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Service in Indian forces no more attractive; 25 thousand troops take retirement



NEW DELHI, (SANA): The employment of Indian Army is no more attractive for the masses due to corruption, irregularities and non cooperative attitude of high command officers. During last three years 25 thousand soldiers including 1600 officers have been voluntarily retired from service.

Meanwhile more than one thousand soldiers have committed suicide during last ten years. According to a report of Indian Magazine Vishwamohanan Pillai was looking forward to welcoming his son home for Onam. Instead, what arrived at his doorstep was his son’s coffin. On 8 August, Arun V, a jawan of the 16th Light Cavalry regiment in Samba district of Jammu & Kashmir, committed suicide with his service weapon. Arun, 30, wanted to visit his family in Thiruvananthapuram during the holiday season, but his leave application was denied approval by his superiors. A frustrated Arun ended up taking his own life.

Rift within A jawan recently climbed atop a mobile tower in Delhi, alleging harassment from superiors

As soon as the news of his suicide broke, angry jawans protested against the officers concerned. The stand-off lasted for several hours. Additional troops had to be rushed to the spot to keep a lid on the situation and all the officers were moved out of their living quarters. The army ordered two courts of inquiry to probe the incident.

This incident came close on the heels of what happened at Nyoma sub-station at Leh involving the 226 Field Artillery regiment on 11-12 May.

An orderly allegedly misbehaved with the wife of a Major, who beat him up. Despite the jawan being in a critical condition, the Major refused to let him get any medical treatment. This led to outrage among the fellow jawans. When the news reached the Commanding Officer (CO), he rushed to the spot and took the Major to task.

Infuriated with the public dressing down, the Major and his colleagues beat up the CO. Seeing this, the jawans went berserk and thrashed the officers. Later, the General Officer Commanding in-charge was rushed to Leh to defuse the situation. The army downplayed the incident, calling it a “minor scuffle”, adding that a court of inquiry had been ordered.

When Army Chief Gen Bikram Singh was asked about the Samba incident, he termed the incident as an isolated one in the 1.13 million-strong Indian Army. He added that there was no connection between the suicide and the stand-off. “We are looking into the problems and trying to fix them,” he said.

The army chief was being economical with the truth. On 3 September, Defence Minister AK Antony told Parliament that Pillai’s suicide had led to “unrest” among the troops deployed in the Samba sector and that the suicide and the stand-off were not two different incidents. That was not all. Figures released by the defence minister revealed a scary picture, illustrating the level of disenchantment among the jawans and the officers.

According to Antony, more than 25,000 soldiers have opted for voluntary retirement in the past three years (10,315 in 2011, 7,249 in 2010 and 7,499 in 2009). He added that during the same period, more than 1,600 officers have either sought voluntary retirement or have resigned (this when the army is already reeling under a massive shortage of close to 12,000 officers). He also revealed that since 2003, more than 1,000 jawans have committed suicide.

So, what’s ailing the Indian Army? Why are the jawans and officers treating each other like enemies? Some officers are blaming the shortage of officers coupled with the dwindling quality of the recruits.

Since 2009, over 25,000 jawans have opted for voluntary retirement, and 1,000 plus have committed suicide since 2003

“The army has expanded a lot and there is a lack of quality due to it,” says Maj Gen (retd) Afsir Karim. “There is a structural problem in the way officers are recruited. There is also a problem with the higher command. They indirectly affect things like how the men are treated, where they are deployed.”

Maj Gen (retd) GD Bakshi has a different take. He believes that strong bonds are rarely formed between jawans and officers in a peacetime army. “Combat is the biggest glue,” he says. “It is the combat stress that makes you face death together.”

According to officers, there is a lack of communication between the commanding officers and jawans. One of the reasons is that there are not enough officers and secondly, not enough responsibility is given to the Junior Commissioned Officer, the critical link between the jawans and the officers.

There is also a class bias. All financial handlings, court of inquiry, etc. are handled by officers. While a combat battalion requires 21 officers, only one-third of posts are filled on the ground. So every officer is, in effect, doing the job of three officers. That does not give adequate time to an officer to interact with his men as it should have been.

According to Lt Gen (retd) Raj Kadyan, “In our time, we used to have a notebook that had the personal details of every jawan under us such as his likes, dislikes, eccentricities, family, etc. Now, that kind of activity needs a lot of time because of the lopsided men-officer ratio.”

Officers also blame the lack of promotion options. According to a former commander, “Only 25 percent of the officers become Colonels; and only 0.05 percent get the chance of becoming a General. My batch had 1,200 commissioned officers and I was the only one who became a commander. There is plenty of frustration among the officer corps. After spending many years, everybody wants a good rank.”

The bulk of the jawans who used to join the army earlier came from villages, with little exposure. In the past 15-20 years, most of the jawans have been coming from semi-urban and urban areas. They are more educated and highly aspirational. They are not keen on blindly following their superior’s orders.

IN 2007, Antony had asked the Defence Institute of Psychological Research (DIPR) to investigate suicides and fratricide in the army. The DIPR concluded that high workload, lack of adequate rest and leaves, non-abundance of basic amenities and domestic concerns coupled with inadequate and insufficient support from the civil administration were the most prevalent factors causing stress among troops.

According to Maj Gen (retd) GD Bakshi, “A lot has changed in the past 20 years. The reality is that there is lack of respect for the army. Earlier, it was a matter of pride to be in the army. People would look up to you with awe. Now, you are a fool, wasting your prime for nothing.”

Senior officers admit that the recent cases of corruption involving top generals have also not helped the cause.

After his statement in Parliament, Antony met the three service chiefs and discussed the issues of suicides, retirements and fratricide. He asked the chiefs to ensure that officers should be liberal while granting leaves to jawans. He also asked the defence ministry to get in touch with the railways to ensure that whenever a jawan goes on leave, he immediately gets a reservation.

While the ministry is making all the right noises, it is for the army to do some serious introspection about effective man management skills that not only treats its jawans well, but also takes into account the society’s changing aspiration.


Service in Indian forces no more attractive; 25 thousand troops take retirement
 
something need to change here in academic ?:) IA may change its system little bit for make them happy
 
Taking the individual year's data for the past three years & adding it to form a large figure is an old media tactic to form "BREAKING NEWS" :hitwall:

25000 of the 1130000 army comes out to be no more than 2.21% of the servicemen who have taken voluntary retirement & the data is spread over 3 years time.

+ 1000 suicides in last 10 years, this comes out to be 0.088%, that means .8/1000 soldiers commit suicide & the data is spread over a 10 year time period, give me a break, even normal suicide rate in any other job will be around this figure.
 
Again ???
25000 took VRS since 2009. Nearly 8500/per in 1.13 million army.
1000 sucides from 2003. Nearly 100-110/per in 1.13 million army

I am bad at Maths can somebody calculate the percentage and compare it with some OTHER armies in neighbourhood :P

I wish people see the rush at induction camps :D

Edit: Oh didn't see upper post
 
US army has the highest scuicide rate.....and about people loosing interest on Indian army their are millions of young men who line up everyday to join IA...millons of young boys and girls who appear NDA exams and only few are selected...
 
Obviously they also have options in other sector after experience in armed force. Its not pakistan where there is nothing after Army.
 
Obviously they also have options in other sector after experience in armed force. Its not pakistan where there is nothing after Army.

rant as much as you can at the end you guys have nothing but bash pakistan .180mn pakistanis are in army ?:tdown:
 
Ya definatly :D but you know there are some people who love these kinda news and try everything to make sensation :P you know what I mean

Yup, looking at the sources, those people can only be Indians.
 
rant as much as you can at the end you guys have nothing but bash pakistan .180mn pakistanis are in army ?:tdown:
I don't think that was a rant Imran sir.I don't know about Pak army but It's fact in Indian army. After serving 15/20 years people know they aren't going to get higher promotions then they opt to retire and took jobs in private sector which pay good and near home. After all what can you expect from a Man in his 40s ??? Anyway they make way for Young. So not a big deal
 
I don't think that was a rant Imran sir. It's fact in Indian army. After serving 15/20 years people know they aren't going to get higher promotions then they opt to retire and took jobs in private sector which pay good and near home. After all what can you expect from a Man in his 40s ??? Anyway they make way for Young. So not a big deal

Sometimes reading the article helps. May be the soldiers retire to make way for......cadets. :D

According to Antony, more than 25,000 soldiers have opted for voluntary retirement in the past three years
 
I don't think that was a rant Imran sir.I don't know about Pak army but It's fact in Indian army. After serving 15/20 years people know they aren't going to get higher promotions then they opt to retire and took jobs in private sector which pay good and near home. After all what can you expect from a Man in his 40s ??? Anyway they make way for Young. So not a big deal

well really its not bad nor wrong but the guys was ranting pakistan because OP is pakistani? thousands of companies and millions of private business in pakistan are same like any other country on earth .
 
did anyone check his source ? hehehehhe.....SANA NEWS ...some ISI sponsored Pakistani Islamic J!hadi news agency, which never heard before ....hahahaha....who is going to buy this :lol: :rofl::rofl:

Lol.....typical Indian in denial.....will grasp to any straws rather than facing reality.
What, no comments on the other three sources also available to enlighten you. See if your laughing gear can buy this.

Over 10,000 Soldiers Bid Adieu to Indian Army
 
Sometimes reading the article helps. May be the soldiers retire to make way for......cadets. :D

Sometime reading the post before quoting helps my friend :D
I was talking to Imran sir in totally OUT of article point. Something I experience. Not outta article Anyway senior cadets are always over 18 years. So they can in-roll.
These is a direct service commission for senior cadets with C cert
 
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