Rosneft, PetroVietnam to establish joint ventures to prospect for oil in Pechora Sea

[mike2000]

compare that to Singapore one of the richest countries on earth. And whats the problem of selling them weapons? Is it better they buy expensive western weapons instead cheaper russian? And second they get shares in russian oil fields? Where is it exploiting of vietnam? Does america give shares to petro vietnam in texas? hypocrite

LOOOL Singapore isnt neutral bro. Its allied with the U.S for your information. Though Singapore has deep economic relations with China and has carried out joint military drills together. But Singapore is still tilted more towards the U.S. Singapore is even considering a US request to boost its regional presence by basing up to four new Littoral Combat Ships in the city-state. In fact, US ships and aircraft have had access to the Paya Lebar Air Base and Changi Naval Base since 1990.

As for your point of nothing wrong in selling Vietnam more weapon, i can all but laugh, I thought you were 'allies/partners' with China? Instead of trying to negotiate/help in peacefully solving the issues between little vietnam and big China, you just resort in selling more weapons to fan the flames even more. Is that how 'allies/partners' behave?. In that case it will be good if China can supply the Ukrainian government with some finacial and military aid as well, since there will be nothing wrong in that. To all chinese members here, you have to learn to play geo poltics well, just like Putins Russia does with you and Vietnam.

And last but not least, i have never insulted/made personal attacks against anyone on here, i expect others to the same, we can have discussion/arguments/agree to disagree while being polite/respectful. So you should take back your 'hypocrite insult' bro.

 

[senheiser]

LOOOL Singapore isnt neutral bro. Its allied with the U.S for your information. Though Singapore has deep economic relations with China and has carried out joint military drills together. But Singapore is still tilted more towards the U.S. Singapore is even considering a US request to boost its regional presence by basing up to four new Littoral Combat Ships in the city-state. In fact, US ships and aircraft have had access to the Paya Lebar Air Base and Changi Naval Base since 1990.

As for your point of nothing wrong in selling Vietnam more weapon, i can all but laugh, I thought you were 'allies/partners' with China? Instead of trying to negotiate/help in peacefully solving the issues between little vietnam and big China, you just resort in selling more weapons to fan the flames even more. Is that how 'allies/partners' behave?. In that case it will be good if China can supply the Ukrainian government with some finacial and military aid as well, since there will be nothing wrong in that. To all chinese members here, you have to learn to play geo poltics well, just like Putins Russia does with you and Vietnam.

And last but not least, i have never insulted/made personal attacks against anyone on here, i expect others to the same, we can have discussion/arguments/agree to disagree while being polite/respectful. So you should take back your 'hypocrite insult' bro.

if russia wont do it america would, vietnam and china wont go to war its just sable ratting but in case of war Russia wouldnt supply any of the both. Singapore is majority Chinese you talk BS again and ad unnecessary smileys. no one cares

 

[Viet]

The U.S/Japan will be a better Big brother for Vietnam. Russia won't support you against China. They have an even more important/global relationship with China. Better for Vietnam to forget the cold war romance with the soviets and join the U.S like Philippines and Japan.

doing business with russia is good enough.

 

[mike2000]

if russia wont do it america would, vietnam and china wont go to war its just sable ratting but in case of war Russia wouldnt supply any of the both. Singapore is majority Chinese you talk BS again and ad unnecessary smileys. no one cares

loool Majority Chinese doesnt means it has to be allied with China, last time i checked Taiwan/ROC is majority Chinese(even more chinese than mainland China itself) .But it isnt allied with China. So majority etchnic group doesnt means much. Geo poltics is different from race.
Who said Russia wont supply Vietnam with weapons if it went to war with China? they wont do it openly obviously(since they need china more for their global quest against the U.S/west) but they will do it covertly. They will sell as much weapons to Vietnam as they can, and boost their arms industries even more.

You say if Russia doesnt supply arms to Vietnam, the U.S will.lol In that case China should supply weapons to Ukraine government as well, since if it doesnt the west/U.S will keep doing it. See? two can play the game as well. I just find it surprising the Chinese are still very reserved in their foreign policy despite their big size, i do understand though, they are smart and know they have time on their side. In 10- 15 years from now i think thinks will change. Until then keep enjoying your Tango between Vietnam and China and make as much buck as you can from poor Vietnam.

 

[mike2000]

doing business with russia is good enough.

lool Ok you can stay with Russia then bro, but that will mean you will have to stop asking/demanding U.S help when you have issues with China. Last time you did with the oil rig, Vietnam was the one running to daddy U.S for support after the oil rig incident. Your government has even been pleading with the U.S to remove its arms exports ban against Vietnam now for quite a long time(since they know U.S weapons are way better than Soviet era ones Russia provides you). This shows just how Vietnams government knows the U.S will be a better partner than Russia.Time will tell.

 

[NiceGuy]

loool Majority Chinese doesnt means it has to be allied with China, last time i checked Taiwan/ROC is majority Chinese(even more chinese than mainland China itself) .But it isnt allied with China. So majority etchnic group doesnt means much. Geo poltics is different from race.
Who said Russia wont supply Vietnam with weapons if it went to war with China? they wont do it openly obviously(since they need china more for their global quest against the U.S/west) but they will do it covertly. They will sell as much weapons to Vietnam as they can, and boost their arms industries even more.

You say if Russia doesnt supply arms to Vietnam, the U.S will.lol In that case China should supply weapons to Ukraine government as well, since if it doesnt the west/U.S will keep doing it. See? two can play the game as well. I just find it surprising the Chinese are still very reserved in their foreign policy despite their big size, i do understand though, they are smart and know they have time on their side. In 10- 15 years from now i think thinks will change. Until then keep enjoying your Tango between Vietnam and China and make as much buck as you can from poor Vietnam.

U seem dont understand the weapon deal btween Russia-VN. Russia sell weapon on Credit to VN, and we will pay them by rice, milk, fish etc coz we r poor and dont have hard cash to pay. So we both earn mutual benefit from the deal

VN have a very important location in the region, if Russia set up a base in Cam Ranh again, then Russia can control the whole ASEAN region plus controlling China-SK-JP- Guam's ship lane. So, if US dont want to lose Guam, lose their allies SK-JP-TW to Russia-China, they need to pay a very high price if they want VN to be their friend

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

china will not bully us for ever, china will knee before us master like china did in the past.

When did China have ever kneed to the jungle?

loool Majority Chinese doesnt means it has to be allied with China, last time i checked Taiwan/ROC is majority Chinese(even more chinese than mainland China itself) .But it isnt allied with China. So majority etchnic group doesnt means much. Geo poltics is different from race.
Who said Russia wont supply Vietnam with weapons if it went to war with China? they wont do it openly obviously(since they need china more for their global quest against the U.S/west) but they will do it covertly. They will sell as much weapons to Vietnam as they can, and boost their arms industries even more.

You say if Russia doesnt supply arms to Vietnam, the U.S will.lol In that case China should supply weapons to Ukraine government as well, since if it doesnt the west/U.S will keep doing it. See? two can play the game as well. I just find it surprising the Chinese are still very reserved in their foreign policy despite their big size, i do understand though, they are smart and know they have time on their side. In 10- 15 years from now i think thinks will change. Until then keep enjoying your Tango between Vietnam and China and make as much buck as you can from poor Vietnam.

The Mainland Chinese represent the mainstream Chinese, to say that Taiwanese is more Chinese than the Mainland Chinese is like saying the western Ukrainians are more "Russian" than Russians themselves.

 

[Rechoice]

Ahahahaahhahahaah, are u kidding bro? Last time i checked/red, China colonised Vietnam for over 1000 years(the longest i have read in History), that makes Japan 50 years colonization of korea look like a child play(which the koreans still havent recovered from). And to make things worse, China will be even powerful/undisputed power in Asia in a decade or two from now. By this time , no country in the region will even come close to them in all fields believe me. So if anything it will better if things stay as they are now, since with each passing year it will be getting stronger and stronger.
So you are left with two options:
1. Forget about soviet Russia and Join the world's only superpower the U.S like Japan and philippines did or
2. make peace/negotiate with China, knowing you might have to make concessions or not.
So its up to Vietnam really.

Vietnamese kicked chinese assz and they ran back to China 1000 year ago bro.

When did China have ever kneed to the jungle?

My typing mistake, "us" mean " US ", or United States.

China kneed before USA to invite Nixon take a relax visit in Peking 1972.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Vietnamese kicked chinese assz and they ran back to China 1000 year ago bro.



My typing mistake, "us" mean " US ", or United States.

China kneed before USA to invite Nixon take a relax visit in Peking 1972.

More imagination from the jungle, and don't forget that you have kneeled before us for 1000 years.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

When did China have ever kneed to the jungle?



The Mainland Chinese represent the mainstream Chinese, to say that Taiwanese is more Chinese than the Mainland Chinese is like saying the western Ukrainians are more "Russian" than Russians themselves.

A Canadian view is irrelevant. Canadian do not represent anything remotely China or Chinese. Get lost.

 

[Rechoice]

More imagination from the jungle, and don't forget that you have kneeled before us for 1000 years.

we kicked your *** and you ran back over 1000 year, china is big boy but you kneed before Mongolian, Manchurian until 1911, Japanese 1945, white man UK 1999.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

A Canadian view is irrelevant. Canadian do not represent anything remotely China or Chinese. Get lost.

I was born with the Mainland culture, which you have nothing on me.

The Mainlanders will not see me as an alien, but you guys will.

 

[maniac@666]

lool Ok you can stay with Russia then bro, but that will mean you will have to stop asking/demanding U.S help when you have issues with China. Last time you did with the oil rig, Vietnam was the one running to daddy U.S for support after the oil rig incident. Your government has even been pleading with the U.S to remove its arms exports ban against Vietnam now for quite a long time(since they know U.S weapons are way better than Soviet era ones Russia provides you). This shows just how Vietnams government knows the U.S will be a better partner than Russia.Time will tell.

is it to me or anyone other also?why you sound more chinese than a british.what problem does uk has with vietnam,i think it's none.if west has problem with vietnam having relations with russia or buying weapons from them then they should have shown some concern but they are not.infact they are happy vietnam being armed and confronting china.china has no beef with ukraine in fact they have very cordial relations,a lot of tech have been transferred from ukraine to china,they have helped china in many spheres and a lot.then why is china not supplying weapons to ukraine?who is stopping them?the answer is they are against ukraine joining nato and EU.you know if ukraine joins EU they won't be able to sell military stuff to china as EU has arms embargo on china.china uses a lot of their stuff and produce them under license(may be i not be fully correct).as much as russia needs china,china also needs support of russia equally.these two powerfull countries are defying USA.russia or china alone cannot tackle USA at present it will take decades but both of them together the situation changes drastically.why you are implying that russia should'nt supply weapons to countries who are having problem with china,does china guarantees it will buy all the weapons it exports to countries china having problem with?what will happen to their defence industries,they are just back on track after the fall of soviet union.are you saying that saying that china should firmly dictate russia's foreingn policy and whom to supply weapons or not because they are presently under sanctions,it doesn't work like that,it's a two way street.russians would take on chin rather losing their dignity.you include china in threads where it is irrelevent or unnecessary.if india is buying weapons from japan then your ridiculing russians weapons saying look russia even india is not interested in your junks then how can you win war with japan,is there any logic in that,may be you dont know india still buys majority of weapons from russia.you are not only ridiculing but also provoking other members.in one other thread you were in agreement in germany boosting their military capabilities because they have sincerely apologized for their actions of past and there are no problems now for them being arming but japan should'nt because because they have not appologized.if nobody is objecting when china is arming upto the teeth for supposedly taking on USA or south korea against north korea,china and supposedly japan, then why against japan only.more countries are welcoming their decision rather than a few who are against, on reversing and lifting their ban on sale of weapons to friendly countries and helping their allies and support them even outside japanese territories when in needs and take more active role.bangladesh has even withdrawn their name from unsc in support of japan.many countries are queuing up for their weapons and honestly say that if russian weapons are junk then what are chinese weapons?why you look more of like spokesperson for china rather than UK.you have more to say about china and much less about your own country.you look more concerned for them rather than yourself.i am on many international forums but i haven't seen a Brit supporting and defending china so much. i don't know if any other members feels same like me or not and please don't give that crap that you are fair and unbiased and speak through your heart thingy and bla bla bla maybe others believe but i don't take that.there are lots of things like the way you write etc which leads me to believe you are either a false flagger or not of british origin.i think you are just like our brothers abingdonboy or qamar1990.i rarely post here but do lurk around and post whenever i do feel necessary.

 

[NiceGuy]

.you have more to say about china and much less about your own country.you look more concerned for them rather than yourself.i am on many international forums but i haven't seen a Brit supporting and defending china so much. i don't know if any other members feels same like me or not and please don't give that crap that you are fair and unbiased and speak through your heart thingy and bla bla bla maybe others believe but i don't take that.there are lots of things like the way you write etc which leads me to believe you are either a false flagger or not of british origin.i think you are just like our brothers abingdonboy or qamar1990.i rarely post here but do lurk around and post whenever i do feel necessary.

Bro, Hes maybe a Chinese living in UK, thats why he defends China.

 

[xunzi]

If you explore oil near anywhere close to our island territorial water, we will sink your ship.