RSS converts 200 Indian Muslims into Hinduism.

[Darmashkian]

This stems from the view that Muslims are outsiders and do not belong to India and are a foreign religion as are Christians. The bias against them stems from this fact.

I wonder if anyone has noticed whether these people really want to convert or they are forced to do so or are forced in another way, by the payment of money. Surprisingly Hindutvadi fanatics claim that Muslims and Christians use the same techniques to convert Hindus, by paying money.

Now they are doing exactly the same thing. I believe there should be consensus that Muslims and Christians exist and are free to worship their God as they see fit. Instead RSS is in a position to convert thousands who only convert because of the money.

Saffron terrorism is a reality which we must come to accept. I hope Indian government takes action against them.

Kamarade
I will not comment on the rest of your post.
But about the bolded part, the part related to CHristians is right.The muslims don't pay & ask people to convert to their religion.

In the state of my origin,Andhra Pradesh. The evangelist missionaries have been aggressively campaigning & asking people to convert to CHristianity(Hindu & Muslim). They have done this by giving freebies, money , education, fooling the ignorant & the poor, coercing the weak etc.

And the local govt. also sided with the missionaries. Thus resulting in them having a free run.... atleast till May of 2014.
I have even heard tales of the evangelists inciting people(mostly converts) in Christian majority villages to force/threaten non-Christians to convert to Christianity. [My muslim friend from AP told me about this]

And if anyone dared to oppose the missionaries & try to bring such matters in public,"measures" were taken to threaten/stop him.

THere is a lot,lot more related to this that I can't post here(due to lack of time & lack of reliability). But after verification I will try.

 

[ranjeet]

This is NOT within the ambit of law. This is not propagation by free will, this is conversion by inducement. They aren't any different from those chrstian missionaries who use inducements. I know the whole world and media are up in arms against BJP. It's getting boring now. After Modi came in, things have become easier for them, that's the truth. Why wouldn't it? That is exactly the ideology he represents. Why would RSS affiliates not have more advantage? He comes from RSS and no he really IS an RSS man.

how many times congress raised the issue of christian missionaries in the parliament like they want to do with this piece of news? Why special dislike towards hindus?

 

[greatone]

I am happy at this development, even though I am a borderline atheist, because social uniformity is always good for stability(and hence economic growth, strategic outreach) of a country.

I would have happily become a Buddhist/Christian/Jew/Muslim if that were the prevalent religion in India.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

how many times congress raised the issue of christian missionaries in the parliament like they want to do with this piece of news? Why special dislike towards hindus?

If congress didn't then BLAME them, I never asked you to not complain. But the solution is to use the same tactics to convert muslims into Hindus?

And lemme tell you- YES, Christian missionaries trying to convert more Christians through inducements IS a lot less dangerous than Hindus doing the same thing. Whatever they try it will have little impact, but once you let this idea become mainstream among the majority, it becomes an overwhelming problem that cannot be solved. If Hindus in pak decided to get more converts, it'll never become a serious issue, but once the idea became mainstram among muslims, then it let loose a wave of communal upheavals that has burned them for decades. And the BJP wants to do this only for securing their power base- so our society has to be shattered for their power lust? Lemme ask you- Modi stabilized the economy, but then he has also let loose a wave of crony capitalism unseen in India's history- the most recent case is Adanis getting Billion $ loans from PSU banks. We need to spend time on hindu conversions and gita nation next etc. so that we are distracted away from these grave crimes ?

 

[itachiii]

rss has to increase their presence in a.p.. there are large no. of missionaries tat are converting poor hindus to christianity here...

 

[ranjeet]

If congress didn't then BLAME them, I never asked you to not complain. But the solution is to use the same tactics to convert muslims into Hindus?

And lemme tell you- YES, Christian missionaries trying to convert more Christians through inducements IS a lot less dangerous than Hindus doing the same thing. Whatever they try it will have little impact, but once you let this idea become mainstream among the majority, it becomes an overwhelming problem that cannot be solved. If Hindus in pak decided to get more converts, it'll never become a serious issue, but once the idea became mainstram among muslims, then it let loose a wave of communal upheavals that has burned them for decades. And the BJP wants to do this only for securing their power base- so our society has to be shattered for their power lust? Lemme ask you- Modi stabilized the economy, but then he has also let loose a wave of crony capitalism unseen in India's history- the most recent case is Adanis getting Billion $ loans from PSU banks. We need to spend time on hindu conversions and gita nation next etc. so that we are distracted away from these grave crimes ?

whats good for the goose must be good for the gander?
Pakistan is an Islamic country not Secular like India, apples and oranges. Courts are open for those who feel they are being forced into hinduism unless you think they don't have a chance to get justice.

 

[Prometheus]

so what RSS started missionary works .........Christians and muslims also do it

 

[Guynextdoor2]

whats good for the goose must be good for the gander?
Pakistan is an Islamic country not Secular like India, apples and oranges. Courts are open for those who feel they are being forced into hinduism unless you think they don't have a chance to get justice.

For hell's sake PAKISTAN IS A MESS. Why the hell do Indian right wingers use the most pathetic examples for justifying their actions? Pak is poor, it's economy is in the dumps, its society is violently turbulent. They are not our goose or gander. If you want 'true glory' look at Scandinavia or the US or Australia or china or korea or Japan. Why do you have to give the most pathetic exmaples?

 

[anonymus]

For hell's sake PAKISTAN IS A MESS. Why the hell do Indian right wingers use the most pathetic examples for justifying their actions? Pak is poor, it's economy is in the dumps, its society is violently turbulent. They are not our goose or gander. If you want 'true glory' look at Scandinavia or the US or Australia or china or korea or Japan. Why do you have to give the most pathetic exmaples?

I think that there is no ban on conversion to Christianity in US,Scandinavia,Australia,Korea ,or Japan. Instead US and Korea are stormtroopers of evangelism.

 

[ranjeet]

so what RSS started missionary works .........Christians and muslims also do it

Although it's a stupid thing to do, but a person who couldn't find peace in one religion will hardly find in a different one. It's just a d!ck measuring contest but the way people are reacting to this is surprising. Conversion through inducement wasn't a big issue before hindus started doing it.

For hell's sake PAKISTAN IS A MESS. Why the hell do Indian right wingers use the most pathetic examples for justifying their actions? Pak is poor, it's economy is in the dumps, its society is violently turbulent. They are not our goose or gander. If you want 'true glory' look at Scandinavia or the US or Australia or china or korea or Japan. Why do you have to give the most pathetic exmaples?

You are the one who brought in Pakistan not me. Should have mentioned those countries earlier.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

This stems from the view that Muslims are outsiders and do not belong to India and are a foreign religion as are Christians. The bias against them stems from this fact.

I wonder if anyone has noticed whether these people really want to convert or they are forced to do so or are forced in another way, by the payment of money. Surprisingly Hindutvadi fanatics claim that Muslims and Christians use the same techniques to convert Hindus, by paying money.

Now they are doing exactly the same thing. I believe there should be consensus that Muslims and Christians exist and are free to worship their God as they see fit. Instead RSS is in a position to convert thousands who only convert because of the money.

Saffron terrorism is a reality which we must come to accept. I hope Indian government takes action against them.

Your post is typical doublespeak. Why do you condemn "Saffron terrorism" by conversions or reversions whilst remaining silent on "Islamic terrorism" or "Christian terrorism" by conversions even though you clearly seem to accept that the conversions for money or whatever exists in all religions ? Did you type your post in a hurry perhaps and omit to mention that you hope that the GoI takes action against all these conversions by bad faith inducement or was the jibe targeted particularly at Hinduism ("Saffron terrorism") ?

There is no twisting or disingenuity on my part. By your own claim, all those who married out of Hinduism in your family did so on the condition of raising their kids non-Hindus. Why would your family accept this condition if they were so secular.

Where in Indian law does it specify that an adult who marries another adult has to obtain his/her family's blessings and accept any pre-conditions set by his/her family to such marriage? If my family are educated enough to see the wider picture when it comes to religion then perhaps Indians such as yourself should emulate that mentality instead of being distressed by it. We aren't ISIS or Boko Haraam or some remote Pakistani family in some village in Pakistan who look at everything which doesn't conform with our religious views as being satanic or demonic or impure. We welcome the mingling or cultures and religions and are eager to co-exist with all. Go read your country's constitution to understand what I mean

 

[utraash]

if yr pursuit for yr own country's defence is real and pure then u must take down these radicals.

What radicalism you saw here ? Did they get converted at gun point ? Were they lured fore conversion?
Though I have no problem in conversion in either side until they are forced or lured .....
RSS is not organization which has asked to Hindus to join the Group to Establish Hindu version of Caliphate.....

Yes I will be on streets if RSS pursue the policy like ISIS......

 

[takeiteasy]

RSS is a organized religion. they are converting hindus and others to their fold. this religion is more like hitler's nazism. It is in the interest of the country, to be prevented from taking over by slaves of RSS and sangh parivar. In def.pk, you can see how true was our(anti-sanghi) observations coming true. RSS if given access to army and other critical areas will try to do what invaders(whom RSS copies) did - convert to RSS religion or be prepared for genocide.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Although it's a stupid thing to do, but a person who couldn't find peace in one religion will hardly find in a different one. It's just a d!ck measuring contest but the way people are reacting to this is surprising. Conversion through inducement wasn't a big issue before hindus started doing it.


You are the one who brought in Pakistan not me. Should have mentioned those countries earlier.

I brought Paksitan as an example of what happens when you let these ideas become mainstream. I'd like us to never head in that direction. If 'secularism' the fundamental for all those other countries we can use as benchmarks, then it really is the ideology for us.

I think that there is no ban on conversion to Christianity in US,Scandinavia,Australia,Korea ,or Japan. Instead US and Korea are stormtroopers of evangelism.

There is no ban on conversion to any religion in india too, but any conversion through coercion or inducements are dealt with very severely in those countries.

 

[utraash]

wow 200 they even outdid the Mullahs in Sindh






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