'Shaheed' not defined in defence or central forces: Govt

[Zarvan]

NEW DELHI: Government on Tuesday informed the Parliament that the term 'shaheed' or martyr is not defined "anywhere" and there is no official order to accord the same to defence or paramilitary personnel.

"There have been demands for giving shaheed/martyr status to the Central Armed Police Forces (CAPF) and Assam Rifles (AR) personnel killed in action. In the meeting of Committee of Secretaries held on September 14, 2011, Ministry of Defence indicated that shaheed/martyr is not defined anywhere and presently they are not issuing any order/notification to this effect in respect of defence personnel.

"Similarly, no status of shaheed/martyr is given to the CAPF and Assam Rifles. However, their families/next of kin are given full family pension under the Liberalised Pensionary award rules and lump sum ex-gratia compensation of Rs 15 lakh as per rules in addition to other benefits admissible," Minister of State for Home Kiren Rijiju said in a written reply in Lok Sabha.

The CAPFs like CRPF, BSF, ITBP, CISF, SSB and NSG have made representations to the Union Home Ministry that 'shaheed' salutation is being demanded by the personnel of these forces.

The Central Reserve Police Force, last year, had, however, issued in-house orders making it mandatory to use 'shaheed' before the name of a martyred personnel and in all communications vis-a-vis its slain men and women.

'Shaheed' not defined in defence or central forces: Govt - The Times of India

 

[third eye]

The Central Reserve Police Force, last year, had, however, issued in-house orders making it mandatory to use 'shaheed' before the name of a martyred personnel and in all communications vis-a-vis its slain men and women

This was a silly order.

How will it help ?

 

[Tipu7]

Shaheed term is used by Muslims only. It is not applicable on non muslims or khwarji elements.

 

[jarves]

Shaheed term is used by Muslims only. It is not applicable on non muslims or khwarji elements.

We are using it for decades and will keep using it

 

[vk17]

This was a silly order.

How will it help ?

Will help motivate CRPF and other CAPF soldiers giving life for this nations.

Small Salutations are just enough motivation for them to give their life, leaving their widow wife and orphan kids behind, for a NATION OF THANKLESS PEOPLE.

 

[vk17]

Well, I only see many likes when any big purchase for Army, Airforce and Navy is done, nobody cares when a CAPF soldiers die, no likes, no discussion, so emotional sensibility.

Nobody thinks what would his wife and kids do. Money is not everything.

And they fight for d**k measurement like Cat and Dogs, to prove they love India, what an IRONY...... Ashamed of such a Thankless nation

 

[Bilal.]

We are using it for decades and will keep using it

And we feel nothing but happiness on your adoption of Islamic culture and terminology

 

[Tipu7]

We are using it for decades and will keep using it

1: we are not burning.
2: u guys have no ideological strength which we people have.
3: u people r copy cats.
4: u people r still slaves of mind and start underestimating ur selves very soon
5: truth is truth, but if a Pakistani say it, its a lie (Indian logic)

 

[gslv]

I do not understand the use of the word shahid in non Islamic context. The word itself derives from the word shahda which is martyrdom in Islamic theology . No need to use such words in modern secular army like Indian army. We can always use some other words instead of it.

 

[jarves]

And we feel nothing but happiness on your adoption of Islamic culture and terminology

We are very accomodating and we do not call this accomodating but assimilation

 

[Bilal.]

We are very accomodating and we do not call this accomodating but assimilation

Well this time someone might have bit more than they can chew.

Afghanistan, check
Pakistan check
Bangladesh, check
Percentage again rising above 15% in India, check
Way higher birth rate, check

Our plan of capturing and converting more area in south asia going quite fine

 

[gslv mk3]

your adoption of Islamic culture and terminology

Arabic or Islamic ? There are similar terms meaning the same in other Semitic languages-Hebrew,Syriac

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Indians can say it all they want but their soldiers aren't shaheed. It doesn't affect us but it makes Indians look retarded.

 

[Manindra]

Well this time someone might have bit more than they can chew.

Afghanistan, check
Pakistan check
Bangladesh, check
Percentage again rising above 15% in India, check
Way higher birth rate, check

Our plan of capturing and converting more area in south asia going quite fine

Quantity can't give you quality.
Hordes of rabbits can't kill a single tiger.
A single Israel kicked whole Arabs out .

 

[tsinga]

And we feel nothing but happiness on your adoption of Islamic culture and terminology

Just as Indians feel happy when you use Sindh, or Sindhu or Indus and lakhs of other such words derived from Hindu culture and terminology.

Indians can say it all they want but their soldiers aren't shaheed. It doesn't affect us but it makes Indians look retarded.

Sure it does, thats why you are posting in this thread.

In our cultural context, Shaheed means Martyr. None of us actually give a crap what it means in your religion.