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Should Pakistan recognize Israel?

Should pakistan recognize Israel?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • No

    Votes: 26 81.3%

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  1. What should pakistan do?
  2. What are the risks to Pakistan if it remains one of the only states that doesn't recognize Israel (exception Iran)?
  3. Would the new Zionist-Western-Arab alliance then place Pakistan in the same camp as Iran and destroy Pakistan via same sanctions?
  4. Is it time to join the Dejaali camp in order to survive or die with honor?
  5. With Arab states making peace with Israel... Mossad and Israel will wage full scale war against Pakistan with through India and directly. Can Pakistan handle the heat?
  6. Without Iranian oil, is Pakistan prepared to for the global onslaughts ... Even the UAE and Saudi Arabia the new Allies of Israel will be supporting terror outfits like TTP and Jahil Mullahs to break pakistan. Can a poor Pakistan survive the new Zionist Arab onslaughts?
  7. With the world Bank under Zionist control, can an indebted pakistan survive without loans?
Facing Zionist Dajaali Israel requires men with spines of steel..... Do we?
Pakistan is never ever going to recognize Israel no matter what. We will stand by our original decision until state of Palestine is created with entire Jerusalem as its capital.
 
there is the problem..
this world is driven by knowledge and work..not by gold..there are no shortcuts
everyone knows what is required, how many of us actually doing what is needed. we talk too much but when comes the stage of action we have lots of excuses for not doing.
What everyone should do, is to talk the talk, and walk the walk.
"What one gets, what he strives for" we run away from hard striving individually and collectively.
 
Turkey, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Iran, Morocco, Qatar, Algeria, Azerbaijan etc as well as other African and central asian countries.

Morocco have great shadow relation with Israel.

Azerbaijan is one of the best Israeli ally in Central Asia.

Bangladesh is India's governmental slave. Won't do anything such.

Rest of the countries can be considered.
 
We are ready to negotiate with India on Kashmir, it is India that is being stubborn and childish, how would we resolve Kashmir,

I don't think being "childish" is India's strategy... India is now officially pursuing an aggressive Hindutva policy of "Akhand Bharat" which uses its Islamaphobic stance to confront pakistan. Pakistani Neoliberal are still playing the foolish naive game of Hindu-Muslim Bhai Bhai...

It's a whole different strategy...
 
Just as the USA has military base in Bahrain... I expect Israel to create a military base in Bahrain and UAE ... They will encircle anyone not "recognizing" Israel.
 
Pakistan is never ever going to recognize Israel no matter what. We will stand by our original decision until state of Palestine is created with entire Jerusalem as its capital.

Never underestimate the Pakistani ability to sell out ..

Remember... Our then Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was inviting Modi to weddings ... Modi the Butcher of Gujrat, the Terrorist supporter of TTP, the Islamaphobic RSS member...
 
The Israeli Right has determined to destroy Masjid Al Aqsa next to build their 3rd temple and trigger the return of their Messiah. I believe the new Zionist-Arab will allow this to happen. They don't give 2 $hits ...

Will UAE break relationship with Israel if it destroys Masjid Al Aqsa??.. i don't think so...
 
. It doesn't makes sense how recognizing Israel will decrease threats from Israel + India, If anything it might lead to more double games and plays of deception.

This. Thank you.

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Jared Kushner urges Saudi to normalise ties with Israel
ReutersUpdated 18 Aug 2020
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“It would be very good for Saudi business, it would very good for Saudi's defence," says US president's son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner. — AP/File
US president's son-in-law and White House adviser Jared Kushner said on Monday that it would be in Saudi Arabia's interest to normalise ties with Israel as the UAE has agreed to do.

It would also weaken their common foe Iran's influence in the region and ultimately help the Palestinians, Kushner told reporters during a telephone briefing.




“It would be very good for Saudi business, it would very good for Saudi's defence, and, quite frankly, I think it would also help the Palestinian people,” Kushner said.

Saudi Arabia, the Arab world's biggest economy, has been silent on Trump's surprise announcement last Thursday that the UAE — a close US and Saudi ally — and Israel had decided to normalise relations.

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In return, Israel agreed to suspend the annexation of occupied West Bank territories, although Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the plan was not off the table in the long run.

Saudi King Salman and his son, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, had repeatedly expressed their desire for an independent Palestinian state with economic opportunities, Kushner said.

“What they basically said is that they [...] want to see the Palestinian people have a state and economic opportunities,” said Kushner, the architect of Trump's Middle East peace plan, which was wholly rejected by the Palestinians.

The landmark deal between UAE and Israel is only the third such accord the latter has struck with an Arab country, and raises the prospect of similar deals with other pro-Western Gulf states.

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Trump said leaders from the two countries would sign the agreement at the White House in the coming weeks.

Common enemy Iran
Saudi Arabia and Israel have a common enemy in Iran, which most Gulf countries have accused of supporting militant groups in the region.

“It is in the interest of a lot of these countries from a security point of view and from an economic point of view to have relations with Israel,” Kushner said.

“A lot of GCC countries want to have breakthroughs.

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“The more that countries come together like Israel and the UAE [...] the harder it will be for Iran to divide and conquer.”

“If you think about the people who don't want Saudi Arabia and Israel to make a peace agreement, the number one opponent for that is going to be Iran,” said Kushner. “That shows that is probably the right thing to do.”

Last week, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said the UAE's decision to normalise ties with Israel was a “big mistake” and warned “against opening the path of Israel to the region”.

On Monday, Vice Admiral Jim Malloy, commander of US Naval Forces in the Middle East, said he did not believe the recent UAE-Israel deal “heightens tension”.

“I think it is a tense region where partners need to operate closely together,” Malloy said in a telephone briefing.

Stance on US arms sales to Middle East not changed: Israel
Israel has not softened its opposition to any United States arms sales to the United Arab Emirates that could diminish its military superiority as part of the US-brokered normalisation of their ties, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said on Tuesday.

The statement followed a report in Israel's Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper that the Trump administration planned a “giant” sale of advanced F-35 jets to UAE as part of the Gulf country's move last week to normalise ties with Israel.

The US Embassy in Jerusalem and representatives of the UAE government did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Under understandings dating back decades, Washington has refrained from Middle East arms sales that could blunt Israel's “qualitative military edge” (QME). This has applied to the F-35, denied to Arab states, while Israel has bought and deployed it.

“In the talks [on the UAE normalisation deal], Israel did not change its consistent positions against the sale to any country in the Middle East of weapons and defence technologies that could tip the [military] balance,” Netanyahu's office said.

The Trump administration has signalled that UAE could clinch unspecified new US arms sales after last Thursday's normalisation announcement.

Intelligence Minister Eli Cohen, an observer in Netanyahu's security cabinet, said the decision-making forum had held no discussion about any changes to QME policy and that Israel had not agreed to any changes by the United States.

“Israel has not given its consent to coming along and changing the arrangement,” Cohen told public radio station Kan.
 
Oman, Israel discuss 'recent developments' after UAE deal

AFPUpdated 18 Aug 2020
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Oman's Foreign Minister Yusuf bin Alawi bin Abdullah calls for "comprehensive, just and lasting peace” in the Middle East. — AFP/File
Oman's foreign minister spoke to his Israeli counterpart on Monday, Muscat said, the first contact since Israel normalised ties with the United Arab Emirates last week.

Yusuf bin Alawi subsequently spoke with a top Palestinian official, Oman added.




The Israel-UAE deal, announced by United States President Donald Trump on Thursday, is only the third such accord Israel has struck with an Arab country, and raises the prospect of similar deals with other pro-Western Gulf states.

Bin Alawi and Israel's Gabi Ashkenazi spoke via telephone about “recent developments in the region”, Oman's foreign ministry said on Twitter.

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Bin Alawi told Ashkenazi that Oman “clearly reaffirms its position calling for a comprehensive, just and lasting peace” in the Middle East.

Bin Alawi also called for a “resumption of the peace process in order to satisfy the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people who aspire to an independent state".

While Oman and Israel do not have formal diplomatic relations, there have been several contacts between the two states, including in 2018, when the late sultan Qaboos received Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Muscat.

Also on Monday, bin Alawi spoke with senior Fatah official Jibril Rajub, who expressed his “appreciation of the role of the sultanate and its balanced and wise policy towards Arab issues and, foremost, the Palestinian question”, according to Oman's foreign ministry.

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The Palestinian Authority has voiced its “strong rejection and condemnation” of the Israeli-Emirati deal.

Gulf Cooperation Countries (GCC) Bahrain and Oman have welcomed the deal, while Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar have yet to comment.

Home to Islam's holiest sites, Saudi Arabia would face sensitive political calculations before a formal recognition of Israel.
 
Just as the USA has military base in Bahrain... I expect Israel to create a military base in Bahrain and UAE ... They will encircle anyone not "recognizing" Israel.

Exactly they are playing the long game brother. We need to deal with and pacify Oman now, before this becomes a serious issue.

That is the ideal launchpad for Israeli spy, etc. attacks on us.
 
Israel preparing for flights to UAE over Saudi Arabia
ReutersUpdated 18 Aug 2020
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu prepares to give a statement at Ben Gurion International Airport, in Lod, near Tel Aviv, Israel on August 17, 2020. — Reuters
JERUSALEM: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday that the Jewish state was preparing for direct flights, over Saudi Arabia, to the United Arab Emirates as part of its normalisation deal with the UAE.

Israel and UAE announced on Thursday that they would normalise diplomatic relations under a US-sponsored deal whose implementation could reshape Middle East politics from the Palestinian issue to the fight against Iran.




Netanyahu, briefed at Tel Aviv’s Ben-Gurion airport on plans for expanding flight activity curtailed by the coronavirus pandemic, gave no timeframe for the opening of an air link with the Gulf Arab country.

“We are currently working on enabling direct flights, over Saudi Arabia, between Tel Aviv and Dubai and Abu Dhabi,” Netanyahu told reporters, estimating the flight time at “about three hours, just like to Rome”.

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Saudi Arabia does not recognise Israel and its air space is closed to Israeli airliners.

Published in Dawn, August 18th, 2020
 
Exactly they are playing the long game brother. We need to deal with and pacify Oman now, before this becomes a serious issue.

That is the ideal launchpad for Israeli spy, etc. attacks on us.

I am truely horrified (at what is about to unfold)... We are seeing the prophecies of the Dejaal and End Times unfold before us at unprecedented pace!... This is supposed to be the worst time of fithna in human history... Are we (Pakistani) ready?
 
I am truely horrified (at what is about to unfold)... We are seeing the prophecies of the Dejaal and End Times unfold before us at unprecedented pace!... This is supposed to be the worst time of fithna in human history... Are we (Pakistani) ready?

Hell yeah we ready :o:
 
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