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Saudi Arabia and the UAE's propaganda war against Qatar

Notwithstanding the underlying disagreements between Qatar and its GCC neighbors over its support for the Muslim Brotherhood and other Sunni Islamist movements, the timing of the public outcry against the emir of Qatar by thousands of Saudis on Twitter was still extremely shocking and unprecedented
Interesting, You do make good points on here, though you often get insults for doing so.
I do know from what I've red that other KSA and other Gulf states have had a troubled relationship with Qatar for a while now. From what I've red, it's mostly due to Qatar's support for the muslim brotherhood and other radicals sunni Islamists groups.

KSA and other Gulf states see these Islamists groups as a threat to their regime, since these sunni Islamists groups are against the Monarchs ruling the Arab world(mainly KSA and gulf states). Funny enough, Qatar itself is a monarchy, so it's surprising to see that they still support these sunni Islamists groups who have long seeked to topple monarchs in the region. Can you elucidate more on this? Why does Qatar royal family support them despite know this? It will also be interesting to see who western powers like U S,U K , France will support in case hostility between both sides increase, since all of them are close allies with western powers.

Always good to learn something new.:)
 
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Qatar and Saudi Arabia have a feud ever since the ex Emir of Qatar's bloodless coup against his father.

Emir of Qatar deposed by his son
Palace coup: Sheikh, overthrown in bloodless takeover while on visit to Geneva, vows to return


The Independent Online
PATRICK COCKBURN


Deposed by his own son in a bloodless palace coup, the Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Khalifa bin Hamad al-Thani, yesterday said he would return, whatever the cost. He dubbed the coup the "abnormal behaviour of an ignorant man".

After ousting his father, Crown Prince Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani said in a brief televised address: "I am not happy with what has happened, but it had to be done and I had to do it." Senior members of the ruling al-Thani family, which numbers some 1,500 men, gathered in the capital, Doha, to pledge allegiance.

Sheikh Khalifa, 63, who was visiting Switzerland when deposed, shows no sign of giving up. He said other Gulf state leaders had pledged support, adding: "I am still their legitimate emir, whether it is for the royal family, for the people, or for the army and I will return home whatever it costs." However last night a State Department spokesman in Washington said the United States recognised the new emir after receiving assurances over its relations with Iran and Iraq.

Qatar is a barren peninsula, but industrialised countries follow its fortunes closely, because it sits on top of the North Field, the world's largest single gas field, and has 5 per cent of world gas reserves. The coup, even though it occurred within the royal family, will still cause concern among the oil states of the Gulf and their foreign backers, all of whom feel intensely vulnerable to internal and external threats.

Sheikh Hamad, 45, the new Emir, told an emergency cabinet meeting that circumstances which he did not explain had forced him "to take the reins of power in the country, thus replacing my father, who will remain the respected and beloved father of everyone". But the endorsement seems unlikely to mollify the former Emir, who ousted his uncle in his own palace coup in 1972, a year after Qatar was given independence by Britain.

The Qatari peninsula is one of the world's least habitable places, its sandy wastes rising just above the shallows of the Gulf. Qatari men are usually given work in the public sector while everything else is done by Indians, Pakistanis and other expatriates who make up three- quarters of the population.

Sheikh Hamad has been Crown Prince since 1977, and the most powerful figure in Qatar after the Emir since the Eighties. His action yesterday may have been sparked by an attempt by his father to regain lost authority. The coup's mechanics consisted of no more than sending troops to Rayyan Palace, where his father lived, and to Doha airport.

The coup will not be greeted enthusiastically by rulers of the other Arab oil states. Sheikh Hamad has always advocated an independent foreign policy, notably different from that of Saudi Arabia - he has good relations with Iran, which wants a share in the offshore North Field, but has also restored relations with Iraq. At the same time, Qatar is negotiating a $1bn gas deal with Israel.

The ousted Emir, Sheikh Khalifa, had kept his control over Qatar's oil money, even after ceding authority elsewhere. Like most oil state rulers, he saw himself, not unjustifiably, as surrounded by people, indigenous and foreign, who wanted to part him from his money.

A telephone conversation between Sheikh Khalifa and King Fahd of Saudi Arabia on the eve of the 1990 Gulf crisis, which was intercepted and later published by Iraq, gives a sense of the fears haunting Gulf rulers. King Fahd: "We are envied as Gulf states. Yet, where were those who now envy us when we were poor? They did not say 'Our brothers have nothing'." Sheikh Khalifa: "No, they didn't."
 
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with all of that Qataris have right to fear about Trump trip.
Qatar is have no reason to fear the Trump or the US..Trump is after the Saudis hide, and before his 8 years are over, he will have them skinned and nailed to a cross..
But they need to fear the UAE, that has a different agenda a lot more dangerous to their survival as a country than the Sauds...
 
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Qatar believes that if the UAE breaks up Yemen, then South Yemen will become a secular and anti-Islamist country, which will strengthen the UAE's regional influence and weaken Qatar's.
Is that not a good thing?:what:

Qatar is have no reason to fear the Trump or the US..Trump is after the Saudis hide, and before his 8 years are over, he will have them skinned and nailed to a cross..
But they need to fear the UAE, that has a different agenda a lot more dangerous to their survival as a country than the Sauds...
But Qatar itself is a strong U.S/British/French ally(or "puppet" as you like to call it). So how can they be afraid of Trump/U S who by the way is their main security guarantor(with military bases in the country)? Lol
 
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Qatar is have no reason to fear the Trump or the US..Trump is after the Saudis hide, and before his 8 years are over, he will have them skinned and nailed to a cross..
But they need to fear the UAE, that has a different agenda a lot more dangerous to their survival as a country than the Sauds...
absolutely, I do not mean Trump or American.
I said Trump trip and consequences of this trip.

All this is completely irrelevant. GCC's present and future is closely tied. Tiny Qatar with a native population of 200.000 does not pose any threat to KSA whatsoever and never has or will. If not for the US KSA could in theory invade Qatar within less than 24 hours

Although Qatar is a peninsula and buffered by a body of water on 3 sides, Qatar's capital city (Doha) feels dangerously close to the capitals of 3 countries: Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.

as you can see both of these guys same as me mentioned about real Saudi ambition in region one from Kuwait and one from Najd and that is not something new here and they think about that and I am sure they have plan for that.

and that does not mean American cheer saudis for that.
 
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KSA and other Gulf states see these Islamists groups as a threat to their regime, since these sunni Islamists groups are against the Monarchs ruling the Arab world(mainly KSA and gulf states). Funny enough, Qatar itself is a monarchy, so it's surprising to see that they still support these sunni Islamists groups who have long seeked to topple monarchs in the region.

This is the real reason the west and its puppets portray Islamic groups like MB as terrorists or radicals. This goal of the Islamic groups is legitimate, so their adversaries paint them as terrorists in order to divert attention away from this fact. In other words the so-called champions of democracy do not hesitate to turn the entire ME into an inferno in order to protect the illegitimate monarchies.
 
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This is the real reason the west and its puppets portray Islamic groups like MB as terrorists or radicals. This goal of the Islamic groups is legitimate, so their adversaries paint them as terrorists in order to divert attention away from this fact. In other words the so-called champions of democracy do not hesitate to turn the entire ME into an inferno in order to protect the illegitimate monarchies.

LOL So using your logic the Egyptian government has labeled the sunni radical extremists group MB terrorists in other to turn the entire Middle East into an inferno and protect its "Monarchy"(even though Egypt has none) ? Lol Never mind that the MB and it's affiliates(like "Egyptian Islamic Jihad" which broke away from the MB) have carried out several terror attacks in Egypt itself which the Egyptian government have called them out on it.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN0W80GV
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ws...-for-apparent-suicide-bomb-14-dead-1387904854
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....ood-over-coptic-church-attack-suspect-mustafa

Some of you like blaming the West over everything that happens in your countries/region without even thinking things through. I don't know if it's a reflex action or something. For your information the countries that have officially label the MB a terrorist group (which I agree they are, our government should also follow suite) are : Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Syria and Russia. lol. As you can see there's no western country involved(not yet though, since some are still considering labeling them a terrorist group, which I believe will be a good thing) unfortunately for you. So this time you can't use the "evil" West as a punching bag. lol

Dude, the middle East is more complex than a simple black and white flag. :D.

No doubt the muslim brotherhood and it's ideology isn't much different from other radical islamic extremists group like AL Qaeda, Al nusra etc. I'm even surprised countries like Iran, Turkey and even Qatar(Monarchy rule) even support them. However, I understand why, since its for their own interest which is normal, since that's what every power does at the end of the day, That's geopolitics for you. :chilli:
 
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LOL So using your logic the Egyptian government has labeled the sunni radical extremists group MB terrorists in other to turn the entire Middle East into an inferno and protect its "Monarchy"(even Egypt has none)

Don't say Egyptian government, say the sissy regime which came to power with guns blazing. This very act was the height of terrorism against the elected government which was overthrown.
 
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Don't say Egyptian government, say the sissy regime which came to power with guns blazing. This very act was the height of terrorism against the elected government which was overthrown.
Lol ok if you say so. So what about the other countries I mentioned then? :D
 
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This is the real reason the west and its puppets portray Islamic groups like MB as terrorists or radicals. This goal of the Islamic groups is legitimate, so their adversaries paint them as terrorists in order to divert attention away from this fact. In other words the so-called champions of democracy do not hesitate to turn the entire ME into an inferno in order to protect the illegitimate monarchies.

Exactly.
 
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LOL So using your logic the Egyptian government has labeled the sunni radical extremists group MB terrorists in other to turn the entire Middle East into an inferno and protect its "Monarchy"(even Egypt has none) ? Lol Never mind that the MB and it's affiliates(like "Egyptian Islamic Jihad" which broke away from the MB) have carried out several terror attacks in Egypt itself which the Egyptian government have called them out on it.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN0W80GV
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ws...-for-apparent-suicide-bomb-14-dead-1387904854
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....ood-over-coptic-church-attack-suspect-mustafa

Some of you like blaming the West over everything that happens in your countries/region without even thinking things through. I don't know if it's a reflex action or something. For your information the countries that have officially label the MB a terrorist group (which I agree they are, our government should also follow suite) are : Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Syria and Russia. lol. As you can see there's no western country involved(not yet though, since some are still considering labeling them a terrorist group, which I believe will be a good thing) unfortunately for you. So this time you can't use the "evil" West as a punching bag. lol

Dude, the middle East is more complex than a simple black and white flag. :D.

No doubt the muslim brotherhood and it's ideology isn't much different from other radical islamic extremists group. I'm surprised countries like Iran, Turkey and even Qatar(Monarchy rule) even support them. However, I understand why, since it for their own interest which is normal, since that's what every power does at the end of the day, That's geopolitics for you. :chilli:

Please have a read of this article, from the CS Monitor. T-Rex hit the nail on the head.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2014/0418/Behind-Qatar-s-bet-on-the-Muslim-Brotherhood
 
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