Russia poised to sign $10b gas pipeline deals this week

[BHarwana]

One question no one has raised here. What about Qatari LNG?

LNG is used for different purpose. This will basically revive CNG and will effect Oil imports.

 

[Path-Finder]

LNG is used for different purpose. This will basically revive CNG and will effect Oil imports.

. It will be pointless to go for LNG and CNG simultaneously.

 

[BHarwana]

It will be pointless to go for LNG and CNG simultaneously.

LNG is used in rural areas and places where there is no gas lines to supply gas to houses and this gas will include the normal gas that you use to get from SUI before. If you can understand what I am trying to say.

 

[MBT 3000]

great

 

[Path-Finder]

LNG is used in rural areas and places where there is no gas lines to supply gas to houses and this gas will include the normal gas that you use to get from SUI before. If you can understand what I am trying to say.

CNG can take care of it as its already established. introducing LNG require new infrastructure.

 

[BHarwana]

CNG can take care of it as its already established. introducing LNG require new infrastructure.

Even If we get this CNG and pipe line gas the LNG will still keep coming the LNG is used in totally different market.

 

[Maxpane]

wow great news

 

[niaz]

There appears to be some confusion in the mind of fellow members about natural gas, CNG & LNG.

Natural gas is mostly Methane (CH4) in gaseous phase; this is the normal state of Methane. CNG is also methane / natural gas under very high pressure. Standard pressure at the petrol station head could be as high as 4,000 psi.

LNG is gas in the liquefied form. If one cools natural gas to minus 160 Deg C, it turns to liquid. This also methane, hence no difference from natural gas that you get at home but in liquid form and therefore much denser & a lot cooler.

LNG is not normally used in liquid form. One needs to covert LNG into gas before it can be utilized. However, I have come across instances where LNG has been used directly as fuel in trucks, much the same way as CNG is.

Natural gas, after it has been gathered at the well and processed (cleansed of impurities) is transported by the pipelines at pressures in excess of 200 psi (as much as 1500 psi). There is a pressure drop during transportation by pipeline and there are compressor stations roughly located at 100 Km interval to keep the gas flowing.
This pressure is too high for the home or industrial use. Gate Stations are built along the way which reduce the pipeline diameter (from say 40 inch to 2 inch) and control the amount of gas flowing to the end consumer. Pressure at the household is between ¼ to ½ psi whereas for industrial consumers such as power stations it can be in excess of 100 psi.

Whereas natural gas, CNG & LNG are just the different states of Methane; LPG is a totally different beast. LPG is normally is mixture of propane (C3 H8) & butane (C4 H10).

LNG is transported across the sea as liquid, re-gassified at the discharge port and then pumped thru the normal gas distribution system. LNG, being liquid, will flow easily thru pipeline as well, however since it is at minus 160 C, a large pipeline will need a lot of lagging to keep temperature down.

The question here is the source and size /capacity of the proposed pipeline. Recently Qatar purchased a large stake in Rosneft.

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/n...ore-buy-11-3-billion-share-in-russias-rosneft

However Russia & Iran have also signed a $30-billion energy deal.

https://www.ft.com/content/141e6662-bf11-11e7-9836-b25f8adaa111

Hence LNG can come from Qatar or Iran or from both the countries. We do not know capacity of the proposed pipeline.

 

[TOPGUN]

Very good news indeed, much needed.

 

[Sinnerman108]

There appears to be some confusion in the mind of fellow members about natural gas, CNG & LNG.

Natural gas is mostly Methane (CH4) in gaseous phase; this is the normal state of Methane. CNG is also methane / natural gas under very high pressure. Standard pressure at the petrol station head could be as high as 4,000 psi.

LNG is gas is the liquefied form. If one cools natural gas to minus 160 Deg C, it turns to liquid. This also methane, hence no difference from natural gas that you get at home but in liquid form and therefore much denser & a lot cooler.

LNG is not normally used in liquid form. One needs to covert LNG into gas before it can be utilized. However, I have come across instances where LNG has been used directly as fuel in trucks, much the same way as CNG is.

Natural gas, after it has been gathered at the well and processed (cleansed of impurities) is transported by the pipelines at pressures in excess of 200 psi (as much as 1500 psi). There is a pressure drop during transportation by pipeline and there are compressor stations roughly located at 100 Km interval to keep the gas flowing.
This pressure is too high for the home or industrial use. Gate Stations are built along the way which reduce the pipeline diameter (from say 40 inch to 2 inch) and control the amount of gas flowing to the end consumer. Pressure at the household is between ¼ to ½ psi whereas for industrial consumers such as power stations it can be in excess of 100 psi.

Whereas natural gas, CNG & LNG are just the different states of Methane; LPG is a totally different beast. LPG is normally is mixture of propane (C3 H8) & butane (C4 H10).

LNG is transported across the sea as liquid, re-gassified at the discharge port and then pumped thru the normal gas distribution system. LNG, being liquid, will flow easily thru pipeline as well, however since it is at minus 160 C, a large pipeline will need a lot of lagging to keep temperature down.

The question here is the source and size /capacity of the proposed pipeline. Recently Qatar purchased a large stake in Rosneft.

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/n...ore-buy-11-3-billion-share-in-russias-rosneft

However Russia & Iran have also signed a $30-billion energy deal.

https://www.ft.com/content/141e6662-bf11-11e7-9836-b25f8adaa111

Hence LNG can come from Qatar or Iran or from both the countries. We do not know capacity of the proposed pipeline.

The pressure stations are effectively jet engines in reverse.
Turbine pressure

That is the real game,

then comes the metal and welding etc.

 

[Clutch]

This is great news if and only if it actually goes through and get implemented.

Too many times in pakistan we hear of such projects however due to politics, incompetence, or corruption ... nothing comes of it.

Fingers crossed.

 

[YeBeWarned]

10 Billion $ is a huge Investment by the Russians ..

 

[SMC]

Tagging @SunilM in case he hears anything negative on this, then we'll by the first to hear it from him.

 

[SunilM]

Hey hey... All the Very best if it happens. I am not the harbinger of negative news.

P.s. Even I am happy that Suzuki Mehran Production is FINALLY coming to an end.

 

[Trango Towers]

I feel more isolated each day.


Pakistan cannot be ignored