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Secret US-Syrian dialogue for coordinating counter-ISIS operations in Syria led up to Obama speech

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Secret US-Syrian dialogue for coordinating counter-ISIS operations in Syria led up to Obama speech


Shortly before US President Barack Obama was to unveil his strategy for tackling ISIS in Iraq and Syria on Wednesday, Sept. 10, US and Syrian officers held secret talks for coordinating their military efforts against the common foe, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. This is revealed exclusively by debkafile’s military and intelligence sources.

The Syrian officers, on the authority of President Bashar Assad, met on the quiet several times with American officers in the capital of one of the Gulf emirates – most probably Muscat in Oman – to prepare the ground for the US and coalition to extend the military campaign against IS into Syria. Tehran was almost certainly in on the dialogue, which brought together US and Syrian officials for the first time in the nearly four years of the Syrian civil war.

Our military experts say that the US campaign will be a lot more complicated militarily on the Syrian side of the the Islamic State than parallel operations in Iraq – although IS strongholds in northern and eastern Syria should not be hard to bomb from the air.

But it must be taken for granted that the ISIS commander, Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, who has proved to be a competent military tactician, will not leave his troops in place to wait for US bombers, but has already moved them to safe hideouts, either in the mountains of northern Syria, the Syrian desert that spreads over into Iraq, or in the dense vegetation on the banks of the Euphrates River, good places from which to conduct protracted guerilla warfare.

Our military sources believe that Baghdadi has probably discovered that the US-led military campaign against him will lead off in Iraq - and only then expand into Syria. To prevent an IS counteroffensive taking off and gaining more ground straight after the Obama speech, the US military must go into action against its strongholds in Iraq - and only then turn to Syria.

This will also be the message US Secretary of State John Kerry conveys to Arab foreign ministers when he meets them in Jeddah Wednesday and Thursday in an attempt to draw them into a coalition for fighting the Islamists. Before his speech, President Obama put in a call to Saudi King Abdullah, the key to an Arab lineup behind the effort.
 
bump, any thoughts ?

I would give my thoughts. But, people will ignore me. Because most people don't consider Debkafile to be reliable. Sometimes they have factual data but sometimes they have pointless write ups as if children wrote them.
 
I would give my thoughts. But, people will ignore me. Because most people don't consider Debkafile to be reliable. Sometimes they have factual data but sometimes they have pointless write ups as if children wrote them.
go on, I'm interested in what you might have to say. I know you hate the jooz and the state of Israel etc but Debka have been super accurate on many occasions before. debka =/= infowars
 
go on, I'm interested in what you might have to say. I know you hate the jooz and the state of Israel etc but Debka have been super accurate on many occasions before. debka =/= infowars

Hate 'jooz'? No, Israel hates us, murders us, steals our land, resources, commits state sponsored violence against us, and prevents our basic rights. You have it the other way around.

Anyways, no it isn't reliable. It just takes some facts, twists them around to make a story for their viewers to read. Then talks about a 'plot' which they are informed of by their 'sources'.
 
how many sons of Syria have we helped kill by arming and training so called "Moderate Terrorists"
but then again how many sons of Syria have been killed by ISIS
enemy of my enemy is my friend I guess.
 
Hate 'jooz'? No, Israel hates us, murders us, steals our land, resources, commits state sponsored violence against us, and prevents our basic rights. You have it the other way around.
Anyways, no it isn't reliable. It just takes some facts, twists them around to make a story for their viewers to read. Then talks about a 'plot' which they are informed of by their 'sources'.
ok then, but how about if this was hypothetically true ? or are you dismissing this particular piece of news as completely rubbish ?

anyway, I'll add my 2 bits here:

if indeed this is true, that there have been back channel between Obama and Assad about a counter IS strategy, then I'd say that the US has finally come around to the realization that a stable middle east > unstable middle east. One of the keys to a stable ME is destroying ISIS, and all the talk of more aid to the rebels to fight ISIS is just so they don't upset the Sauds (who would be pleased to see ISIS go). The endgame here might be to clean up a bit of this mess, restore some order, leave Assad in charge of Syria even if they don't like it.. and in the end create a reasonable balance of power between the Saudis and Iran (finalize a nuke deal, which would put Israel at ease + be profitable to the US)

The bigger game is the Pacific, vs China.. their big foreign policy "pivot"
 
this moderation things is annoying
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.. @Hazzy997 @anyone else ?
 
@gau8av

No, it isn't true. Because the West still plays its cards on both sides. They see Assad is very weak. Iran also ended financial support to him. Hezbollah is reducing forces in Syria. Everything has been exhausted and it won't work. Iran was hoping the West would come to them to use Assad's rule as a card at negotiations but it didn't work. The West just wants to prevent ISIL advances in Syria because Arab League wants to do an 'intiative' now. So the whole plan was to split Syria in two. All those lives lost because this sick Western agenda.

The West now prefers it to be split. And they don't want any more advances by Syrian opposition which is why they say attacking IS. In reality they want to keep the status quo as it is. The Syrian opposition realizes this whole game now. And they should do everything possible to advance on the ground.
 
so the west is working toward a status quo here and regime change in Syria isn't their goal right now ? hmm, interesting about Iran and Hezbollah's diminishing role there, got an english language link to any of it ?

going by this recent conflict map, I don't think there will be a clash between Syrian air defence and possible US bombing raids. Agree on the west playing it's cards both sides, which is why I said they might just want to leave a power balance in the region.. we'll see in the months and years ahead I guess.
 
next time get someone from liberia
though i don't think one individual makes all the policies

I'm going to dig Reagan up. His rotted corpse would be a better President than Obama.:usflag:
 
so the west is working toward a status quo here and regime change in Syria isn't their goal right now ? hmm, interesting about Iran and Hezbollah's diminishing role there, got an english language link to any of it ?

going by this recent conflict map, I don't think there will be a clash between Syrian air defence and possible US bombing raids. Agree on the west playing it's cards both sides, which is why I said they might just want to leave a power balance in the region.. we'll see in the months and years ahead I guess.

I don't have an english link, it is Arabic analysis. But, the West seeks to keep Iran's allies week/On verge of more conflict in Syria to keep pressure on Iran but also keep Arab nations from making their own moves so they could stay under Western sphere of influence. It also wants them to both have priorities of opposing interests in the region to make Israel have the better hand. So the Israeli/Palestinian subject won't be important anymore(that's what they want so Israel can annex West Bank and get away with it).

They may demand either a new national government with representatives from both sides and agree to give rebels half of country or try to end fighting but keep each side controlling one side.

I think Assad will accept this. And also some elements from the opposition, although some people from opposition may not like that idea. And they can change it around if they play it right.
 
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