Saudi women gear up for new freedom as driving ban ends

[Saif al-Arab]

Dude, one way you protest about being insulted for low intelligence and the other way you talk utter nonsense...look at what has become of Pakistan...a free fund land for everyone to stick their oar..this is what Pakistani level of Intelligence has given us...a land..unfit for human in-habitation..look in your own collar first..!



KSA does not have abundance in resources necessary for human survival..such as fertile land, fresh water, moderate climate etc.. Therefore it should not follow a policy like Pakistan and create a population boost of backward , illiterate and unskilled workforce.. building a highly productive population will boost KSA revenues which are necessary for its import dependency and will provide high standards of living for its citizens.

Look at what has become of Pakistan, years of religious indoctrination and population boost on the propaganda of "Allah will provide" has bought the country to disaster and destroyed it natural resources..the country is over strained and under nourished despite being a fertile land with massive agriculture production.

Fertile land is plenty actually (km2 wise) but not properly used as 80% + of the population is urbanized and live in a few major cities. Still you have huge agricultural areas in Southern KSA, Hijaz, Eastern Province and even areas of Najd.

Climate, outside of June, July and August, is great and a climate that I prefer over any other. Abundance of sunshine, little humidity (overall) and not too high or low temperatures.

Of course KSA is no Sri Lanka but it does not need to be!

Most of KSA's population (70%) is below 30 and most of it are well-educated. Also I think that you are overreacting about the situation in Pakistan. It can't be that bad.

But of course I understand your points. A 100 million big population would not be a good thing on any front nor continuous wastefulness of resources which is a problem in KSA although this is improving and I expect MbS and the ongoing reforms to have a needed effect.

BTW the Chinese have arid lands that are 2 times larger than KSA (!) but they are slowly turning that arid land into somewhat fertile land. Technology in the future will improve and similar can happen in KSA. Not to say climatic changes. Not many millennia ago, KSA/Arabia was very fertile land hence being home to some of the oldest civilizations in the world as well as pre-historic ones.

Lol, did you just imply many/most third world men to be heavily into public rape and harassment?

I don't care about this whole driving thing but you need to watch what you type.

Some Saudi men make sexual advances unto their female *third world* house maids, there was a even a wife who secretly recorded her husband harassing the maid. Some Saudis beat and torture their *third world* servants. Some Saudis make fun of the poverty of their *third world* servants. In the past some *third world* countries even banned from their banned their women from going to gulf because there were plenty of cases of those women being abused and exploited.

So stop talking about third world countries like dirt because your country isn't exactly all love and kisses either.

I am not implying anything but writing what I wrote in plain sight.

The fact is that many murder and rape cases related to Saudi Arabian women (not only) are committed by illegal migrants (from across the world) and expats. In terms of percentage they are overrepresented. Same story with the prison population. That is why certain expat and illegal migrant communities have a bad reputation in KSA and the GCC. It's something that every local will tell you. It does not come out of the blue.

Does that mean that every illegal migrant and expat is a murderer or rapist? Of course not.

Yes, some Saudi Arabians are criminals as well. You have criminals in every society. Luckily crime rates are rather low in KSA. One of the lowest in the Muslim world and world as whole.

Look, there are currently some 8-9 million expats in KSA, 30-40 millions have visited in KSA in the past 40 years. Maybe 1000 or 2000 have experienced what you are saying. Let's say 10.000 to make you happy. That's nothing.

BTW, I would never leave my sisters, my mother or any female relative alone in a car with some expat driver from a third world country (say India, where rape seems like a part-time job) that has had no female relations for months or years.

However I would have no problem with female drivers from those countries on the other hand.

This has nothing to do with race but socioeconomic conditions. I can say the same about certain Arab communities in KSA.

Foreign drivers in KSA (a dead community after this law) are not exactly the best educated lot from their respective countries either. How many doctors or engineers from abroad end up as drivers in KSA? Yes, you guessed it right. None.

You know what, what I wrote is the same thing in the UK. Look at all the statistics. Crime in Pakistan (I imagine) is not something very common among the educated population or those with a middle income and above. Corruption is a bigger problem. Crimes of such nature are mostly done due to socioeconomic conditions or some deviant psychological/sexual behaviors.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Although Bandar bin Sultan was undoubtedly a clever man, he had his bad sides as well. Yet to see them (at least in public) from his daughter, Princess Reema.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1011322306533253120

Great points and a very articulate women that has done a lot of good in KSA lately. Big respect.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Lol, did you just imply many/most third world men to be heavily into public rape and harassment?

I don't care about this whole driving thing but you need to watch what you type.

Some Saudi men make sexual advances unto their female *third world* house maids, there was a even a wife who secretly recorded her husband harassing the maid. Some Saudis beat and torture their *third world* servants. Some Saudis make fun of the poverty of their *third world* servants. In the past some *third world* countries even banned from their banned their women from going to gulf because there were plenty of cases of those women being abused and exploited.

So stop talking about third world countries like dirt because your country isn't exactly all love and kisses either.

Don’t worry about these Arab racists and their ilk. They will go to whatever length to backstab any and all Muslims. They can’t even tolerate other Arabs of different countries, tribes, cities, villages, or even down the street.

Yet they love Non-Muslims. Europeans, American, Israeli, Australian, Russian sirs and madams. They pray toward Washington and Tel Aviv. Slaves of Christians and Jews.

I must have really irked them because they keep trying to personally attack me. Good stuff.

Alhamdulilah. This Pakistani is enough for them.

 

[padamchen]

Having millions of cheap house drivers from India , Pakistan, Nepal is no good thing for a country..

1. More women in the work force, means less available local pool of workers and less foreign workers. Saudi business have always complained of high wages demanded by Saudis and available jobs being low paid, women will easily opt to work for less paid jobs..
2. Less house drivers at homes....
3. Less women sitting idle at home means less family quarrels with inlaws, less baby booming..which is bad for resource strained country like KSA.
4. More disposeable income to invest in assets building.
5. Kids under 24/7 mommy supervision then to grow up weak and timid...women sitting at home is bad for future generations..

Someone named Pan-Islamic-Pakistan is not worth spending time on and has not come out of the failed generation of 1970's when a defeated state broken in two propelled a new state identity by promoting Pan Islamist empire...it bought itself into sphere of influence of scum like Ghaddafi, Saddam and Hafiz Al Assad..and paid dearly by terrorist activities sponsored by these three stooges..but many Pakistanis still live in delusions..



The Persians set a history of cruelty and savagery when they occupied Sindh..



This exactly is an inferiority complex..deriving pride from something so distant in past that it cannot be proved..and you are not alone as such delusion affect the entire population in Pakistan...Syeedis, Abassis, Qureshis, they all have some very distant history to feel pride..

A pan-islamist with pride for his lineage shouldn't be sitting in USA to begin with..thats not your natural home..your should either be in Pakistan or Arabia!

Lol ok man. I'll give you all of those.

All I said is women suck as drivers.

They have zero spatial perception.

They freeze.

They have no understanding of traffic flow and where to place themselves.

It's uncanny how like clockwork I will be tailing a car and tell it's a female driver.

Cheers, Doc

 

[asena_great]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1010701711692795905

the source: https://www.trtworld.com/mea/saudi-women-gear-up-for-new-freedom-as-driving-ban-ends-18411

A tiny but absolutely promising step forward.

GZ to all Arab women

 

[I S I]

Wow this is the Future.