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WASHINGTON: Pakistan has problems with the way it has been depicted as a military-dominated, terrorist-infested hellhole in the American television drama Homeland and has reportedly conveyed its unhappiness to the show's producers.

"Maligning a country that has been a close partner and ally of the US.... is a disservice not only to the security interests of the US. but also to the people of the US.," Pakistan Embassy spokesman Nadeem Hotiana was quoted as telling the New York Post on Saturday, adding, "Homeland makes it seem that Pakistan has contempt for Americans and its values and principles. That is not true."

The Emmy Award winning drama, a weekly hour of each episode watched by nearly two million people, concluded its season finale this weekend. It centers on the adventures of an unstable but stubborn and courageous female CIA operative who goes to Islamabad as the station chief in the fourth season of the drama (the first three were set in the middle east), to hunt down terrorists.

The 13 episodes in the fourth season were loosely based on real-life incidents, including references to the US nailing of Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Raymond Davis shoot-out, the Camp Chapman bombing that killed several CIA operatives and other instances reflecting US-Pakistan mistrust.

The Pakistani intelligence agency ISI is shown as a devious, double-dealing entity whose fostering of terrorist groups costs American lives, including from the bombing of the US embassy in Islamabad that results in the rupturing of ties between the two countries.

But in Pakistani eyes, "repeated insinuations that an intelligence agency of Pakistan is complicit in protecting the terrorists at the expense of innocent Pakistani civilians is not only absurd, but also an insult to the ultimate sacrifices of the thousands of Pakistani security personnel in the war against terrorism."

In reality though, US officials have directly accused Pakistan of fostering terror groups, a policy that has been well-chronicled and well-established over the years, just as Pakistan's constant denial of facts has led to it being dubbed "Denialistan." In fact, hundreds of reader comments in response to reports of Pakistani protests on the serial ridiculed the country, pointing out that Osama bin Laden was found hiding there.

Even Pakistan's own liberal, progressive commentators are shaming the country's "establishment" for its un-ending spin of conspiracy theories and self-deception. Surveys and polls have also shown that contrary to Hotiani's assertion that Pakistanis embrace American values, they are virulently anti-American.

The Post said Pakistan officials in the US binge-watched the popular serial, whose impact and fall out was reported in this paper last week. They took particular objection to the portrayal of Pakistani capital as a "grimy hellhole and war zone where shootouts and bombs go off with dead bodies scattered around," maintaining that "Islamabad is a quiet, picturesque city with beautiful mountains and lush greenery." They also had problems with the accents of actors speaking Urdu.

While the series was largely shot in Cape Town, South Africa, it did show "Islamabad" with its wide boulevards and green cover. But it also based episodes on the many terrorist incidents in Islamabad, including the Marriott Hotel bombing and attacks in nearby Rawalpindi. In one episode, the CIA chief refers to Pakistan as a "shithole," and says "it is not even a country, but a fucking acronym."

There was no word from the show's producers about their reaction to the Pakistani protest. David Nevins, President of Showtime network that produced the drama, has said the series won't be set in Pakistan when it returns for season five.

Shown as hellhole in US TV series, Pakistan fumes - The Times of India
 
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Live with it gents.We all do :

Lol someone in the comments got really mad. :lol:

And since when are Romanians (a Latin people) stereotypical Russians?
Romania is fucking gorgeous. Your puny White House can fit in the underground parking of Romania's Palace of The Parliament.
Dear 'murika, kindly, **** off, with love, from beautiful Romania where freedom is still a thing. Thats right NSA, you heard right, mah freedom.
 
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@xenon54 @Armstrong

I actually find it funny,i still laugh when i see the video.I think that some of my countrymen which stormed the comment section of the video should have taken it more lightly.It's the US,that's what they do in their media,no reason to panic over it.
 
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All Pakistan have to do is portray the US as an equal hellhole on Pakistani TVs. People will eat it all up.

Even if we had that kind of reach; its still wrong. The US is a wonderful place with wonderful people.

I think that there should at least be some media ethics in place so that these portrayals don't border on being slanderous.

@xenon54 @Armstrong

I actually find it funny,i still laugh when i see the video.I think that some of my countrymen which stormed the comment section of the video should have taken it more lightly.It's the US,that's what they do in their media,no reason to panic over it.

But its still a shameful presentation of things that reeks of slander.

I've never been to Romania but I'd be damned if I think its any of those unfortunate things.
 
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Even if we had that kind of reach; its still wrong. The US is a wonderful place with wonderful people.

I think that there should at least be some media ethics in place so that these portrayals don't border on being slanderous.

Media ethics means media restriction as u essentially can regulate anything.Someone will find something offensive all the time.In nutshell,not gonna happen.

Plus when pakistani channels are openly showing ahmedis, hindus and afgans as enemies then u have no reason to complain.

Same is my advice to some crybaby indians here.Deal with it.
 
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The US is a wonderful place with wonderful people.
Not really. We have race riots, wealth disparity, corruption, sexual deviancies, racism, and the dirty laundry list goes on and on. People should not come here, not even to visit.
 
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Media ethics means media restriction as u essentially can regulate anything.Someone will find something offensive all the time.

Plus when pakistani channels are openly showing ahmedis, hindus and afgans as enemies then u have no reason to complain.

Same is my advice to some crybaby indians here.Deal with it.

Pakistani channels are not openly showing any of that; those views are expressed on 'some' talk-shows and there is almost always someone there to counter them.

Our media needs to be regulated as well.

And Media Ethics does not mean Restrictions but having some basic professional ethics taught to people that 'saying XYZ' is alright but saying 'ABC' is border line libel; so avoid that.

Not really. We have race riots, wealth disparity, corruption, sexual deviancies, racism, and the dirty laundry list goes on and on. People should not come here, not even to visit.

If you say so ! :(
 
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Pakistani channels are not openly showing any of that; those views are expressed on 'some' talk-shows and there is almost always someone there to counter them.

They indeed are,i won't try to prove u wrong though but u get my point.Also USA portrays pakistanis as villains and never muslims.

U got to admit they have legitimate reasons to feel so with their obl and afganistan experience.I hope pakistan improves its perception in future,,but u cannot expect them to change before u make an actual difference on ground.
 
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All Pakistan have to do is portray the US as an equal hellhole on Pakistani TVs. People will eat it all up.

You are not asking for anything new!!

Why their TV channels, just have a walk on their street, you will find the love for Amrika.
 
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Apparently someone wasn't happy enough to have 1 thread on this subject and decided to make another.
That is so despicable; do the people who make these clips have no shame...no sense of honor ?
Are you a SouthPark virgin?! That show makes fun of shame and honor. It isn't something you should ever take seriously at all. Ever seen the Christmas Turd or Cartmans J-O-O Jew? That was Cartmen that said that?
 
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Apparently someone wasn't happy enough to have 1 thread on this subject and decided to make another.

Are you a SouthPark virgin?! That show makes fun of shame and honor. It isn't something you should ever take seriously at all. Ever seen the Christmas Turd or Cartmans J-O-O Jew? That was Cartmen that said that?

I've seen South Park before but that was a long time ago; I never recalled anything I saw whereby they dished out so much insults on anything.

They were more into challenging stereotypes in a rather obscene, if funny, manner.

But nothing like this.
 
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