Scientific evidence that Hindu civilization is more than 15,000 years old

[sinait]

lol.

Last I checked 100,000 Hindu were ethnically cleansed from kashmir and were living in Refugee camps.

I did not see Singapore come forward to offer them refugee or citizenship.

Come to think of it, I haven't seen Singapore offer refugee to a 100,000 Tibetans either. Or to Rohingya refugees or to Tamil Refugees.

LOL at your "outrage" Its as fake as your sense of morality or ethics.

We do not want MORE people.
We are NOT interested in DEMOGRAPHIC DIVIDEND.
Especially NOT MORE Hindoos.
Former Tibetan SLAVE OWNING Criminals not welcomed as well.

Don't offshore your DEMOGRAPHIC DIVIDEND to others.
.

 

[Shankranthi]

We do not want MORE people.
We are NOT interested in DEMOGRAPHIC DIVIDEND.
Especially NOT MORE Hindoos.
Former Tibetan SLAVE OWNING Criminals not welcomed as well.

Don't offshore your DEMOGRAPHIC DIVIDEND to others.
.

but .... but ..... but ...... what about your "outrage" ?

 

[Imran Khan]

1. Archaeological evidence you seek was provided in this very thread with his post about "Syria".

This is a ancient 2000 year old Vishnu idol found in Russia. This is apart from the 4,000 year old settlement found in Russia with Hindu swasthika.

This is an ancient 2,300 year old Indian statue of Yakshi (mistakenly identified as lakshmi) found in Pompeii f the Roman Empire.

This are murals of Shiva from China,

There is evidence in the form of "GOLD STANDARD" which was the currency standard in India and became a global standard before the US dollar replaced it.

There is evidence in the form of currency called Dinhar to Rupya spread from Arabia to Vietnam, which is based on the ancient Indian currency.

There is evidence spread all over the world, you remain blind to it because you choose to be blinded by your prejudice.

Heard of Peacock in king solomens court ? Peacocks are found in India.


2. The decline of the society and civilization is a long story by itself. Its an entire 2000 years of history.

3. No idea about aliens.

4. Every Hindu knows his history till told otherwise by communists or "secular" Indians that seek to undermine our history and civilizational values.



It is history, but its also our roots that nourish our present.



Maybe not from the sands of arabia, but India is ancient and so is its civilization.

Yeah i know even today india is very civilzed place hahhaahaha . Arab or indians or anyone all of the mankind was ignorant like animals

 

[Kedardel]

I understand your zeal to spread the your perceived truth. But it’s a defence thread not religious. For once imagine if all u believe is false and he doesn’t care. Plz note battle of Karbala didn’t have any idolators. Stop hatred against human beings. I won’t reply further.

In past before arrival of Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) those who did acts against orders of ALLAH ALMIGHTY were given severe punishment and there complete generation and civilization came to an end due to earthquakes,storms and other natural disasters but now after Final Prophet (P.B.U.H) this type of punishment has ended and earthquakes,floods and other disasters cause damage but much less and not eliminate whole civilization and generation of human race like in past.The hardship suffered by Muslims are temporary and will end in future and after death but nonMuslims and idol worshippers will suffer forever after death

 

[Shankranthi]

Extremely informative and interesting article.

Questions however arise while modern accepted archeology or lets just say Science, puts it around 12-13000 BCE.

But

Locals claim to have inhabited these lands for atleast 200000 years. The Puranas and other scriptures account events with dates that are pre flood in nature. Why are they easily discredited?

This was about Hindu civilization. Not human civilization or even Indian civilization.

Vedas are older than the Surya Siddhantha.

Indian civilization is clearly older than the Vedas.

Bhimbetka caves are dated to be over 500,000 years old to 1,00,000 years old. Imagine that.

There is even a cave painting of a Giraffe which would have existed when India was a grass land and not a forest.

 

[El Sidd]

This was about Hindu civilization. Not human civilization or even Indian civilization.

Vedas are older than the Surya Siddhantha.

Indian civilization is clearly older than the Vedas.

Bhimbetka caves are dated to be over 500,000 years old to 1,00,000 years old. Imagine that.

There is even a cave painting of a Giraffe which would have existed when India was a grass land and not a forest.

you cannot carbon date rocks and stones.

i think most of this gets lost in translation

 

[Shankranthi]

Yeah i know even today india is very civilzed place hahhaahaha . Arab or indians or anyone all of the mankind was ignorant like animals

Civilized enough to absorb islamic terrorism and communist terror and still react in a very civilized way.

you cannot carbon date rocks and stones.

i think most of this gets lost in translation

https://www.jstor.org/stable/42931498?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/prehistoric/bhimbetka-petroglyphs.htm

Bhimbetka Petroglyphs (290,000-700,000 BCE)
Cupules at Auditorium Cave & Daraki-Chattan Rock Shelter
The oldest known prehistoric art is the series of petroglyphs discovered during the 1990s in two ancient quartzite caves in India: the Auditorium Cave at Bhimbetka and a rock shelter at Daraki-Chattan. This cave art consists of numerous cupules - non-utilitarian hemispherical cup-shaped depressions - hammered out of the rock surface. Geological investigations of the prehistoric sites by renowned archeologists Bednarik, Kumar and others, have established that this rock art pre-dates the Acheulean culture of the Lower Paleolithic era, and must therefore date from at least 290,000 BCE.

However, once more advanced dating methods become available, it is conceivable that these petroglyphs will turn out to be much older - perhaps originating as early as 700,000 BCE - although at present this is mere speculation. Even so, the Bhimbetka cupules are four times older than the Blombos Cave art, which is the next oldest site of Stone Age art.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

All idol worshippers are not indian hindus by race in past idol worshippers either killed by wrath and punishment of ALLAH ALMIGHTY due to natural clamities like earthquake, flood and storms and some moved back towards right path and followed instruction of Prophets（P.B.U.H）and only in india idol worshippers continued and they will also end in final battle near return of Hazrat Esa A.S

Earthquake happened here too , two biggest, one in quetta decades ago & one in Kashmir 2005. Also we can't forget flood in 2010 which effected more than half Pakistan area in size. One of the worst flood we suffered in history. It happened in Muslim country.

 

[El Sidd]

However

and i am telling you that carbon dating does not work on inorganic materials.

however, i can testify that both Chinese and Indian 'folklore' suggest that humans have had a continued presence in those geographical areas for 200000 years.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

I'm just trying to grasp whats going on here..

Are you trying to promote old Hindu-Indian civilisation by linking the quoted texts to science fact and thereby concluding that Hindus are in some way enlightened people who have in the past, although not as much now, had great wisdom and access to knowledge. Then you are saying that you are using these notions to bring a new and refreshing understanding to what it means to have a Hindu life.

It does sound like a good idea on the surface, what I am concerned about is that basing the centrality of your cultural soul on questionable and somewhat disputed materials that seem to be more fictional than based on actual historical evidence could be dangerous. Its like building your house on quick sand.

Does it really matter how old Hindu civilisation is, or what these 'facts' seem to suggest. I don't think it should affect the everyday Hindu soul as they would find it irrelevant for their religious teachings.

The purpose of trying to base Hinduism in Science seems a bit out there.

 

[Shankranthi]

and i am telling you that carbon dating does not work on inorganic materials.

however, i can testify that both Chinese and Indian 'folklore' suggest that humans have had a continued presence in those geographical areas for 200000 years.

My link says that the dating was done by using micro-erosion tests and not carbon dating.

I'm just trying to grasp whats going on here..

Are you trying to promote old Hindu-Indian civilisation by linking the quoted texts to science fact and thereby concluding that Hindus are in some way enlightened people who have in the past, although not as much now, had great wisdom and access to knowledge. Then you are saying that you are using these notions to bring a new and refreshing understanding to what it means to have a Hindu life.

It does sound like a good idea on the surface, what I am concerned about is that basing the centrality of your cultural soul on questionable and somewhat disputed materials that seem to be more fictional than based on actual historical evidence could be dangerous. Its like building your house on quick sand.

Does it really matter how old Hindu civilisation is, or what these 'facts' seem to suggest. I don't think it should affect the everyday Hindu soul as they would find it irrelevant for their religious teachings.

The purpose of trying to base Hinduism in Science seems a bit out there.

I am saying that what was supposed to be "myth" or fiction has been prove to be Fact. Based on scientific inquiry.

Are you claiming t be an expert in Hinduism ? On what basis are you drawing your conclusions ?

 

[shaded]

so they left their minds back at 15000 years before ?

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

I am saying that what was supposed to be "myth" or fiction has been prove to be Fact. Based on scientific inquiry.

Are you claiming t be an expert in Hinduism ? On what basis are you drawing your conclusions ?

I'm using my brain, primarily, and trying to understand your motive and reasoning for attempting such audacious endeavours.

 

[El Sidd]

My link says that the dating was done by using micro-erosion tests and not carbon dating.

this method is not widely accepted by the academics nor the science peoplessss

 

[farhan_9909]

Hindu?

Hinduism is a merged form of many south Asian religions including the religion of the people of IVC/ancestors of the modern Pakistanis.

The people of IVC followed monotheistic religion and buried the dead according to various sources