Russian FM arrived Pakistan on Two days official visit - MoFA Pakistan .

[nahtanbob]

Don't mind if Putin doesn't come as long as the Russians keep sending their planes and pilots over .
Check below


they ran away and landed in area adjacent to Pak-Afghan border i.e miranshah,chitral,qillah etc
Also force landed some,like these mig-21 and su-22 for example.

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The force landing was not exactly forced it was "unintentionally imposed",An-24 was destroyed by PAF f-16 which scared the shit out of every DRAAF( Democratic Republic of Afghanistan Air Force) pilot,so much so they defected like little kids,Pakistan was like that edhi wala jhola for afghan pilots.

Pak captured Hind in China
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I suppose some folks are happy shooting 50 year old MiG-21 and Su-22. I suppose video games are fun too

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I would say climate change and John Kerry is far more consequential to India than the Russian FM

According to Indians Modi meet the equals! Lol.

Unless you been living under the rock, you cant be excused not knowing who Lavrov is and his stature in international diplomacy.

 

[Baibars_1260]

I suppose some folks are happy shooting 50 year old MiG-21 and Su-22. I suppose video games are fun too

We didn't shoot them down . We just "persuaded " them to land like we "persuaded " your Brijpal Singh Sikand to land his Gnat.
When was the last time your Vayusena shot down a plane ?
P-3 Orion propeller driven in 1999 ?

Returning to the topic .

We like Lavrov and we like him talking to our CAS .

Russia Agrees to Supply Military Equipment to Pakistan, to Hold More Joint Exercises

“We stand ready to strengthen the anti-terrorist potential of Pakistan, including by supplying Pakistan with special military equipment,” Sergei Lavrov said.

thewire.in

Russia Agrees to Supply Military Equipment to Pakistan, to Hold More Joint Exercises
“We stand ready to strengthen the anti-terrorist potential of Pakistan, including by supplying Pakistan with special military equipment,” Sergei Lavrov said.

( Link )

 

[Bambi]

We didn't shoot them down . We just "persuaded " them to land like we "persuaded " your Brijpal Singh Sikand to land his Gnat.
When was the last time your Vayusena shot down a plane ?
P-3 Orion propeller driven in 1999 ?

Returning to the topic .

We like Lavrov and we like him talking to our CAS .

Russia Agrees to Supply Military Equipment to Pakistan, to Hold More Joint Exercises

“We stand ready to strengthen the anti-terrorist potential of Pakistan, including by supplying Pakistan with special military equipment,” Sergei Lavrov said.

thewire.in

Russia Agrees to Supply Military Equipment to Pakistan, to Hold More Joint Exercises
“We stand ready to strengthen the anti-terrorist potential of Pakistan, including by supplying Pakistan with special military equipment,” Sergei Lavrov said.

( Link )

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What does this mean

P-3 Orion propeller driven in 1999 ?

 

[Baibars_1260]

According to Indians Modi meet the equals! Lol.

Unless you been living under the rock, you cant be excused not knowing who Lavrov is and his stature in international diplomacy.

Taimoor,
Do you see how the climate has changed ?

At one time it was Hindi Rusi Bhai Bhai ?
Now it is "We don't care ? "

If they don't care then why the coverage in the Godi media about where Lavrov went ?
Lavrov is in Kazakhastan now and none of our Indian "guests" here even know this .

What does this mean

P-3 Orion propeller driven in 1999 ?

Sorry, I meant Breguet Atlantique shot down on August 10, 1999.
Thanks for correcting .

 

[mikkix]

No equipment for Pakistan. Afghanistan peace process is the issue.

 

[Baibars_1260]

No equipment for Pakistan. Afghanistan peace process is the issue.

“We stand ready to strengthen the anti-terrorist potential of Pakistan, including by supplying Pakistan with special military equipment,”
Sergei Lavrov
Islamabad, April 7. 2021.

 

[flameboard]

US giving Pakistan the cold shoulder so Russia swooping in?

 

[nahtanbob]

We didn't shoot them down . We just "persuaded " them to land like we "persuaded " your Brijpal Singh Sikand to land his Gnat.
When was the last time your Vayusena shot down a plane ?
P-3 Orion propeller driven in 1999 ?

Returning to the topic .

We like Lavrov and we like him talking to our CAS .

Russia Agrees to Supply Military Equipment to Pakistan, to Hold More Joint Exercises

“We stand ready to strengthen the anti-terrorist potential of Pakistan, including by supplying Pakistan with special military equipment,” Sergei Lavrov said.

thewire.in

Russia Agrees to Supply Military Equipment to Pakistan, to Hold More Joint Exercises
“We stand ready to strengthen the anti-terrorist potential of Pakistan, including by supplying Pakistan with special military equipment,” Sergei Lavrov said.

Equipment is great except Russians like to be paid in hard cash

 

[Baibars_1260]

Equipment is great except Russians like to be paid in hard cash

Oh we will pay them in hard cash.
After all they gave us a lot of these free.
1. On sep 29, 1989, Capt. Jalal Uddin Wardak (Afghan Air Force) flying a MiG-21bis defected from Afghanistan to Pakistan.

2.Afghan AF Su-22M4 "804" along with MiG-21bis "957" fled to Pakistan.

3. Former Afghan Air Force Antonov A-26 Curl (Tail.No. 276) after being restored at PAF Museum. This An-26 was operated by the PAF's No. 12 Squadron at Chaklala for a short duration.
4.

An Afghan Air Force MiG-21bis Fishbed-L '957 Red' flown to Pakistan in October 1989 by its defecting pilot. This was the fourth MiG-21 to arrive by the same method since 1986.

An Afghan Captured Su-22 - "A disillusioned young Afghan Air Force fighter pilot defected to Pakistan with this 'fitter-K'."

Defected Afghanistan Air Force Mig-21 at static display at PAF museum Karachi, It defected to Peshawar during the Afghan Crisis.

An-26 Defected From Afghan Air Force In Service With Pakistan Air Force.

We got some helicopters too.
Some shots of the Afghani Mi24, they actually flew for some time by Gallants Sqn in Quetta

But more than hard cash what the Russians really want is this !
The warm waters of Gwadar.

 

[Trango Towers]

As far as arms are concerned, we probably won't be getting anything big. A few IFVs? or a replacement for Type 56. Otherwise, I don't think Russian planes are coming to Pakistan anytime soon considering we don't need them as well.

With jf17 block 3 imminent
Project azm and 5th gen on the drawing board.

Why buy from russia

 

[Baibars_1260]

With jf17 block 3 imminent
Project azm and 5th gen on the drawing board.

Why buy from russia

Not needed. A strategic relationship is more important. BRI through Afghanistan and the access through to Gwadar.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Prolly only more Mi35s

 

[nahtanbob]

Oh we will pay them in hard cash.
After all they gave us a lot of these free.
1. On sep 29, 1989, Capt. Jalal Uddin Wardak (Afghan Air Force) flying a MiG-21bis defected from Afghanistan to Pakistan.
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2.Afghan AF Su-22M4 "804" along with MiG-21bis "957" fled to Pakistan.
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3. Former Afghan Air Force Antonov A-26 Curl (Tail.No. 276) after being restored at PAF Museum. This An-26 was operated by the PAF's No. 12 Squadron at Chaklala for a short duration.
4.
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An Afghan Air Force MiG-21bis Fishbed-L '957 Red' flown to Pakistan in October 1989 by its defecting pilot. This was the fourth MiG-21 to arrive by the same method since 1986.
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An Afghan Captured Su-22 - "A disillusioned young Afghan Air Force fighter pilot defected to Pakistan with this 'fitter-K'."
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Defected Afghanistan Air Force Mig-21 at static display at PAF museum Karachi, It defected to Peshawar during the Afghan Crisis.
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An-26 Defected From Afghan Air Force In Service With Pakistan Air Force.

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We got some helicopters too.
Some shots of the Afghani Mi24, they actually flew for some time by Gallants Sqn in Quetta

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But more than hard cash what the Russians really want is this !
The warm waters of Gwadar.

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Those "free" aircraft will cost you a lot more than you bargained for

Face it Pakistan does not have the $$$ to acquire even 40 Su-35s

What are Russians going to do with warm waters ? If they want warm waters they fly to Greece or Spain or Italy On a serious note you are 40 years too late to that game. that is a deal that will look attractive in 1979

 

[Baibars_1260]

Those "free" aircraft will cost you a lot more than you bargained for

Well, actually they cost your country a lot more than you bargained for.
Our pilots flew those aircraft for
DACT ( Dissimilar air combat training) which enabled us to dink your Mig 21 ( "The Tea is Fantastic" ). Also by having our Chinese allies look at these aircraft ( particularly their engines and electronics) , we were able to work with them and move forward out of the "100 hour engine life ". F-6 era , and develop F-7s, and much later the JF-17s.
Since our prime enemy ( that means the fascist regime next door ) , flew most of these type of aircraft ( excluding Su-22s) , sharing the performances of these aircraft with out ally China further strengthened our relationship. Our help to the aviation industry of our Chinese allies has not been forgotten. The dividends have been many times.

Face it Pakistan does not have the $$$ to acquire even 40 Su-35s

Face it .. Our prime source of weapons, is not Russia but our prime ally China, which has $$$$$$ and an economy three times that of Russia and India combined.
( On 2020 figures, China $14.7 T , India $2.6 T, Russia $1.4 T ) . The Chinese have Su-35s too, and learning from them. Your ex-buddies also sold them RD-93 engines which we then buy for our JF-17 fighters .
Knock ! Knock ! Reality check,
It is not 1971 anymore .

What are Russians going to do with warm waters ? If they want warm waters they fly to Greece or Spain or Italy On a serious note you are 40 years too late to that game. that is a deal that will look attractive in 1979

Your ignorance is profound. The phrase "warm water" is used not for a holiday resort ( The Russians have Sochi ) but for strategic access. In this era every military power needs access to the Persian Gulf and Red Sea.
Ask your ex-buddy Lavrov why his country is interested ( Link ) , and why he is in Pakistan. He could just have flown over and never bothered. The agreement over the long cherished access was made five years back even as the harbor was under development.
Indian discomfort ( Link ) is evident
Look what your favorite hack has to say.