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* Saudi budget needs lower oil price than Iran, Russia

* Riyadh angered by Russian support for Syria's Assad

* Saudi oil exports up in June, may ease in July, August

By Richard Mably

LONDON, June 25 (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia is showing no sign of changing its policy of high oil output to support global economic growth, despite a fall in crude prices below $90 a barrel for the first time in 18 months.

Gulf and Western government sources in contact with Saudi officials said the OPEC power can tolerate oil at $90 or below for months, price levels that hurt Iran and Russia as they face off against Riyadh over the conflict in Syria.

Saudi Arabia has a built up a revenue surplus in the first half of the year and requires a much lower oil price to balance its budget than most of its fellow OPEC members and leading non-OPEC producer Russia.

"If we keep producing at roughly the same rate, we're not flooding the market," said a senior oil official from a Gulf producer. "And we want to act responsibly for the sake of the world economy."

Strong supporters of fellow Sunni Syrian rebels seeking to oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Saudi leaders have criticised Russia for defending him.

With Iran, Russia is Syria's main ally, providing most of its arms. Both Moscow and Tehran need crude at $115 a barrel to meet budget requirements.

"Russia's economy is vulnerable to a sharp drop in oil prices," said U.S. oil analyst Phil Verleger. "The Saudis may be able to exploit that vulnerability by keeping production at 10 million barrels per day."


Industry sources say Saudi Arabia, the only oil producer with significant spare capacity, looks set to trim output over the next two months, but only because demand from refineries in China and the United States will dip.

"We're told the Saudis are OK with lower prices, $90 or below, for a few months," said a Western diplomat. "Even if they have to trim back because of lower demand they don't give us the impression they'll be bailing out OPEC on price any time soon," he said.

Crude is down from a March peak of $128 partly because the economic outlook has darkened but also because Saudi Arabia, pressed by major consumer countries, opened the taps in March to a 30-year high of 10 million bpd.

That has made up for a slump in output from Iran because of sanctions, not only drawing criticism from Tehran but others in the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries who prefer higher prices including Algeria, Iraq and Venezuela.


As the group's main swing producer, Riyadh is largely responsible for the extra volumes that have taken OPEC in excess of its official 30 million bpd output ceiling.

OPEC ministers at a meeting in mid-June said they would adhere to the collective limit, implying a 1.6 million bpd cut from actual supply for 12 members of 31.5 million.

For that to happen Saudi Arabia would need to cut back sharply. The prospects of that look slim.

SAUDI QUESTIONS

Delegates who attended the OPEC meeting say Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi quizzed his counterparts in the 12-member cartel about what contribution they would be making to the cut.

"He went round one by one and there was silence -- no-one was willing to volunteer a cut," said one delegate.

Asked if Saudi Arabia would be cutting back, an OPEC delegate gave a one word answer: "No".

Unable to agree individual quota allocations under its collective limit, OPEC has no way of policing output.

"It's highly dysfunctional because most of the countries within OPEC have not been investing enough, so they have little spare capacity. Saudi Arabia is the central bank of oil, much more than it ever was, and that's the reality," said Leo Drollas at the Centre for Global Energy Studies in London.

Underscoring its intentions around what Saudi oil minister has called a "type of stimulus" for the world economy, Riyadh increased its exports in June from May by about 150,000 bpd, an industry source with knowledge of Saudi supply said.

Assuming steady Saudi domestic demand, that would push its output close to 10 million bpd again in June after a dip in May to 9.8 million.

Saudi exports will probably decline in July and August though, an industry source said, because Chinese refinery maintenance will cut its demand by about 350,000 bpd.

The closure for repairs of the new wing of the biggest U.S. refinery, at Port Arthur in Texas, removes another 200,000 bpd of demand. Again assuming steady Saudi domestic consumption, that might mean production comes down to about 9.5 million.

Saudi has banked an oil revenue surplus in the first half of the year to see it through leaner times.

"Gulf countries can put up with prices of under $90 because during the first half of the year prices were over $100 so a lot of profits have already been made over that period," said a Gulf OPEC country official.

"So don't expect the Gulf countries to instantly turn off supply just because the price goes under $90."


To date this year Saudi Arabia has earned a little over $155 billion from oil exports, according to Reuters calculations based on an export price for Saudi crude of $114 on average.

Riyadh is estimated to need about $75-$80 a barrel to balance its budget this year
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Drollas said the CGES calculated that if OPEC kept output at current levels of about 31.5 million bpd, oil prices would fall to an average $74 a barrel in the fourth quarter and $59 a barrel in the first quarter of 2013.





 
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This is what happens when religious fanatics are in charge of country. Let them destroy their own oil fields and oil industry :lol:

WikiLeaks cables: Saudi Arabia cannot pump enough oil to keep a lid on prices | Business | The Guardian

"Al-Husseini disagrees with this analysis, believing Aramco's reserves are overstated by as much as 300bn barrels. In his view once 50% of original proven reserves has been reached … a steady output in decline will ensue and no amount of effort will be able to stop it. He believes that what will result is a plateau in total output that will last approximately 15 years followed by decreasing output."

Seven months later, the US embassy in Riyadh went further in two more cables. "Our mission now questions how much the Saudis can now substantively influence the crude markets over the long term. Clearly they can drive prices up, but we question whether they any longer have the power to drive prices down for a prolonged period."

Seven months later, the US embassy in Riyadh went further in two more cables. "Our mission now questions how much the Saudis can now substantively influence the crude markets over the long term. Clearly they can drive prices up, but we question whether they any longer have the power to drive prices down for a prolonged period."

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This is what happens when religious fanatics are in charge of country. Let them destroy their own oil fields and oil industry :lol:

WikiLeaks cables: Saudi Arabia cannot pump enough oil to keep a lid on prices | Business | The Guardian



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increasing oil output means low prices and less demand in the near future thats will give saudi arabia time to take a break and give a chance to other GCC countries to play the same role. oil price dropped from $140 to 90 so russia may economically collapse anytime which will absolutely leads to bankruptcy and currency depreciation resulted from decreasing in oil prices. I can only see history repeating itself, saudis have done the same during the war on afghanistan so you better concern about your economy and take a lesson from the fall of the soviet union. now lets see if russia can cut oil output to bring prices a little bit up would their economy allows them to do so ? :lol:

another pro and I'm quoting here from the main article:

Delegates who attended the OPEC meeting say Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi quizzed his counterparts in the 12-member cartel about what contribution they would be making to the cut.

"He went round one by one and there was silence -- no-one was willing to volunteer a cut," said one delegate.

Asked if Saudi Arabia would be cutting back, an OPEC delegate gave a one word answer: "No".

Unable to agree individual quota allocations under its collective limit, OPEC has no way of policing output.

"It's highly dysfunctional because most of the countries within OPEC have not been investing enough, so they have little spare capacity. Saudi Arabia is the central bank of oil, much more than it ever was, and that's the reality," said Leo Drollas at the Centre for Global Energy Studies in London.



so I assume non of OPEC members going to either cut nor increase :lol:
 
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I wish the Gulf Arabs would think long term instead of using up their oil while the others -- including most of the West -- hoard theirs for the inevitable 'rainy day'.
 
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The stupidity of the Russian foreign policy never cease to amaze me, they are losing their allies in the Middle East one by one, and there is nothing they can do about it, ROFL.
 
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Shameful act by the Saudis. Even the article about their oil industry was written by a Westerner of all people. The same West has declared war on Islam in the last decade, killed multiple millions of Muslims and harmed and treated millions of Muslims in unspeakable ways. Yet, some forum member from Saudi Arabia is proud of serving the West.

All your positions, opinions, actions can be considered independent and valid only if you abandon the West and act on your own.
 
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increasing oil output means low prices and less demand in the near future thats will give saudi arabia time to take a break and give a chance to other GCC countries to play the same role. oil price dropped from $140 to 90 so russia may economically collapse anytime which will absolutely leads to bankruptcy and currency depreciation resulted from decreasing in oil prices. I can only see history repeating itself, saudis have done the same during the war on afghanistan so you better concern about your economy and take a lesson from the fall of the soviet union. now lets see if russia can cut oil output to bring prices a little bit up would their economy allows them to do so ? :lol:

You didnt get it. Saudis oil industry is about to collapse soon. You cannt increase anything. Current level of 10 mil bpd is your absolute maximum best you can do. You already destroyed environment and most of oil fields by overpumping. Oil output from SA will only decrease by time. And your oil economy going into not so bright future.
 
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You didnt get it. Saudis oil industry is about to collapse soon. You cannt increase anything. Current level of 10 mil bpd is your absolute maximum best you can do. You already destroyed environment and most of oil fields by overpumping. Oil output from SA will only decrease by time. And your oil economy going into not so bright future.

do you think saudi arabia is playing alone:wave: you are much far behind in understating saudi arabian strategy. who knows how many of your economy we own.

Shameful act by the Saudis. Even the article about their oil industry was written by a Westerner of all people. The same West has declared war on Islam in the last decade, killed multiple millions of Muslims and harmed and treated millions of Muslims in unspeakable ways. Yet, some forum member from Saudi Arabia is proud of serving the West.

All your positions, opinions, actions can be considered independent and valid only if you abandon the West and act on your own.

stop using the name of islam and abstain from playing over the same string over and over. the west, US, Zionists, wahabbia, petro-dollar, serving, lapdogs ,,,,etc you guys need to grow up ,, politics is politics and btw don't forget what the russian did to your brothers and sisters in afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya and now repeating the same thing in syria. get a life man...
 
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do you think saudi arabia is playing alone:wave: you are much far behind in understating saudi arabian strategy. who knows how many of your economy we own.



stop using the name of islam and abstain from playing over the same string over and over. the west, US, Zionists, wahabbia, petro-dollar, serving, lapdogs ,,,,etc you guys need to grow up ,, politics is politics and btw don't forget what the russian did to your brothers and sisters in afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya and now repeating the same thing in syria. get a life man...

What Else does Saudi Arabia has that shows special significance other than oil..
 
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