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Saudi Arabia changes Ottoman ‘Empire’ to ‘occupation’ in school textbooks

You pathetic Arabs always were pawns for American-Israeli plan in the Middle East
today S.Arabia, Egypt and The Uae support The US and Israel to kick Palestinians out of Jerusalem

and S.Arabia-The Uae support the US-Israel to destroy Syria's territorial integrity for creating Kurdistan
All true.

And never forget that traitor Kurds and Iran backed shiite Iraqis welcomed invasion of Iraq by the US and the UK .... traitor Kurds and Iran backed shiite Iraqis never fought against the US and the UK
Here clearly not true. Iran was strongly opposed to the US invasion of Iraq. Iraqi shias backed by Iran were the group responsible for most US deaths in Iraq.
 
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No such thing as one Arab identity.

Arabism, Baathism (Arab Socialism,) Nasserism, and pro-KSA Muslim Brotherhood factions have all failed.

All that is left are a states who are puppet of foreign powers. Some clients to US, others to Russia/Iran.

Isn’t it time to accept it?

You are Muslims first and there is no difference between you and any other Muslim.

We are all on the hit list, just at different times.



It is not hate, but rightful blame.

They created the domino effect which destroyed the Ottoman Empire and ended the Khilafat.

It all began with their ill-thoughtout attacks on the Hijaz Railways.

Atatürk did the correct thing, he recovered Turkey and repulsed their land armies. He had to officially end the Khilafat, as it had become a client state of the Europeans after losing Arabia, Egypt, etc.

Then against, Arab nationalists are doing nothing but followings the Sunnah of their progenitor, Yazid bin Muawiyah.

Bro, Just ask yourself the following question: How many islamic states were there in 1920 to 24, completely independent?

The continuation of the caliphate meant that it could be completely under the control of Britain or another hegamon step by step in that days. Think of a Vatican in Islam, a clergy group that is disconnected from its society, and deeply connected to the anglican church.

While more than 90% of the Muslim world under occupation, what could defend by young rebuplic ? What tribal leaders have gained except from a decades-long bloody price which they turned their back to the Turks as a result of great promises? Betrayal was not against us, everyone betrayed herself.


On the other hand, the Caliphate was not officially abolished. The powers were transferred to the parliament and the caliphate institution was suspended, so no assignment was made. You can find a lot of official documents. As you know , The caliphate cannot be removed, but we can say that it is very simply went on vacation. Caliphate institution does not belong to a state, it is just a sign of unity.

The period of empires ended. Now we are in another world. However , all we need to know, The sacred relics and the portents of the caliphate are not in the British Museum , but are still in the Muslim lands together with the banner of Liva-ül Hamd. Our Muslim brothers, who still call İstanbul as Constantinople , need to know this first. The holy relics of the our Prophet (sav) have been representing the honor of Istanbul for over 500 years.

What we need to think about now is how to establish an equal, fair and common order in the islamic world of the future.

They are corrupting our religion and all of our moral values under the pressure of radicalization. We must be the ones to fight this. Instead of constantly discussing the issue of the caliphate, we need to leave this behind and learn to unite in our common values. At least, we need to achieve a minimum of understanding, and learn to walk with an unwavering belief, even if few in number.
 
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One must not forget that eventhough Khilafa is and was important for a United Muslim community the Ottomans had completed their shelf life. They were shoulders deep in debt, millet system was collapsing, secularism was their driving force in the later period, they had gone deeper into sufism and away from tenets of Islam... one must understand that they were secular before much of the world became secular. They were buried deep in consumerism before the rest of the world caught up. France and Britain were keeping the empire alive to suck the last drop of blood from the dying corpse. They didn't want the Russians to overrun Ottomans and stop the gravy train. At the end everyone played their part, from the secular elite of Ottomans to secular Mustafa Kemal... Sharif of Mecca decided to abandon the Turks and envisioned an Arab fiefdom under him... but Sauds were equal to the task and took Hijaz... what we see today is a crop sown a long time ago... most of the former colonial masters have gone down in the dustbin of history yet the boot lickers are still paying their homage.
 
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Look at the Sweetness of Muslim Brotherhood Spilling all around in this forum from Muslims of different parts of the world who were not even born during the events under discussion. :pop:
They cannot even respect each other for difference of opinion regarding past events and expect them to unite in their present. And these are not the Politicians and leaders on this forum. This is General Public MashALLAH :sleep:
 
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Look at the Sweetness of Muslim Brotherhood Spilling all around in this forum from Muslims of different parts of the world who were not even born during the events under discussion. :pop:
They cannot even respect each other for difference of opinion regarding past events and expect them to unite in their present. And these are not the Politicians and leaders on this forum. This is General Public MashALLAH :sleep:

Ottomans and Mughals were great empires dedicated to spreading Islam, protecting Muslims, and unifying the Islamic world.

What did Arabs gain from backstabbing their legitimate heads of state? Nothing.

The situation for Arabs has become so bad, Arab life is the cheapest in the whole world, and Arab regimes or Iran don’t care how many they kill for their own selfish ambitions.

They even have made peace with and legitimized Israel in their depths of feebleness and weakness.

Compare Palestine, where all Arab neighbors have abandoned them, to Kashmir, where Pakistan stands resolutely behind them, or Nagorbo-Karabakh and North Cyprus, where Turkey and Azerbaijan support them.

they had gone deeper into sufism and away from tenets of Islam

Turks, like Pakistanis/Afghans, were taught by mostly Persian Sunni Hanafi Sufi scholars, hence we adopted that mazhab and philosophy.

Sufism actually was a source of strength and unifier of Turkish states, the same trend flows even now in most European, Eurasian, Asian, Berber, African, Southeast Asian Muslim states.
 
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One must not forget that eventhough Khilafa is and was important for a United Muslim community the Ottomans had completed their shelf life. They were shoulders deep in debt, millet system was collapsing, secularism was their driving force in the later period, they had gone deeper into sufism and away from tenets of Islam... one must understand that they were secular before much of the world became secular. They were buried deep in consumerism before the rest of the world caught up. France and Britain were keeping the empire alive to suck the last drop of blood from the dying corpse. They didn't want the Russians to overrun Ottomans and stop the gravy train. At the end everyone played their part, from the secular elite of Ottomans to secular Mustafa Kemal... Sharif of Mecca decided to abandon the Turks and envisioned an Arab fiefdom under him... but Sauds were equal to the task and took Hijaz... what we see today is a crop sown a long time ago... most of the former colonial masters have gone down in the dustbin of history yet the boot lickers are still paying their homage.

Depends on what sufism it is if you are talking about jokers today who call themselves sufis are not true sufis. By the way the sufi vs salafi stuff are dumb and stupid i seen both sides throwing out bullshit lies at each other. I remember being part of this I was with the sufis and disdained salafis by calling them wahabis after I became more salafi and disdaining sufis.

Now I realise they are all name tags nothing else follow the Quran and the Sunnah and be a good Muslim. Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi and Maliki are all right none of them are superior over the other.

A lot of our Muslim heroes were actually Sufi like Saladin, Omar Al Mukthar and Imam Shamil. All of them were strict monotheists. None of them bragged about being a Sufi and started putting people down what mattered they were Muslim and did their service to Islam did they have their faults no doubt they were human like all of us.

Ottomans, Mughals, Seljuks and various other Islamic Empires had their good and bad along with leaving a legacy for us to be proud of as Muslims. As Muslims we need to strive and be better than what happened in the past.

If westerners are so proud of their history and what they achieved us Muslims should also be proud of what our ancestors achieved and try to do better than what they achieved.
 
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Arabs do not love Turks, neither do they love the Ottoman Empire. They see you as enemies. You are very badly mistaken about Arabs.

Only pathetic slave Arab Regimes and some Anglo-saxon puppet Arabs dont love Ottoman Empire and Turkey


most of Arabs in Gulf Countries , Jordan , Iraq , Syria , Egypt , Libya , Palestine , Algeria , etc love the Turks and the Ottoman Empire

There are millions of Arab refugees in Turkey and millions of Arabs including from S.Arabia comes to Turkey for holiday

also Turkish TV series spread all over the Arab world, more and more Arab citizens started to be interested in Turkish culture and language and wanted to visit Turkey


Arab Peoples dont have problem with the Turks and the Ottoman Empire
but Anglo-saxon puppet Arab Regimes and Dictators aiming to destroy the friendship between the two societies ( Turks and Arabs ) by asserting baseless claims


During the Ottoman Empire period nobody could touch Arabs
but after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire , The US,The UK,France,Russia,Israel and Iran killed millions of Arabs in Algeria , Iraq , Syria , Libya , Yemen , Egypt , Palestine , etc


The TURKS ( Seljuks and Ottomans ) protected all Islamic World including Arabs from savage Christian Europeans since 1096 CRUSADES
 
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Only pathetic slave Arab Regimes and some Anglo-saxon puppet Arabs dont love Ottoman Empire and Turkey


most of Arabs in Gulf Countries , Jordan , Iraq , Syria , Egypt , Libya , Palestine , Algeria , etc love the Turks and the Ottoman Empire

There are millions of Arab refugees in Turkey and millions of Arabs including from S.Arabia comes to Turkey for holiday

also Turkish TV series spread all over the Arab world, more and more Arab citizens started to be interested in Turkish culture and language and wanted to visit Turkey


Arab Peoples dont have problem with the Turks and the Ottoman Empire
but Anglo-saxon puppet Arab Regimes and Dictators aiming to destroy the friendship between the two societies ( Turks and Arabs ) by asserting baseless claims


During the Ottoman Empire period nobody could touch Arabs
but after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire , The US,The UK,France,Russia,Israel and Iran killed millions of Arabs in Algeria , Iraq , Syria , Libya , Yemen , Egypt , Palestine , etc

Ottoman empire is dead and won't return either, the only thing your Erdogan achieved is a Kurdistan and 500 military operations in northern Iraq since 1991 with no effect. Meanwhile during Saddam there was no PKK, he was more effective than the entire Turkish army against the PKK.
 
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Ottoman empire is dead and won't return either, the only thing your Erdogan achieved is a Kurdistan and 500 military operations in northern Iraq since 1991 with no effect. Meanwhile during Saddam there was no PKK, he was more effective than the entire Turkish army against the PKK.

Every Empire is dead and won't return either
but Zionist Israel is rising since 1947 and S.Arabia-The Uae support The US-Israel for Zionist plan ( Greater Israel )

Kurdistan = Zionist Plan
The US-Israel uses stupid Kurds to take parts from Iraq,Syria,Turkey and Iran for Zionist plan ( Greater Israel )
then Israel will start killing the Kurds as like Palestians to occupy so-called Kurdistan and whole world will watch on TV how will Israel kill the Kurds

also The US-Israel will take parts from Egypt and S.Arabia for Zionist plan ( Greater Israel ) and Arabs can not do anything against The US-Israel


the US and the UK used stupid SADDAM and SADDAM did a big mistake to attack Kuwait
We have seen American democrasy in Iraq and Libya ,, only terrorist organizations , millions of deaths and civil war , blood , tears and demolition

SADDAM and GADDAFI ruled Iraq and Libya million times better and better
 
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Every Empire is dead and won't return either
but Zionist Israel is rising since 1947 and S.Arabia-The Uae support The US-Israel for Zionist plan ( Greater Israel )

Kurdistan = Zionist Plan
The US-Israel uses stupid Kurds to take parts from Iraq,Syria,Turkey and Iran for Zionist plan ( Greater Israel )
then Israel will start killing the Kurds as like Palestians to occupy so-called Kurdistan and whole world will watch on TV how will Israel kill the Kurds

also The US-Israel will take parts from Egypt and S.Arabia for Zionist plan ( Greater Israel ) and Arabs can not do anything against The US-Israel


the US and the UK used stupid SADDAM and SADDAM did a big mistake to attack Kuwait
We have seen American democrasy in Iraq and Libya ,, only terrorist organizations , millions of deaths and civil war , blood , tears and demolition

SADDAM and GADDAFI ruled Iraq and Libya million times better and better

The US uses Turkey (NATO) Incirlik to create a Kurdistan, used Incirlik in the 1991 war even with B-52 bomber aircrafts.

Turkey is still under American thumb, the only thing Erdogan does is bark so stop kidding yourself. If Turkey was truly opposing the US you would be sanctioned and your economy would be fucked right now.
 
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Arabs love or dont love to Turkey . is this too important lol .
0(Arabs) is ineffective element both Mathematics and Turkey:lol:
 
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Arabs love or dont love to Turkey . is this too important lol .
0(Arabs) is ineffective element both Mathematics and Turkey:lol:

You're already Arabized, what non-Arab remnants do you have. The sky deity Tengri the faggot? whoever follows him will be taught a lesson in Turkey by our fellow Arabized Islamist Turks.

The liberals/LGBT/alcoholics of Istanbul and Izmir are migrating to western Europe thanks to Arab policies by our fellow Arabized Erdogan, what more do you want?
 
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