SEAL shirt from Bin Laden raid in Pak goes on show

[StormShadow]

You didn't understand my question.

The operation did take place, the helis did come, one of them crashed.

The question is to establish the identity of OBL through forensics, ballistics and audio visual science rather than 'eye witnesses'.

Here is something for you to think about.

Imagine if OBL was killed by SSG instead of US SEALS, what would have been the aftermath for Pakistan?

On the same lines, Why would AQ vow revenge attacks on US? They themselves believed obl was taken out by the seals rite....then what is the reason for you not to believe?

Osama bin Laden death: Al-Qaida vows to carry out revenge attacks on US | World news | The Guardian

 

[cleverrider]

The alleged incident is a dirty secret closely guarded by the CIA and ISI.

We know why ISI closely guarded the entire episode. Purely a huge embarrasment for them, they were exposed to the people of Pakistan. Only good with their little tricks at home, where there is no adversary. There was enough evidence left by the americans in abbottabad for them to deny whatever happened.

Recently they have successfully placed the "GOP" in their Size of Box.

 

[acetophenol]

You didn't understand my question.

The operation did take place, the helis did come, one of them crashed.

The question is to establish the identity of OBL through forensics, ballistics and audio visual science rather than 'eye witnesses'.

Here is something for you to think about.

Imagine if OBL was killed by SSG instead of US SEALS, what would have been the aftermath for Pakistan?

I am not getting you sir, there are no evidence to prove that OBL is still alive. The Americans claim to have cross verified the identity of OBL, and they do give a valid reason for not releasing any picture of his dead body. If OBL wasn't killed in that raid, then what was the purpose of that daring raid,in your opinion?

 

[Amaa'n]

not this thread again ----

 

[Esc8781]

Pfft, it's a fake.

http://img.***************/pictures/data/3185/medium/fuel-pump-boost-of-crashed-helicopter-osamabinladen-01.png

http://www.***************/pictures/data/3185/medium/fuel-pump-boost-of-crashed-helicopter-osamabinladen-defencetalk.png

Then whats your opinion about the raid on that day and the crashed helicopter?

 

[Kompromat]

On the same lines, Why would AQ vow revenge attacks on US? They themselves believed obl was taken out by the seals rite....then what is the reason for you not to believe?

Osama bin Laden death: Al-Qaida vows to carry out revenge attacks on US | World news | The Guardian[/[url="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/06/osama-bin-laden-al-qaida-revenge"]Osama bin Laden death: Al-Qaida vows to carry out revenge attacks on US | World news | The Guardian[/[url="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/06/osama-bin-laden-al-qaida-revenge"]Osama bin[/url][/url]

On the same lines, Why would AQ vow revenge attacks on US? They themselves believed obl was taken out by the seals rite....then what is the reason for you not to believe?

Osama bin Laden death: Al-Qaida vows to carry out revenge attacks on US | World news | The Guardian[/[url="http:/[url="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/06/osama-bin-laden-al-qaida-revenge"]Osama bin Laden death: Al-Qaida vows to carry out revenge attacks on US | World news | The Guardian[/[url="http://www.[/url][/url][/quote]

[quote="StormShadow, post: 6155931, member: 36297"]On the same lines, Why would AQ vow revenge attacks on US? They themselves believed obl was taken out by the seals rite....then what is the reason for you not to believe?

[url="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/06/osama-bin-laden-al-qaida-revenge"]Osama bin Laden death: Al-Qaida vows to carry out revenge attacks on US | World news | The Guardian[/[url="http:/[url="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/06/osama-bin-laden-al-qaida-revenge"]Osama bin Laden death: Al-Qaida vows to carry out revenge attacks on US | World news | The Guardian[/[url="http://www.[/url]

 

[StormShadow]

^^^ Problem mod?

 

[Kompromat]

I am not getting you sir, there are no evidence to prove that OBL is still alive. The Americans claim to have cross verified the identity of OBL, and they do give a valid reason for not releasing any picture of his dead body. If OBL wasn't killed in that raid, then what was the purpose of that daring raid,in your opinion?

* OBL is dead. When or how remains an unproven fact.

* Americans claimed a lot of things that were just not true. i.e, their claim that Pakistan had no prior knowledge of the pending attack. Some Evidence suggests otherwise.

* Well....how would the most powerful Army in the world would have looked, returning home without being able to kill one man on dialysis machine, for 10 year, after spending trillions of dollars and thousands of casualties?

@StormShadow

There are a number of reasons.

* No such 'revenge attack' has been carried out on the US, which kind of validates what i stated earlier about SSG killing OBL.

* I don't trust the terrorists or their statements. They are mercenaries who can't be trusted.

 

[StormShadow]

@StormShadow

There are a number of reasons.

* No such 'revenge attack' has been carried out on the US, which kind of validates what i stated earlier about SSG killing OBL.

Maybe they failed till now. As of now, they are struggling to compete with ISIS....forget targeting US.

* I don't trust the terrorists or their statements. They are mercenaries who can't be trusted.

It's not just a statement!! It's a threat. And you cannot just afford to let their guard down claiming it to be a statement made by mercenaries! Even Hafeez Sayeed is convinced that seals killed osama!!?? Why is it that you are reluctant to do so!?

 

[VCheng]

* OBL is dead. When or how remains an unproven fact.

The manner and time of his death are clearly established. You choose not to accept the evidence, that is all. But it is your right to ignore facts in the face of proof. It's okay. The world moves on.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

What sort of "hard evidence" would be acceptable to you Sir, for establishing the date and location of his demise?

Maybe something like a "Death Certificate" spelling out the name, date, time and cause of death (Natural causes or Unnatural causes) etc. etc. signed by a Medical Practioner and with the number of his registry.

 

[Kompromat]

@StormShadow

Terrorists threaten time and again. They also threatened to hoist their flag on the White House. None of them have a shred of credibility.

@Syed.Ali.Haider

There is no hard evidence present before me to make an informed judgement abot the claims made by Obama, the CIA or ISI.

I'm not ignoring anything as i have nothing presented before me to ignore except media frenzy which is not a valid evidence.

In the end, the Democrats secured another term, US public received a doze of jingoism in return for a decade of paying for the war through their taxes, and the US Generals have managed to avoid total post exit embarrassment.

Not a bad deal at the end..

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Authorities in Pakistan have access to half of OBL's brain and a lot of his blood to conduct these test and release the results, if they want to do so.

Another HRC Report?
And was'nt there a Report on the "Abbottabad Activity" also; which was never released in Pakistan; but leaked by Al-Jazeera ?

If Obama thinks that everyone is convinced over his little story, than he's fooling himself.

Well on one side, there is Obama. And on the other side there is you.......
So?

 

[Kompromat]

I've read the ACR. It doesn't contain anything to establish the chain of events as advertised.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

I've read the ACR. It doesn't contain anything to establish the chain of events as advertised.

So; do the ISI and the GoP have something to hide, to suppress from the public?