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RSS outfit wants Manusmriti reworked
According to Chand, fresh research should be commissioned on Manusmriti.

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Union Minister of Culture Mahesh Sharma (File Photo)
THE RSS’s cultural affiliate Sanskar Bharti is planning to tie up with the Union Ministry of Culture to promote activities that will “correct the lies that people have been fed” about ancient Hindu scriptures being “anti-Dalit and anti-woman”, starting with the Manusmriti, a senior office-bearer of the organisation told The Sunday Express.

According to Amir Chand, joint organisational secretary, Sanskar Bharti, the Sangh outfit believes that people should be educated about “the acceptance that our scriptures teach” through performing arts and awareness activities, such as seminars.

“We are debating the removal of portions from the Manusmriti, which are anti-Dalit and anti-woman and often quoted in arguments against Hindu scriptures,” he said.

“There are some references in Manusmriti where some objectionable things have been mentioned. It should be deleted. We do not support them. We have to see Manusmriti in today’s context. We will suggest to the government that they look into this,” said Chand.

When contacted by The Sunday Express, Union Minister of Culture, Mahesh Sharma said, “We have not received any such proposal. We will take cognizance once we get it.”

Manusmriti is a compilation of rules and regulations prepared by Manu meant for the conduct of a varnashrama, or a social system based on caste. Scholars date the codification by Manu to 200 CE, though claims are made for a much earlier date.

According to Chand, fresh research should be commissioned on Manusmriti.

“We believe that Manu was born 8,000 years ago… There are several versions of Manusmriti, which have been written 5,500 years after his birth and thus the credentials of the authors and their writings need to be questioned. It is a matter of research, someone needs to look in to this,” he said.

Chand said that the scriptures never “promoted anti-Dalit or anti-woman sentiments” and described such interpretations as “propaganda” and the result of “ignorance”.

“Many did not know that Rigveda has 47 richayen (hymns) written by a woman. How can such vedas be anti-woman? It is ignorance about our own scriptures that lead many to criticise them. I can understand that Manusmriti has something wrong, but that can be removed after thorough research into who wrote it,” said Chand.


http://indianexpress.com/article/in...orked-mahesh-sharma-culture-ministry-4654823/
 
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I have no idea what is in Manu or Vedas.. Never touched an religious book till now... But its good if they are modified in today's context.. It just shows Santana Dharmam is adaptable to the modern world, and we are not stupidly rigid like some people who quote the books....
 
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A very good step. If anything is not in sync with the modern thinking then it is OK to change with the times. If it means different interpretations, additions or deletions then so be it.

The ironical thing is vast majority of Hindus do not go by Manusmriti. mostly it is the leftists who like to point out the parts from Manusmiriti to show down Hindus.

I myself had not known that there existed a book called Manusmiriti till I began to see leftists propogandists try to diss Hindus because of the book.

Dont believe me

Here is a google trends comparison of Bhagwad Geeta, Mahabharata, Ramayana, and Manusmriti

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As you can see Manusmiriti is flat lining at 0 compared to other 3 which are approximately equal. The spike in mahabharat during 2014 is because of the star plus serial
 
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I have no idea what is in Manu or Vedas.. Never touched an religious book till now... But its good if they are modified in today's context.. It just shows Santana Dharmam is adaptable to the modern world, and we are not stupidly rigid like some people who quote the books....
Are you being passive aggressive here? Do read what Manu has stated and what were those laws. Here's a brief introduction for you

http://www.indialawjournal.org/archives/volume8/issue-1/article10.html

And was this "stupidly rigid like some people who quote the books" an attempt at drawing some solace?
 
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THE RSS’s cultural affiliate Sanskar Bharti is planning to tie up with the Union Ministry of Culture to promote activities that will “correct the lies that people have been fed” about ancient Hindu scriptures being “anti-Dalit and anti-woman”, starting with the Manusmriti, a senior office-bearer of the organisation told The Sunday Express.

I would delighted to be convinced that Manusmriti is not actually anti dalit and anti woman. If RSS wants to debunk this commonly held belief then we should welcome it :tup:
 
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A very good step. If anything is not in sync with the modern thinking then it is OK to change with the times. If it means different interpretations, additions or deletions then so be it.

The ironical thing is vast majority of Hindus do not go by Manusmriti. mostly it is the leftists who like to point out the parts from Manusmiriti to show down Hindus.

I myself had not known that there existed a book called Manusmiriti till I began to see leftists propogandists try to diss Hindus because of the book.

Dont believe me

Here is a google trends comparison of Bhagwad Geeta, Mahabharata, Ramayana, and Manusmriti

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As you can see Manusmiriti is flat lining at 0 compared to other 3 which are approximately equal. The spike in mahabharat during 2014 is because of the star plus serial
So why do you need some "8000 years" old laws for today? What about Uniform civil code? May be you should read more history. Manu based laws were the laws predominantly followed by most Hindus in British India and even Brits used it for Hindu religious matters before Hindu code bill came in to existence. Read out the following

"In pre-colonial India, the Manusmriti was the most authoritarian and important rule book for Hindu laws."

Manu-smriti | Hindu law | Britannica.com
http://www.indialawjournal.org/archives/volume8/issue-1/article10.html


I would delighted to be convinced that Manusmriti is not actually anti dalit and anti woman. If RSS wants to debunk this commonly held belief then we should welcome it :tup:
Another attempt of creating pseudo history:lol:

So tell me if it was not actually anti-Dalit or anti-women then why Dalits and women had to face discrimination then. Why was their a need for Hindu code bill or reservations?
 
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At it's core RSS is Manuvaadi. They won't dare to touch it. RSS is all about re-establishing Vedic Hindutva, the rule of Brahmins and some high castes of whole Aryavarta (Akhand Bharat). Thus caste system to prevent miscegenation is supported. The dalits and scheduled class Hindus are used as foot soldiers for this purpose which ultimately is about enslaving them. What RSS wants in India is something similar to minority White Europeans ruling majority Negro South Africa. - A politically non-correct answer, the plain truth.
http://www.stopfundinghate.org/resources/rssprimer.htm
 
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So why do you need some "8000 years" old laws for today? What about Uniform civil code? May be you should read more history. Manu based laws were the laws predominantly followed by most Hindus in British India and even Brits used it for Hindu religious matters before Hindu code bill came in to existence. Read out the following

"In pre-colonial India, the Manusmriti was the most authoritarian and important rule book for Hindu laws."

Manu-smriti | Hindu law | Britannica.com
http://www.indialawjournal.org/archives/volume8/issue-1/article10.html



Another attempt of creating pseudo history:lol:

So tell me if it was not actually anti-Dalit or anti-women then why Dalits and women had to face discrimination then. Why was their a need for Hindu code bill or reservations?

As said I thought all this time that Manusmriti is anti dalit and anti woman. If RSS says it is not, and wants to change that with solid proof then may be convinced.
 
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At it's core RSS is Manuvaadi. They won't dare to touch it. RSS is all about re-establishing Vedic Hindutva, the rule of Brahmins and some high castes of whole Aryavarta (Akhand Bharat). Thus caste system to prevent miscegenation is supported. The dalits and scheduled class Hindus are used as foot soldiers for this purpose which ultimately is about enslaving them. What RSS wants in India is something similar to minority White Europeans ruling majority Negro South Africa. - A politically non-correct answer, the plain truth.
http://www.stopfundinghate.org/resources/rssprimer.htm
And a few of the Dalits are understanding that...

Ground Zero Saharanpur: We were Hindus only till polling, Dalits complain

Source: https://in.news.yahoo.com/ground-zero-saharanpur-were-hindus-172100346.html
 
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These guys should Leave the ancient scripture in their original form, we have constitution. Any attempt to corrupt the scriptures will only create more confusions.
 
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And a few of the Dalits are understanding that...

Ground Zero Saharanpur: We were Hindus only till polling, Dalits complain
Ambedkar for sure knew about the agendas of Hindu Maha Sabha/RSS. We see frequent conversion of scheduled class/OBCs in Maharashtra and some other states to Buddhism in protest of the RSS high caste hegemony.
 
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As said I thought all this time that Manusmriti is anti dalit and anti woman. If RSS says it is not, and wants to change that with solid proof then may be convinced.
So if RSS says it is not, you "may" be convinced:lol:

So what is that solid proof going to be? "Muslim and christian invaders tampered it" could be possibly a solid proof. No?:D
 
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I hold Manusmriti as part of Shastras. But that does not mean that I swear by every verse that is printed in the book described as Manusmriti. There are so many contradictions in the printed volume that, if you accept one part, you are bound to reject those parts that are wholly inconsistent with it. (...) Nobody is in possession of the original text.

— Mahatma Gandhi
 
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So why do you need some "8000 years" old laws for today? What about Uniform civil code? May be you should read more history. Manu based laws were the laws predominantly followed by most Hindus in British India and even Brits used it for Hindu religious matters before Hindu code bill came in to existence. Read out the following

"In pre-colonial India, the Manusmriti was the most authoritarian and important rule book for Hindu laws."

Manu-smriti | Hindu law | Britannica.com
http://www.indialawjournal.org/archives/volume8/issue-1/article10.html



Another attempt of creating pseudo history:lol:

So tell me if it was not actually anti-Dalit or anti-women then why Dalits and women had to face discrimination then. Why was their a need for Hindu code bill or reservations?
Wow where does it say that 8000 year old laws are being used in 2017. They were used in Pre Colonial India and by the british. All these were abolished in 1950's Today we are in 2017.

I think you tried to open this thread to try and rile Hindutvawaadis and Sanghis. But you inadvertently paid them compliments.

1 You thought we may be angry with books being changed but we are actually very happy. This shows we are pragmatic and progressive unlike others who claim that their books are unchangeble till the end of time and continue to insist on practices written 1400 years ago

2 You thought Modern Hindus follow Manusmiriti then you yourself gave links that these practices were pre colonial and were all changed post independence. Moreover I proved that no one currently follows the Manusmiriti

So on behalf of all Sanghis and Hindutvawaadis

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@ranjeet @Nilgiri @911 @SarthakGanguly @IndoCarib
 
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