Russia denounces “the scale and aggressiveness” of the drills which “hardly contribute to security in the Black Sea region”.

[Titanium100]

Moscow warns US, UK against ‘tempting fate’
Russia on Monday denounced “the scale and aggressiveness” of the drills which “hardly contribute to security in the Black Sea region”.

The military exercises and Russian tests come amid soaring tensions between Moscow and Western powers.

The situation deteriorated further last week over a disputed Black Sea incident on June 23 between Russia and the United Kingdom.



Moscow said it had fired warning shots and dropped bombs in the path of a British warship, HMS Defender, to chase it out of Black Sea waters off the coast of Crimea, which Russia annexed from Ukraine in 2014.

Moscow considers Crimea Russian territory, but the peninsula is internationally recognised as part of Ukraine which wants it back.

The UK rejected Russia’s account of the incident, and has claimed its Royal Navy destroyer was making a routine journey through an internationally recognised travel lane and had remained in Ukrainian waters near Crimea.

Any shots fired were a preannounced Russian “gunnery exercise”, and no bombs were dropped, the UK said.

Later, Moscow warned NATO members the UK and the US against “tempting fate” by sending warships to the Black Sea, and said it would defend its borders using all possible means including military force.

he latest frictions add to a list of disputes between Moscow and Western powers.

The two sides are divided on a range of issues, including the situation in Ukraine, where government forces have battled Russian-backed separatists in the country’s war-torn east since 2014, Belarus, human rights, arms control, election interference, cyber-hacking and the role played by NATO in European affairs.

 

[That Guy]

Russia doesn't have the balls to sink a NATO ship. They didn't do anything when Turkey shot their fighter down.

 

[Titanium100]

Russia doesn't have the balls to sink a NATO ship. They didn't do anything when Turkey shot their fighter down.

It was human mistake and he was warned to return and somehow ended up in Turkish territory and remained there... Even the one who pulled the trigger was an error and caused diplomatic headache unecessarily

 

[hualushui]

Russia doesn't have the balls to sink a NATO ship. They didn't do anything when Turkey shot their fighter down.

 

[That Guy]

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Lightly armed research vessel taken hostage, what a great achievement by Iran.

You post that as if it proves me wrong.

 

[GumNaam]

Lightly armed research vessel taken hostage, what a great achievement by Iran.

You post that as if it proves me wrong.

weren't they navy seals?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

weren't they navy seals?

If it was navy seals it would have make headlines worldwide.

 

[That Guy]

weren't they navy seals?

Not as far as I can tell, they were sailors on a lightly armed vessel, who drifted into Iranian waters. Iran showed up with a heavily armed vessel, and quite frankly, the sailors would have been slaughtered if they tried to fight, simply because they were outgunned.

 

[hualushui]

Not as far as I can tell, they were sailors on a lightly armed vessel, who drifted into Iranian waters. Iran showed up with a heavily armed vessel, and quite frankly, the sailors would have been slaughtered if they tried to fight, simply because they were outgunned.

You are quibbling.
Why not revenge?

 

[Menthol]

Russia doesn't have the balls to sink a NATO ship. They didn't do anything when Turkey shot their fighter down.

Not really.

I think it's more because of sanity and compassion.

We all know the West is extremely aggressive but acts like they are the victim.

And we all know the story and the end of this huge, world-famous event.

We also know the story about the Turkey-Russia war and how it ended, but luckily it didn't happen, or not yet happened perhaps...


If it's not because of Putin, the world what we know will be ended.

The only world leader who still has sanity, but surrounded by mad people.

 

[That Guy]

Not really.

I think it's more because of sanity and compassion.

We all know the West is extremely aggressive but acts like they are the victim.

And we all know the story and the end of this huge, world-famous event.

We also know the story about the Turkey-Russia war and how it ended, but luckily it didn't happen, or not yet happened perhaps...


If it's not because of Putin, the world what we know will be ended.

The only world leader who still has sanity, but surrounded by mad people.

A) compassion doesn't have a place in geopolitics.any mention of it is propaganda.

B) Everyone is agressively, Russia and the US both. It's geopolitics, the Great Game. If the Russians weren't aggressive, they wouldn't have invaded Georgia and Ukraine.

You sound like a Putin worshipping cultists.

Absolutely everything except one single thing you said is merely propaganda.

You are quibbling.
Why not revenge?

No, you are. Iran literally has nothing to do with this, and not only that, the circumstances were different with that event.

As for revenge, I'm not American. What the hell are you talking about? Lay off the drugs to clear your mind.

 

[Menthol]

A) compassion doesn't have a place in geopolitics.any mention of it is propaganda.

B) Everyone is agressively, Russia and the US both. It's geopolitics, the Great Game. If the Russians weren't aggressive, they wouldn't have invaded Georgia and Ukraine.

You sound like a Putin worshipping cultists.

I just want to say that we humans are capable of being compassionate, tolerant, friendly, etc, if the world is demanding so.

But at the same time we are capable of being vicious, aggressive, unforgivable, etc, if the world is built on competition.

If being vicious, aggressive, unforgivable are the things that we should do, but what is the limit?

The formula of being a winner is to be more extreme and better than anyone else, and so people will try to be even more vicious and aggressive than their predecessor or previous winners, to become a new winner, so does the next generation from us.

But what is the limit? What is the red line that should not be crossed? The end of the world?

The problem is if the red line is almost being crossed, is everyone willing to give up? Admitting others as a winner? It's a psychological problem.


I think, how advanced our military technology, it's still nothing compared with nuclear weapons.

A cornered rat can do a suicidal thing. If I should die, so does everyone, kind of mentality.

If the world is not ended today, it will tomorrow or another tomorrow, but it will, because each generation is trying to outperform the older generation until it reaches the red line, but never give up for the sake of competition.