency of their places of origin did nothing to bring their politics close together. At their very first meeting, at the Gurjar Sabha in January 1915, convened to felicitate Gandhi upon his return from South Africa, in response to a welcome speech, with Jinnah presiding,Gandhi had somewhat accommodatingly said he was 'glad to find a Muslim not only belonging to his own region's sabha but chairing it.' Gandhi had singled out Jinnah as a Muslim, though, neither in appearance or in conduct was Jinnah anywhere near to being any of the stereotypes of the religious identity ascribed by Gandhi. Jinnah, on the other hand, was far more fulsome in his praise.

Gandhi had reached India by boat in January 1915 when many leaders, including Jinnah and Gokhale, went to Bombay to give him an ovatious welcome. By this date Jinnah had already engaged as an all India leader and was committed to attaining his stated goals of unity, not just between the Muslims and the Hindus, Extremists and Moderates, but also among various classes of India. To receive Gandhi, Jinnah had forsaken attending the Madras Congress meet of 1914. Gandhi, upon reaching Bombay, had been warmly welcomed by Jinnah who wanted to enlist his services for the cause of Hindu-Muslim unity. It was because of his popularity and standing that Jinnah had been invited to preside over a garden party given by the Gurjar Sabha, an association of the Gurjar (Gujar) community, arranged to welcome Mr and Mrs Gandhi, on his arrival on 13 January 1915.

In his presidential address, Jinnah 'welcomed... Mr and Mrs Gandhi, not only on behalf of Bombay but on behalf of the whole of India.' He impressed upon Gandhi that the greatest problem was 'to bring about unanimity and co-operation between the two communities so that the demands of India (from Imperial Britain) may be made absolutely unanimously.' For this he desired 'that frame of mind, that state, that condition which they had to bring about between the two communities, when most of their problems, he had no doubt, would easily be solved.' Jinnah went to the extent of saying: 'Undoubtedly he [Gandhi] would not only become a worthy ornament but also a real worker whose equals there were very few.' This remark was greatly applauded by a largely Hindu audience, accounts of that meeting report. Gandhi, however, was cautious and somewhat circuitous in his response. He took the plea that he would study all the Indian questions from 'his own point of view,' a reasonable enough assertion; also because Gokhale had advised him to study the situation for at least a year before entering politics. This, too, was all right but then, needlessly, he thanked Jinnah for presiding over a Hindu gathering. This was an ungracious and discouraging response to Jinnah's warm welcome and had a dampening effect.

Gandhi, somewhat hesitant at first, could, in that early phase, see no other route but of following Gokhale, Jinnah and some of the other moderate leaders. This was also because (Bal Gangadhar) Tilak had also, by then, come around to the moderate line. Gandhi did cooperate with all of them, but only until about 1920, after which he clearly became the prominent voice and position. Besides, by then (1920) Gandhi had won acceptance from the British government too, even though that was through the good offices of Gokhale, who 'exerted the full weight of his prestige and influence upon the Viceroy, Lord Hardinge, to bring the Government of India solidly behind Gandhi.' This was the period when the British government, very concerned about Jinnah, his Hindu-Muslim unity moves, was endeavouring hard to keep the All India Muslim League away from the Indian National Congress

Jinnah successfully fought the sedition case for Tilak who belonged to the right wing faction of the congress. Gandhi belonged to the moderate faction of congress under Gokhale.

As a Punjabi I don't feel close to indian punjabis at all.

You have been brain washed successfully since birth.

 

[Gadkari]

Jinnah successfully fought the sedition case for Tilak who belonged to the right wing faction of the congress. Gandhi belonged to the moderate faction of congress under Gokhale.

Yeah, Jinnah did that for MONEY. He was a Lawyer by profession and a good one at that.

For the right amount of money, he would have fought for Gandhi and Hitler too.

 

[M. Sarmad]

WRONG.

Muslim League was formed by muslim nawabs who were stooges of the British in 1906. This was done to support the British partition of Bengal along religious lines as per the 1905 declaration by Lord Curzon and in opposition to the CONgress party.

Quite the contrary, Muslim League was formed in reaction to Partition of Bengal.
It however was an elitist party until 1937 elections.
But that is besides the point.

ML embraced the TWO NATION THEORY in late 1930's only ... So your assertions are baseless

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Yeah, Jinnah did that for MONEY. He was a Lawyer by profession and a good one at that.

For the right amount of money, he would have fought for Gandhi and Hitler too.

No Jinnah was already leading IML by then but he continued to remain as part Congress too. He wanted to merge IML & Congress under one umbrella and lead the united party but Gandhi & Nehru did not agree to demands for reservations for Muslims. This led to the failure of the talks. Gandhi was made the leader of congress in 1920. Jinnah resigned from the Congress and started fighting for Pakistan under IML instead of fighting for the independence of India from the British.

 

[American Pakistani]

Or worried about 'lene ke dene padna'

Woh aap log k bas ka nahi. You guys are trying very hard since last 50 years or so but have failed.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Jinnah successfully fought the sedition case for Tilak who belonged to the right wing faction of the congress. Gandhi belonged to the moderate faction of congress under Gokhale.

Yes, Gandhi sided with the British when Tilak was humiliated by lord Wellingdon, It was Jinnah not Gandhi who went out to avenge Tilak`s humiliation.

 

[pragmatic_dude]

I don't know why people are getting alarmed over it. I am sure people from tamil nadu will say they feel more at home in sri lanka then punjab.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Jinnah successfully fought the sedition case for Tilak who belonged to the right wing faction of the congress. Gandhi belonged to the moderate faction of congress under Gokhale.



You have been brain washed successfully since birth.

Not really you moron. We don't share the same values and speak Punjabi differently.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

I don't know why people are getting alarmed over it. I am sure people from tamil nadu will say they feel more at home in sri lanka then punjab.

Sri Lankans will not like it.

Don't worry. I will learn Sri Lankan too and share my love with them.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Yeah, Jinnah did that for MONEY. He was a Lawyer by profession and a good one at that.

For the right amount of money, he would have fought for Gandhi and Hitler too.

You may consider him whatever you want but he was declared the most incorruptible politician of the subcontinent by none other than Ambedkar

"Muslims will perhaps never get such an honest leader." [Lord MountBatten]

"Jinnah is incorruptible and brave" [Gandhi; Interview with Louis Fischer]

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Not really you moron. We don't share the same values and speak Punjabi differently.

You write differently too. You should send a letter of protest to Sidhu. How dare he.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

You write differently too. You should send a letter of protest to Sidhu. How dare he.

Are you Punjabi?

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

You may consider him whatever you want but he was declared the most incorruptible politician of the subcontinent by none other than Ambedkar

"Muslims will perhaps never get such an honest leader." [Lord MountBatten]

"Jinnah is incorruptible and brave" [Gandhi; Interview with Louis Fischer]

Ambedkar's father was a soldier in British Army. He was a stooge of the British.