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Saudi Arabia Might Recognize Israel Because Of NEOM

Note: As a new Eurasian Multi-polar Order is emerging...great shifts are taking place in Asia, ME and Africa.

With CPEC being the Flagship of OBOR/BRI and Pak's central role in this, along with being a stakeholder in SCO and broader Eurasian dynamics....

What effects the above heading might have on Pak's strategic and economic interests?

Pak has been reluctant to recognise Israel because of historic relations with ME states.

However, if these states recognise Israel what are Pak's options?
Would it be in Pak's Strategic Intrests to recognise Israel? If not... why not?

Pak being a South West Asian Regional (Nuclear) Power can't take a passive role.
Or can it?

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Authored by Andrew Korybko via Oriental Review,

The half-a-trillion-dollar initiative to build a tristate city at the Saudi, Egyptian, and Jordanian border in the Gulf of Aqaba will more than likely lead to Riyadh recognizing Israel and integrating Tel Aviv into the project.



The ambitious Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman unveiled a $500 billion project at an investment forum earlier this week in an effort to bring some serious substance to his Vision 2030 project of fundamentally diversifying his country’s oil-dependent economy in the coming decade. The proposal calls for a gigantic city called NEOM to be built at the entrance to the Gulf of Aqaba in the northeastern corner of the Red Sea, with the plan being for it to eventually extend into neighboring Egypt and Jordan as well. The Crown Prince promised that it would be a technologically advanced city with its own laws and administration, and it will also be free from anything “traditional”.

The latter remark hints that Mohammed Bin Salman won’t allow the Kingdom’s traditional Wahhabi socio-cultural “regulations” to be enforced there, which goes along with his other headline-grabbing statement during the event when he said that Saudi Arabia will “return…to moderate Islam” and “swiftly deal a blow to extremist ideologies”. Quite clearly, as analyzed in the author’s earlier piece this month about Saudi Arabia’s shifting grand strategy, a “deep state” conflict is indeed being fought in the country between its monarchic and clerical factions, with the former poised to carry out a “soft coup” against the latter as it seeks to “modernize” the country. This will surely result in some behind-the-scenes tumult in the coming future, if not overt destabilization, but the point of the present article isn’t to dwell too much on that tangent.

Instead, it’s relevant to have brought that up in order to make the case that Saudi Arabia is on the cusp of an unprecedented paradigm change that will likely see it recognizing Israel if the monarchy is successful in snuffing out the clerics’ political influence. Saudi Arabia’s Egyptian and Jordanian NEOM partners have already recognized and signed peace treaties with Israel, and Riyadh is known to be coordinating with Tel Aviv in crafting a comprehensive anti-Iranian regional policy, amongst other strategic commonalities that they share. Moreover, the secret meetings between Saudi Arabia and Israel over the years suggest that their relationship is much warmer in private than either side publicly presents it as for their own respective domestic political reasons.

Israel has always wanted relations with Saudi Arabia, though Riyadh has traditionally shirked away from this because it wanted to present itself as a strong supporter of the Palestinian cause, made all the more symbolic by the Saudi monarchy’s custodianship over the Two Holy Mosques given the religious dimensions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. However, if Mohammed Bin Salman comes out on top in his “deep state” “soft coup” against the Wahhabi clerics, then he can easily lay the “blame” on them for his country’s refusal to recognize Israel after all of these decades. Not only could he be interested in doing this as the ultimate expression of his country’s radically transformed identity under his stewardship, but he might be just as importantly driven by the geostrategic imperatives related to Vision 2030’s flagship NEOM project.



The Gulf of Aqaba was chosen not just because it would allow NEOM to spread into Egypt and Jordan, but also because of its proximity to Israel, which is promoting its “Red-Med” railway proposal as the perfect Mideast complementary component of the New Silk Road. Tel Aviv keenly knows that the Chinese are always looking for backup plans and transport route diversification in order to not be too dependent on any single connectivity corridor, and in this case, overland rail transit from the Gulf of Aqaba to the Eastern Mediterranean via Israel comes off as exceedingly attractive to Beijing’s strategists. Furthermore, China has fantastic relations with both Saudi Arabia and Israel, so from Beijing’s perspective, this is the perfect Mideast “win-win”, especially if the People’s Republic can find a way to insinuate that its possible financing of both the NEOM and “Red-Med” projects contributed to bringing peace to the Mideast.

In addition, there’s also the Russian factor to take into consideration, and it’s objectively known – though commonly denied in the Alt-Media Community – that Moscow and Tel Aviv are on excellent terms with one another and basically cooperate as allies in Syria. When accounting for the fast-moving Russian-Saudi rapprochement and Moscow’s envisioned 21st-century grand strategic role in becoming the supreme balancing force in Eurasia, it’s likely that Russia would be in favor of any Saudi recognition of Israel and Tel Aviv’s integration into the NEOM project because it would then allow the Russian business elite both in the Russian Federation and Israel to invest in this exciting city-state and the complementary “Red-Med” Silk Road corridor.

Seeing as how Mohammed Bin Salman is trying to purge the clerics’ political influence from the Kingdom, it’s very possible that Saudi Arabia will end up recognizing Israel in the near future and blaming its decades-long delay in doing so on the Wahhabis. The grand intent behind this isn’t just to formalize the Saudi-Israeli anti-Iranian partnership or to show the world just how serious the Crown Prince is in changing the course of his country, but to please Riyadh’s newfound Multipolar Great Power partners in Moscow and Beijing, both of which enjoy exceptional relations with Tel Aviv but would probably be reluctant to invest in the Kingdom’s NEOM city-state project so long as its connectivity access remained dependent on the Suez Canal chokepoint.

Russia and China would feel more strategically secure if Israel was incorporated into this megaproject so that its territory could be used for overland transshipment between the Red and Mediterranean Seas via the “Red-Med” railway proposal, which would then make NEOM infinitely more attractive from a logistics perspective for all sorts of investors.



If Saudi Arabia doesn’t recognize Israel, then this non-Suez workaround is impossible and the NEOM city-state loses its grand strategic significance in the context of the Multipolar World Order, which could consequently lead to a lack of investment and therefore the potential failure of Vision 2030’s flagship project. As such, due to the economic-strategic imperatives associated with NEOM, as well as the geopolitical paradigm shift staking place in Saudi Arabia, Riyadh will probably recognize Israel in the coming future in order to guarantee that its city-state initiative succeeds and ultimately transitions the Kingdom away from its oil-exporting dependency.
 
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Hmm it may be premature to say. Though I have a personal hunch that KSA may eventually recognise Israel but NEOM didn't cross my mind as being one of the motivations. Why do you think NEOM will be the reason?
 
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Neom is a Saudi project, totally contained within Saudi Arabia..It is near Egypt and Jordan, both will benefit from it, they are not involved in the project.. this article is based on ignorance of facts and some wishful thinking..Usrael has to recognize A Palestinian state first if it wants to be recognized by the rest of the Arabs..
 
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Pakistan should recognize Israel , despite what ME or Saudi's think ..
 
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Saudi won't recognize it. They will just stand by, and watch, just like every country in the world, as Palestinian is slowly wiped off the face of the earth.
 
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Hi,

That is the ultimate 'tactic' against israel---make peace with it---.
Peace is there.. the Arabs are not hostile, but to recognise it as a state it takes a counter part, which is the recognition of a Palestinian state according to UN resolutions.. it is not very complicated.. if there is any opposition to this Idea that will bring lasting peace to the Middle east, it is one sided and comes from Usrael..
 
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Pakistan should recognize Israel , despite what ME or Saudi's think ..

Why? Superficial things are so dear to you?

Israel and Pakistan do not have to recognise each other for them to exist peacefully.

We do not share any border nor conflicting agendas in the middle east. The middle east itself is heading for a two state solution.
 
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Why? Superficial things are so dear to you?

Israel and Pakistan do not have to recognise each other for them to exist peacefully.

We do not share any border nor conflicting agendas in the middle east. The middle east itself is heading for a two state solution.

Israel is here to stay, does Pakistan not recognizing Israel give a Flying F to anyone ? NO ..
we stay away from Israel and we destroy our image on a international level , Of course there are threats from Israel but i dare say today Pakistan has much more to fear from US than Israel ..

Pakistan is changing but still a large part is one way of another values extremism .. we have to change that, or else we will be left alone in this world , Arabs are hypocrites they have relations with Israel and do back door Diplomacy while fund the madarsas and Mullahs in Pakistan to Violently oppose any effort to create any ties with the Jewish state ..
 
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Israel is here to stay, does Pakistan not recognizing Israel give a Flying F to anyone ? NO ..
we stay away from Israel and we destroy our image on a international level , Of course there are threats from Israel but i dare say today Pakistan has much more to fear from US than Israel ..

Pakistan is changing but still a large part is one way of another values extremism .. we have to change that, or else we will be left alone in this world , Arabs are hypocrites they have relations with Israel and do back door Diplomacy while fund the madarsas and Mullahs in Pakistan to Violently oppose any effort to create any ties with the Jewish state ..

Why do you call Israel a Jewish state and shy away from calling Pakistan an Islamic state?

Esa kiya songhadiya hai apko
 
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Why do you call Israel a Jewish state and shy away from calling Pakistan an Islamic state?

Esa kiya songhadiya hai apko

there is no Shyness in Calling Pakistan a Islamic state, but even if Pakistan is a Islamic state than why are we not having Diplomatic ties with Israel ? as far as i study Jews and Christians enjoyed their lives under the Prophet Muhammad Pbuh, so are we Pakistanis more Islamic than the Prophet ?
 
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there is no Shyness in Calling Pakistan a Islamic state, but even if Pakistan is a Islamic state than why are we not having Diplomatic ties with Israel ? as far as i study Jews and Christians enjoyed their lives under the Prophet Muhammad Pbuh, so are we Pakistanis more Islamic than the Prophet ?

We have other issues at hand than a country 4000kms away.

Our diplomatic efforts are needed first in the 2000km radius.

This is a pointless debate
 
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it would be a huge blunder if Saudi Arabia does so :astagh: but i really dont think that Saudi Arabia would recognize Israel without solving Palestine Issue
Last people the Saudi rulers care about is the Palestinians
 
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