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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Russia could throw the entire sink in my opinion due to Ukraine's drone attacks on Russia.. This is like puking the Bear a bit to far.. This could occur very soon.

This is escalating to be fairly honest even more then I realized previously. The Russians will come down hard and might expand into NATO countries neighbouring Russia

Can't escalate anymore than Russia already has. What are they going to do different??

And expand into NATO???? lol. Based on your flag, you'd be in the firing line, maybe start packing your bags?
 
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You don’t get the picture. The reason why Ukraine can attack targets deep inside Russia is: Russia air defense sucks. Or weak to non existent, because many of those systems are deployed in Ukraine to protect Russia invasion army.
Putin is so obsessed with attacking Ukraine civil infra that he even decimates Russia air defense.
For instance Russia S300 anti aircraft systems are reprogrammed as land attack missiles.

Wait until a Ukraine drone drops a bomb thru Putin’s dining room.
And why they target airbases instead other nearer more valious targets?

I thing the reason is Ukrainian drones use Russian airplanes coming back home as umbrella for Russian ground radars, so they only can attack targets in that path.

But I think, Russian airplanes dont have any kind of radar to detect drones? maybe Russian airplanes radars are very simple and it can't detect drones flying low near to them.

What money?
You can only get money if you can sell.
No, russian elites don’t buy Lada. They buy overpriced BMW or French bags.

Even Putin, the hooligan, loves Mercedes when visiting the damaged Crimea bridge.

They can't sell to the West, but China will buy all the energy they can buy and even more.
 
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Maybe Russian airplanes radar have some blackout point around them, Ukraine knows it, and they move the drones always in the same point from the Russian airplane to avoid detection.
 
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You're comparing an insurgency to a conventional war.

So fat almost all of your replies and comments have been intellectually dishonest.


Insurgency is a weaker opponent's way of weakening the resolve of a much powerful adversary.

Don't get personal; if you don't like my comments, you can put me in your ignore.

Don't you get tired of lying and spreading misinformation?

It seems my comments are getting into someone's skin. Sorry, they are not stopping any soon.
 
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Russia-Ukraine WarState Department Walks Careful Line On Russian Attacks​

Dec. 6, 2022Updated 6:30 p.m. ET
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  1. Bakhmut, Ukraine

    Bakhmut, UkraineFew remaining residents venture out on the streets.
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  2. Kursk, RussiaDrone strike hits Russian air base.
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  3. Bakhmut, UkraineA Ukrainian armored personnel carrier.
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  4. Kharkiv, UkraineAttending the funeral of Volodymyr Vakulenko, a Ukrainian writer.
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  5. Vyshhorod, Ukraine
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  6. Malotaranivka, UkraineThe aftermath of a missile attack at a school.
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  7. Bakhmut, UkraineMedics helping an injured soldier at a frontline hospital.
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  8. Odesa, UkraineCommuting during a power cut.
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  9. Kyiv, UkraineSheltering in a metro station during strikes.
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After two days of drone attacks inside Russia, a State Department spokesman said the United States was not “enabling Ukraine to strike beyond its borders.”

The U.S. stopped short of condemning attacks inside Russia, but said it did not encourage them.


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Ned Price, the State Department spokesman, said the United States is not encouraging Ukraine to strike beyond its borders.

Ned Price, the State Department spokesman, said the United States is not encouraging Ukraine to strike beyond its borders.Credit...Pool photo by Andrew Harnik

Ned Price, the State Department spokesman, said the United States is not encouraging Ukraine to strike beyond its borders.

The United States is not encouraging Ukraine to attack Russian targets beyond its borders, a State Department spokesman said on Tuesday, after two days of what appeared to be Ukrainian drone strikes on military bases deep within Russian territory.
“We are not enabling Ukraine to strike beyond its borders. We are not encouraging Ukraine to strike beyond its borders,” Ned Price, the State Department spokesman, said at a daily news briefing. Drones struck an oil facility near an air base in Russia on Tuesday, a local official said, just a day after Ukraine used drones to hit two military bases deep inside the country, one of the most brazen attacks of the nine-month-old war. The strikes inside Russian territory have raised fears that the war might escalate.
Washington has so far resisted requests from Kyiv to provide Ukraine with long-range weapons — like missiles and fighter jets — that would be capable of reaching deep into Russia.
Mr. Price cautioned that he was not aware of any official claims of responsibility for the drone attacks that have been widely attributed to Ukraine. He said that the United States is focused on the goal of helping Ukraine recover territory seized by Russian forces.
While Mr. Price stopped short of condemning Ukrainian attacks within Russia, his clear emphasis was on U.S. support for operations inside Ukraine’s borders.
“Everything we are doing, everything the world is doing to support Ukraine, is in support of Ukraine’s independence, its sovereignty, its territorial integrity,” Mr. Price said. “We are providing Ukraine with what it needs to use on its sovereign territory, on Ukrainian soil, to take on Russian aggressors.”
Asked at a Monday evening conference sponsored by The Wall Street Journal whether the United States was concerned that strikes within Russia could escalate the conflict, Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken said America’s focus was on ensuring that Ukraine could defend itself and “take back territory that’s been seized from it since February 24th.”
It was unclear whether Mr. Blinken’s mention of the Feb. 24 lines was deliberate. Before its full-scale invasion of Ukraine on that date, Russia already occupied much of the country’s eastern Donbas region, as well as Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula, which the Kremlin annexed in 2014.
Asked on Tuesday whether the U.S. draws any distinction between Ukrainian land seized by Russia after its Feb. 24 invasion of the country and territory it was occupying previously, Mr. Price demurred.
“It’s a question for the Ukrainian government. It is not a question for the U.S. government,” he said.
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The latest drone strike hits an oil facility near an air base 80 miles from the Ukrainian border.

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A blast at a Russian airfield came a day after Ukraine appeared to use drones to target two military bases deep inside Russia.CreditCredit...MIC Izvestia/IZ.RU via Reuters
KYIV, Ukraine — Drones struck an oil facility near an air base in Russia on Tuesday, a local official said, just a day after Ukraine appeared to use drones to hit two military bases deep inside the country, one of the most brazen attacks of the nine-month-old war.
Ukraine has not explicitly claimed responsibility for the attacks on either day, following its practice regarding military actions inside Russia. Russian officials did not directly accuse Ukraine in Tuesday’s attack, which hit an oil depot in the Kursk region, 80 miles from the border.
But the back-to-back drone strikes over two days were widely seen as another sign of Kyiv’s willingness to bring the war closer to Moscow.
Ukraine’s attacks far inside Russia’s border have altered the geography of the war, showing holes in Moscow’s air defense and signaling a determination to make Russia pay a heavier price for its unrelenting assault on Ukraine’s civilians.
After Monday’s strikes, Russia launched a volley of missiles at Ukraine that left half of the capital region of Kyiv without electricity and worsened rolling power outages across the country. Many Ukrainians have been without heat and water in frigid temperatures.
Monday’s attacks struck two military installations hundreds of miles inside the Russian border — the Engels airfield and the Dyagilevo military base — according to Russia’s Defense Ministry and a senior Ukrainian official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to convey sensitive information.
The drones were launched from Ukrainian territory, and in at least one of the strikes, Ukrainian special forces working near the base helped guide the drones to the target, the senior official said.
Yurii Ihnat, a spokesman for the Ukrainian Air Force, said that the damage to the airfield at Engels appeared minimal. “But it is an alarming signal for them,” he said on Ukrainian national television.
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An image released by the administration of the Kursk region of Russia on Tuesday showed smoke rising above the area near the Kursk airport.

An image released by the administration of the Kursk region of Russia on Tuesday showed smoke rising above the area near the Kursk airport.
Many of Ukraine’s Western allies have sought to avoid escalating the conflict and consistently declined to provide Kyiv with weapons that it could use to hit targets on Moscow’s territory. But Ukraine has shown that it is capable of developing its own arsenal. The Kremlin said that the attacks on Monday were carried out by Soviet-era jet drones.
Mick Ryan, a retired Australian Army officer, wrote on the Substack platform that the strikes on Monday had delivered “a psychological blow” to Russian people “who thought they were largely insulated from the effects of the war.” Dyagilevo lies about 100 miles from Moscow.
The Engels airfield has been a launching pad for bombers involved in missile attacks against Ukraine’s energy grid, Ukrainian officials say.
The Kursk airfield that was targeted on Tuesday is not thought to be as strategically significant, but since Russia’s full-scale invasion in February has been a base for fighter jets, according to Ukrainian intelligence reports.
Russian forces also have used positions in Kursk to launch attacks on the neighboring Sumy region of Ukraine with mortars, artillery and rocket launchers, said Dmytro Zhyvytsky, the head of the Sumy regional military administration.
On Monday, Mr. Zhyvytsky said, Russian forces near the border struck a monastery in Sumy with rockets, damaging the administrative building and other structures.
“Two cows were killed by shrapnel,” he said. “People survived.”
Marc Santora, Mike Ives and Ivan Nechepurenko

The State of the War​

 
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Only USA and Ukraine voted "No" against that resolution that condemned NAZISM and Neo-Nazism. The whole EU abstained. That is what you need to understand about Western elites.

Imagine the exact same text had been the object of a proposed resolution by some party other than Russia, particularly a NATO regime or the zionist entity occupying Palestine. And let's suppose it was unrelated to the Ukrainian context.

Not only would western regimes have voted in favor, their streamlined media apparatus wouldn't have ceased glorifying the resolution's virtues. Dissident voices would've been railed as Nazi sympathizers, monsters, demons. NATO regime supporters, trolls and bot accounts alike would've been seen cheering on.

With the behavior they exhibited at this recent UNGA vote, NATO regimes once again proved several points.

Starting with the fact that the Ukrainian comprador clique they illegitimately brought to power through a "color revolution", propping it up ever since, is indeed inextricably interconnected with local neo-Nazi elements. Elements ordered by NATO to implement a moratorium on traditional Judeophobia (hence the tolerance exhibited by these neo-Nazis for a zionist Jew as Ukraine's president) and to focus their hatred on Russians and on Russians alone (although Roma seem to have been considered fair game as well, after scenes emerged of their abuse at the hands of regime-approved Kiovan extremists).

Hence why NATO member states needed to vote against this sort of a resolution in order to lend political cover to their protégés in Kiov. A most blatant act of self-contradiction we should add, since normally anything that evokes Nazism in the slightest manner is automatically considered anathema if not downright criminalized by those same western victors of WW2. In various countries of the west, citizens happen to be imprisoned as we speak, some of whom happen to be over eighty years of age, for expressing contrary opinions about the persecution of Jewish people during WW2.

Political schizophrenia and brazen mockery of the public rarely gets more salient than this. We're dealing with fundamentally deceitful regimes which no longer bother to at least come across as credible. Revolting is the hypocrisy, and so is the attitude of those who'd feign not to perceive it.

On a sidenote I believe some pages back, someone tried to suggest that the Russophobic neo-Nazi phenomenon in Ukraine is confined to the largely obliterated Azov regiment. This is not only false in the general sense, given the documented sympathies for Stepan Bandera expressed by numerous Kiovan officials who are not classified on the far right (so much so that a major shopping artery in the center of Kiov was renamed after Bandera - I wonder which 1% party can prompt such a move); but the contention is baseless when it comes to the Ukrainian armed forces as well: Azov by far were not the only such group. Truth is that multiple other ultra-nationalist and neo-Nazi organizations continue to operate distinct units within the Kiovan military. They include the likes of Kraken, Sloboda's own militiamen and so on and so forth.

Let's not get into how the totally disproportionate political leverage of these entities exceeds their electoral relevance by magnitudes, which is why they were able to threaten former president Poroshenko so that he would allow them to keep violating the Minsk ceasefire agreements and shell Russian-speaking areas in the Donbas. That's also why in this regard, it's not relevant how many votes they received at elections.

In conclusion, allow me to express my gratitude for your steady engagement in favor of truth and justice on this thread. Do not pay attention to attempts at stifling your freedom of speech or denting your motivation through personal attacks. If a user resorts to such means, it's that they're acting out of desperation. Again, hats off to you brother and thanks for keeping us informed beyond the suffocating fog of manipulative NATO propaganda and lies.
 
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Starting with the fact that the Ukrainian comprador clique they illegally brought to power through a "color revolution", propping them up ever since, is indeed inextricably interconnected with local neo-Nazi elements. Elements ordered by NATO to implement a moratorium on traditional Judeophobia (hence their tolerance for a zionist Jew as Ukraine's president) and to focus their hatred on Russians and on Russians alone (though Roma have de facto been considered fair game as well, after scenes emerged of their abuse at the hands of regime-approved Ukrainian extremists).



Have You been honest you will be able to say what you want in one line.

You use long sentences and fancy words , only to hide the fact you are not telling to truth and have very little to say .

The truth is , Zelenskyy was democratically elected as president by a vast majority of Ukrainians , while his country was invaded by a dictator.

The fact that he happens to be Jewish is irrelevant here , except to you , who try to peddle silly conspiracy theories that suits your hateful agenda,


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Insurgency is a weaker opponent's way of weakening the resolve of a much powerful adversary.

Don't get personal; if you don't like my comments, you can put me in your ignore.



It seems my comments are getting into someone's skin. Sorry, they are not stopping any soon.
You have no clue how insurgencies work. Also, considering how you yourself have "gotten personal" using way worse language, don't expect me to be kind to you.

Finally, you comments are entertaining. They're actually amusing me, not getting under my skin. The amount of copium you're consuming is hilarious

So can incompetent people make a competent system? (which you admitted by saying below):
Let me clarify. The Russian army is incompetent. Russian scientists and researchers are pretty decent.

To answer your question though, yes. Even idiots are perfectly capable of making something amazing.
 
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