Scientific evidence that Hindu civilization is more than 15,000 years old

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lol..... how are these from the "same source" ? they are from different sources, written by his peers and other scholars of the ages.
His best peer review comes from Newton who plagiarized his work under the cover of colonialism

Just what I thought. Adios!

 

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Britain wasn't even a colonial power in his lifetime

No, but his remarkable "discoveries' certainly coincided with the arrival of Jesuits in India and shipping and translating a whole lot of Hindu texts in their order in Europe.

Suddenly Europe was 'enlightened" and started "inventing" everything from calculus to understanding physics to chemistry.

Its funny how before invading India, they had made ZERO original inventions or discoveries. And then suddenly they turned into geniuses.

 

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Judge your yourself what is a positron,

Can't from the wall of text you have posted. And you have completely missed my point. My question isn't from a scientific point of view but a from a linguistic one.

Again what are the Sansikirit words for a positron, mobile app, virtual machine and a microprocessor?

 

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Can't from the wall of text you have posted. And you have completely missed my point. My question isn't from a scientific point of view but a from a linguistic prespective.

Again what are the Sansikirit words for a positron, mobile app, virtual machine and a microprocessor?

lol..... why would there be a sanskrit word for a microprocessor in the past ?

I am discussing history, or were you not aware ?

 

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his remarkable "discoveries' certainly coincided with the arrival of Jesuits in India and shipping and translating a whole lot of Hindu texts in their order in Europe.

Their European arrival in India was largely because of their interest in spices not for knowledge

The Renaissance was triggered by the fact they translated large portions of Arabic scientific texts which had the preseved and built upon the knowledge of Greeks, Romans and India.

 

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Their European arrival in India was largely because of their interest in spices not for knowledge

The Renaissance was triggered by the fact they translated large portions of Arabic scientific texts which had the preseved and built upon the knowledge of Greeks, Romans and India.

How does it matter "why" they arrived ?
They landed in US thinking its India. Made no difference to the Natives there, did it ?

lol at "arabic scientific texts". All of which were translations of Indian texts and they even gave credit unlike the Europeans.

 

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lol..... why would there be a sanskrit world for a microprocessor in the past ?

Exactly. So if Sansikirit becomes the national language of India in modern times you will definitely need to come up with a word for it. It will either be the English word or a rough translation of it. My point was to show how languages change and evolve over time. No language is immune to it not even Sansikirit. BTW isn't Sansikirit a largely dead language like Latin? Will it be even practical to adopt it?

They landed in US thinking its India. Made no difference to the Natives there, did it ?

And why were they seeking India in the first place? For knowledge?

 

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Exactly. So if Sansikirit becomes the national language of India in modern times you will definitely need to come up with a word for it. It will either be the English word or a rough translation of it. My point was to show how languages change and evolve over time. No language is immune to it not even Sansikirit. BTW isn't Sansikirit a largely dead language like Latin? Will it be even practical to adopt it?

lol. Create a new word is not the same as changing the language. The new word will still have sanskrit root words and origin. Like the new word "Parmanu shakti" for Nuclear energy which is made from splitting atoms.

It comes from the Vaisesika school, the trasareṇu (dust particles visible in the sunbeam coming through a small window hole) are the smallest mahat (perceivable) particles and defined as tryaṇukas (triads). These are made of three parts, each of which are defined as dvyaṇuka (dyad). The dvyaṇukas are conceived as made of two parts, each of which are defined as paramaṇu (atom). The paramaṇu's (atoms) are indivisible and eternal, they can neither be created nor destroyed.


Sanskrit cannot evolve, it can only devolve and it has already devolved into a multitude of Indian languages and ancient languages like Parkrit and Avestan.

And why were they seeking India in the first place? For knowledge?

Yes, for medicinal plants among other things. This were mislabeled as "spices".

 

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Sanskrit cannot evolve, it can only devolve an

Maybe that's the reason why Sansikirit died

paramaṇu (atom).

So what's the word for an atom? Paramanu? Or just Anu?

 

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Maybe that's the reason why Sansikirit died

So what's the word for an atom? Paramanu? Or just Anu?

1. No, that is the reason Sanskrit remains permanent. Its the peak of language evolution.


2. Bhagavata Purana describes atom made up of Param-anu and each Anu (Atom) consisting of at least two Paramanu.

caramaH sad-visheShANAm aneko .asaMyutaH sadA |
paramANuH sa viGYeyo nRiNAm aikya bhramo yataH || 3.11.1

The material manifestation’s ultimate particle, which is indivisible and not formed into a body, is called the atom. It exists always as an invisible identity, even after the dissolution of all forms. The material body is but a combination of such atoms, but it is misunderstood by the common man.

sata eva padArthasya svarUpAvasthitasya yat |
kaivalyaM parama-mahAn avisheSho nirantaraH | |3.11.2

Atoms are the ultimate state of the manifest universe. When they stay in their own forms without forming different bodies, they are called the unlimited oneness. There are certainly different bodies in physical forms, but the atoms themselves form the complete manifestation.

The Parama-Mahan is still more subtler than Paramanu.
The Parama Mahan is unique, has no difference, no spacing and leaves behind nothing.

evaM kAlo .apy anumitaH saukShmye sthaulye ca sattama |
saMsthAna-bhuktyA bhagavAn avyakto vyakta-bhug vibhuH || 3.11.3

In the same way time also has its discrete divisions, which comprise its gross form and this can be measured by the movement and combination of particles; viShNu is that which is unmanifest, existing in movement and in potential.

sa kAlaH paramANur vai yo bhu~nkte paramANutAm |
sato .avisheSha-bhug yas tu sa kAlaH paramo mahAn || 3.11.4

Those discrete units of time, which are verily further indivisible, correspond to the time required by a paramANu to cover the space equivalent to a paramANu; this is verily the primal, supreme time.

aNur dvau paramANU syAt trasareNus trayaH smRtaH |
jAlArka-rashmy-avagataH kham evAnupatan agAt || 3.11.5

Two paramANus are combine to form an aNu, and 3 combine to form a trasareNu; the rays of light emerging from a mesh can make these [trasareNus] move up in empty space.

Bhagavata states that the Paramanus never join each other, only by coming close together they produce an illusion of a solid matter, which has specific properties.

Its is now proved by the science that the subatomic particles are not really joined to each other, they are far away from each other. Proton of an atom is at a distance of 40,000 [forty thousand] times the diameter of it from its Electron.

Bhagavata Purana has correlated the matter with the time, just like the space-time continuum of the modern science.

Time is unmanifested (Avyakta), but it enjoys the manifest world (Vyaktabhuk). It comes into existence in a special way, so it is called as ‘ Vibhu’. The finest unit of time is named as Paramanu, which equals to a millionth of a second. To be precise, a Paramanu of time is 0.000032 seconds, according to the Bhagavata.

The theory of the Paramanus proposed by the Bhagavata is now accepted by the modern science, but the ‘Parama Mahan’ is not yet accepted by the science. A Paramanu keeps behind some ‘thing’, if broken ; but the Parama Mahan will not keep any ‘thing’ behind, except itself. That Unique thing is called as ‘Kaivalya’ (nirvana/salvation/moksha), which is the unique, ultimate Reality.

 

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No, that is the reason Sanskrit remains permanent. Its the peak of language evolutio

Then why did fall into disuse? There are more Punjabi speakers than Sansikirit speakers in the world

Does the popcorn have butter?

 

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Then why did fall into disuse? There are more Punjabi speakers than Sansikirit speakers in the world

Does the popcorn have butter?

1. Because all the schools and universities teaching it were destroyed by the Islamic invasion of a 1000 years. Millions of texts and books were destroyed. The teachers killed and the state sponsrship for such schools were withdrawn. The land that belonged to these temple / schools were confiscated.

2. Sanskrit is also very strict about rules and correct usage. It takes a lot of training to read and write correctly.

Unlike english which has only 26 alphabets and is much easier to learn.

I know you respect BOLLYWOOD Awards more.
Given how BOLLYWOOD version of SURGICAL STRIKE is being taken SERIOUSLY.
Next BOLLYWOOD BIG HIT at the cinema.
1 Mig21 shot down ALL F-16 and ALL JF-17.
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I think you deserve a Kenneth O May award too

 

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teaching it were destroyed by the Islamic invasion of a 1000 years. Millions of texts and books were destroyed. The teachers killed and the state sponsrship for such schools were withdrawn. The land that belonged to these temple / schools were confiscated.

That claim is as bogus as it gets. Sansikirit has been absent from South India, Indo China, Indonesia, China, Malay and other areas with significant Indian influence. And you can't blame it on Islam. Sansikirit was an elitist language and died because of it

 

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That claim is as bogus as it gets. Sansikirit has been absent from South India, Indo China, Indonesia, China, Malay and other areas with significant Indian influence. And you can't blame it on Islam. Sansikirit was an elitist language and died because of it

Sanskrit was no elitist, it was a difficult language to master. Those who mastered it was highly respected.

Sanskrit exist today in its various devolved forms. Almost all Indian languages are devolved from sanskrit. Including punjabi. Almost all punjabi words will have sanskrit roots.

Sanskrit continues to be alive and kicking, not only in India, but also in the US and Germany. The destruction of schools and temples are real.

That is why most of the sanskrit scholars in India are south Indians. And the rest from specific regions in the north like Varanasi , Dwaraka, etc.

Sanskrit used to be taught in all the schools in kerala right till 1947 and slightly beyond. After than the communist stopped the teaching of sanskrit in schools and replaced it with local language and english.

But that is about free India, in the past it was the islamic invasion that destroyed the sanskrit eco system. Or did you think the invasion was harmless to Hinduism ? There are zero Hindu temples standing intact in the entire North India. Same with pakistan. How do you think that happened ?

Most schools were attached to temples, the veda shalas.

 

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? There are zero Hindu temples standing intact in the entire North India. Same with pakistan. How do you think that happened ?

Entirely wrong. Google Hindu temples in Pakistan.