Several Mosques Attacked in France Overnight, No Casualties

[ozzy22]

Again not a single word which is relevant. As I said, if you cant reply...just stay calm.

It was you who quoted me. Which had no connection in what I was saying and did not make any sense.

 

[StormShadow]

It was you who quoted me. Which had no connection in what I was saying and did not make any sense.

Then say that it dosent make any sense and I'll try to clarify my stand. Instead of doing that, dodging and going offtopic dosent help. I voiced my opinion supporting west's intervention in the ME..nothing more nothing less.

 

[ozzy22]

Then say that it dosent make any sense and I'll try to clarify my stand. Instead of doing that, dodging and going offtopic dosent help. I voiced my opinion supporting west's intervention in the ME..nothing more nothing less.

Your whole point was that without Western intervention in the Middle East that they would be as worse of as Nigeria? Tell me are Iraq, Libya, Syria better off with Western interference? Have their actions not created more extremists?

 

[Audio]

So you agree this mess is partly to be blamed on the West and it's policy of interference.

Ofcourse, but this is not interference without connections to the inside, ie in other words, called upon interference.

 

[ozzy22]

Ofcourse, but this is not interference without connections to the inside, ie in other words, called upon interference.

Called upon by whom? You’re telling me the West is dictated by someone else? It seem like you're just making excuses.

 

[StormShadow]

Your whole point was that without Western intervention in the Middle East that they would be as worse of as Nigeria? Tell me are Iraq, Libya, Syria better off with Western interference? Have their actions not created more extremists?

When the west was present in the above said countries, we didnot hear much about terrorist attacks. Only after they left,fringe groups became world wide terrorist networks.

 

[ozzy22]

When the west was present in the above said countries, we didnot hear much about terrorist attacks. Only after they left,fringe groups became world wide terrorist networks.

Jesus Christ and his many miracles. Please give me strength from such stupidity and you were shocked with me not replying to you in a proper manner. Why does this forum only attract Indians like you. Sigh

 

[StormShadow]

Jesus Christ and his many miracles. Please give me strength from such stupidity and you were shocked with me not replying to you in a proper manner. Why does this forum only attract Indians like you. Sigh

If I'm not wrong, after the shock & awe, the sectarian violence erupted, it was the US which played a major role in controlling it. Those groups which were not able to spread their influence during US presence are now wrecking havoc over there...like the ISIS. What was so improper in it?

 

[Audio]

Called upon by whom? You’re telling me the West is dictated by someone else? It seem like you're just making excuses.

You are being obtuse. Interventions asked by Saudi's and GCC in general, to further their agenda vis a vis Iran. In return they offer stable supply of oil, are generous buyers of all sorts of stuff and don't meddle in much else.

 

[SQ8]

OMG ............. @Oscar is this true???? does muslims really have nothing to lose , thats why they are doing violence???

or this guy has gone insane

Muslims have the most to lose with violence. What is ironic is that.. No one really knew about rushdie, about the Dutch cartoon.. or This french magazine.. before Muslims had a problem with it. Had they ignored it, they would never really even know about people like this.

 

[ozzy22]

If I'm not wrong, after the shock & awe, the sectarian violence erupted, it was the US which played a major role in controlling it. Those groups which were not able to spread their influence during US presence are now wrecking havoc over there...like the ISIS. What was so improper in it?

So the US controlled and kept under check what they created? If it was all about keeping Iraq under control then they should of just kept Saddam in power, as he was really good at it. And ISIS has not become so powerful out of nowhere. The West and its allies in the region have been supporting them for awhile now. Unfortunately for them they didn't see them going to Iraq and committing such barbaric acts. It seems like some people just never learn.

 

[hussain0216]

Truth be told there has hardly been a reaction

there have been broad calls for tolerance and unity across the political spectrum (this could form the basis of finally accepting that islam is European and france has millions of citizens who are muslim


a couple of sound grenades at a handful of mosques when many thousands of other mosques have had no issues is a positive

 

[Audio]

Truth be told there has hardly been a reaction

there have been broad calls for tolerance and unity across the political spectrum (this could form the basis of finally accepting that islam is European and france has millions of citizens who are muslim


a couple of sound grenades at a handful of mosques when many thousands of other mosques have had no issues is a positive

Reaction will be on a political level and you cannot expect that in two days.

 

[hussain0216]

Reaction will be on a political level and you cannot expect that in two days.

Europe has massive underlying issues of racism and refusing to accept that different people some of whom may be 3rd and 4 generation citizens are french, german etc

if the deaths of these people finally forces political introspection then you finally have a basis for accepting the massive population of muslims in Europe

free speech isn't the only ideal worth defending so is equality, freedom, liberty and the end of racism and prejudice



some muslims may be against integration but many europeans have never accepted, welcomed or integrated immigrants


if Europe dosent deal with its hang ups then forget about free speech all of its ideals and rights will burn and it will become a dark place

simply electing far right parties wont save Europe it will make Europe not worth saving

 

[AUz]

Reaction will be on a political level and you cannot expect that in two days.

And what can that reaction be?

Any insights Audio?

At the very, very worst, ultra-right wing will come to power and put a complete ban on immigration from Muslim countries...then what?

Even if that happens, you still have near 20 million Muslims in EU, and around 50 million Muslims in Europe over-all (around 35 million if you don't count Russia). What will you want to happen?

Mass deportation of all Europeans who profess to be Muslims? A Muslim holocaust?