Saudi warship hit by a Houthi missile off the coast of Yemen

[Kuwaiti Girl]

LOL, You even came up with a new dialect, next time you will say the Saudis are attacking themselves to accuse Iran.
You can repeat the video several times and you will notice by yourself that neither it sounds like Yemeni nor he sounds like the other guy who is commenting in the same video.

That was a Yemeni accent without a shadow of a doubt. And he was speaking in a Yemeni Arabic dialect.

I now expect you to resort to canvassing by using your other sockpuppet accounts lol.

 

[beast89]

clearly the official saudi line about suicide boats is a lie

 

[The SC]

@Horus
It shows the Ship in 2 different directions!? And looks like a sitting duck or practice target, while the missile was launched from another vessel very close by as the movements of the camera(s) show..

Also if Houthi have this level of weaponary, they cannot be considered Civilians

They have a big part of the old Yemeni regular armed forces with them, so they are well armed and there is almost a million of them..this is a complicated and tough war.

 

[BHarwana]

This was neither a missile and nor a suicide boat but a hybrid of both.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/10/26/irans-navy-unveils-suicide-drone/92761598/

 

[Penguin]

Exactly. That's the reason Russians went after developing anti naval missiles instead of building fleet of aircraft carriers.

Oh, so that's why we saw a development in the Soviet navy from 2 Moskva class helicopter carriers to 4 Kiev class VSTOL carriers, to 2 Kuznetsov class STOBAR carriers and the Ulyanovsk class CTOL carrier..... in spite of loads of missiles developed.

This was neither a missile and nor a suicide boat but a hybrid of both.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/10/26/irans-navy-unveils-suicide-drone/92761598/

Says who? Does the footage show it?

As for the USA Today description of a suicide drone, JANES' says the following:

Iran unveils unmanned ground effect vehicle
Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) appears to be developing the world's first unmanned ground effect vehicle (UGEV), which could be used as the basis for a long-range munition.

The existence of a UGEV was revealed by a report published by the Tasnim news agency on 26 October, but removed from its website a few hours later.

The report described it as a "combat-reconnaissance drone" that had been developed by the IRGC's naval wing and can carry military night vision systems that work in high humidity environments.

The drone has a range of 1,000 km, can fly as low as 50 cm above the sea, can reach a maximum altitude of 3,000 ft, and has a maximum speed of 200 km/h, the Tasnim report said. "Although the drone cannot carry missiles, it is able to carry explosives and hit sea or ground targets," it added.

The report was accompanied by photographs showing a UGEV powered by two small piston engines with forward-facing propellers.

GEVs exploit the aerodynamic interaction between their wings and the surface- typically the sea - to fly lower and more efficiently than conventional aircraft, while achieving far higher speeds than boats. Some types can also operate outside ground effect like conventional aircraft.

Iran already has experience in developing GEVs, having unveiled the Bavar-2, which comes in single- and two-seat variants, in 2010. A larger two-engine GEV has been seen in satellite imagery of the Iran Shipbuilding and Offshore Industries Complex (ISOIC) shipyard near Bostanu on 6 October 2014.

http://www.janes.com/article/64968/iran-unveils-unmanned-ground-effect-vehicle
http://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/27524

There is no guidance package as you might find in an antiship missile so it would have to be piloted in by hand remotely. 200km/h is fairly slow, it sould be visible in the footage if it was used.

 

[BHarwana]

Says who? Does the footage show it?

footage never showed an anti ship missile nor a suicide boat. I don't want to get in a prolonged discussion but it was a drone not a missile. the Suicide drone that hited the ship was developed by Russia not Iran.

 

[Arminkh]

Oh, so that's why we saw a development in the Soviet navy from 2 Moskva class helicopter carriers to 4 Kiev class VSTOL carriers, to 2 Kuznetsov class STOBAR carriers and the Ulyanovsk class CTOL carrier..... in spite of loads of missiles developed.

Compared to those of US, it is a much skinnier program. They never thought spending that much money on carriers is a wise thing.

 

[Penguin]

footage never showed an anti ship missile nor a suicide boat. I don't want to get in a prolonged discussion but it was a drone not a missile. the Suicide drone that hited the ship was developed by Russia not Iran.

Again, how do you know it was a drone? And because it was a Russian developed drone, you posted a link to an article where the "irans-navy-unveils-suicide-drone"....? Even RT reports it (https://www.rt.com/news/364258-iran-amphibious-suicide-drone/ ) And even if Russian developed, it doesn't rule out Iranian use.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/r...g-suicide-drones-to-fight-off-assads-enemies/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-superpowers-Saegheh-World-War-Russia-nuclear

Compared to those of US, it is a much skinnier program. They never thought spending that much money on carriers is a wise thing.

But happened nonetheless. If it wasn't wise, why waste money developing and actually starting to build nuclear powered Ulyanovsk class (i.e. at least 2 ships) ?

 

[BHarwana]

Again, how do you know it was a drone? And because it was a Russian developed drone, you posted a link to an article where the "irans-navy-unveils-suicide-drone"....? Even RT reports it (https://www.rt.com/news/364258-iran-amphibious-suicide-drone/ ) And even if Russian developed, it doesn't rule out Iranian use.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/r...g-suicide-drones-to-fight-off-assads-enemies/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-superpowers-Saegheh-World-War-Russia-nuclear

Sorry my mistake, It was a missile agreed just saw another video of an attack.

 

[eagle2007]

ALCON,

Some comments on this development:

- This Saudi frigate is NOT US-designed built, it's French. It's an export frigate design from the 1980s. The only US-built vessels in the Royal Saudi Navy are a handful of missile corvettes and missile boats.
- The Al Madinah class have a somewhat, "old school" method of defense against AshMs. Ideally, their Sea Crotales would be the outer-ring of defense with the two twin 40mm cannons being a last resort (as they were designed before the proliferation of sea-skimming AshMs).
- So, for me, it getting hit by a C-801/802 is not that surprising, as it's defenses were never truly up to the task (though I'm sure the French told them it was back in the 80s).
- The debate over whether this was a C-801 (purchased by the Yemeni Navy from China many years ago) or an Iranian-supplied C-802/Noor is, for the moment, academic. Why? Because it is impossible from the current footage to tell which missile was used. This is because both the C-801 and C-802 use the exact same warhead design. Both carry a 165kg semi-armor piercing warhead. So unless we get images/footage of the launch of the missile, we'll never know for sure.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

The difference between ISIS and Houtihis (aka ''civillians of Yemen'') is crystal clear now.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

An anti ship missile never hits the target at the stern.
It homes onto the main top section of the ship during its terminal phase, as it is the area which provides the biggest RCA.

Could be a mine or a rocket.

 

[Penguin]

An anti ship missile never hits the target at the stern.
It homes onto the main top section of the ship during its terminal phase, as it is the area which provides the biggest RCA.

Could be a mine or a rocket.

No? Never a stern hit? I think you need to watch these

(two diffrent russian missile hitting target at or near stern)

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

No? Never a stern hit? I think you need to watch these

(two diffrent russian missile hitting target at or near stern)

I shared my experience based info.
Depends on the aspect the missile approaches from also.

 

[Penguin]

- The Al Madinah class have a somewhat, "old school" method of defense against AshMs. Ideally, their Sea Crotales would be the outer-ring of defense with the two twin 40mm cannons being a last resort (as they were designed before the proliferation of sea-skimming AshMs).

The Al Madina class uses OTOBreda 40mm Compact with twin 40 mm/L70 guns

Current producer webpage: http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/twin-40l70-compact
Tech specs: http://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/63265270/67175613/body_twin_40L70_rev_02_2013_1.pdf

The Twin 40L70 Compact provides effectiveness and reliability especially under the most challenging operations, such as:
- anti-missile defence (subsonic sea-skimmers);
- anti-aircraft defence;
- ship-to-ship engagements.
The Twin 40L70 Compact is in service with more than 20 Navies

Breda 40 mm Compact
This weapon uses two OTOBreda 40 mm/L70 guns and is used on many types of warship from fast patrol boats to frigates. In service in Italian, Argentine, South Korean and other navies. Tests conducted by the Italian Navy in 1976 indicated this weapon had 30% chance of destroying an incoming sub-sonic missile outside of 900 meters (1,000 yards).

Breda Twin Fast Forty
The "Compact" twin mount has been superseded by the newer "Fast Forty" which is available in both single and twin mountings. Breda claims that a twin Fast Forty, firing 900 rounds per minute, can kill an incoming supersonic missile flying in a straight line at ranges as great as 3,280 yards (3,000 m). The mount automatically switches from the lighter
PFHE round to the heavier APFSDS when the missile reaches a range of 1,100 yards (1,000 m).

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_4cm-70_Breda.php

http://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/Oto-Melara-40L70-DARDO.htm