Role of pro-Pakistan Jamaat in focus as Bangladesh heads to polls on Dec 30

[Bengal71]

And that's precisely why Jamaat can't be taken seriously by orthodox Sunnis. They're in the fanfiction category along with people who talk about an "Islam-Orthodox Christianity or Russia Alliance" and an "Islam-China Alliance". They are trying to build a fantasy alliance which ignores the reality of history.

True. Although a shia-sunni alliance is unlikely, I am not entirely sure what will happen when all Muslims in the world will have their back up against the wall.

 

[Fortress]

True. Although a shia-sunni alliance is unlikely, I am not entirely sure what will happen when all Muslims in the world will have their back up against the wall.

Oh it's been happening and will continue to happen. For some it started 500 years ago, for others it started 100 years ago.

But the Ummah will experience destruction and persecution. Muslim society as we know it will collapse, it's just a matter of whether it happens 100 years from now or 250 years from now till it reaches breaking point. But the decay is happening as we speak. It is our punishment, for we deserve it, just like what happened during the Mongol invasion.

 

[Riyad]

what the hell is that.. Occupation forces?

From the beginning West Pakistanis were foreign people to Bangladeshi people. Culturally Bangladeshis are closer to Indians with only religion makes a bit difference here and there.

It was a blunder by British Raj to merge East Bengal with Pakistan in 1947 on religious ground. In essence Bangladeshis are replica of Indians with absolutely no difference with 90% of Indians. Except for Punjabis and Kashmiris all other Indians can be easily mistaken for Bangladeshis and vise versa. So either East Bengal should have been a separate state of India with Islam as major religion or making whole Bengal (West Bengal included) as a separate country.

 

[New World]

It was a blunder by British Raj to merge East Bengal with Pakistan in 1947 on religious ground.

wasn't it people from East Bengal that wanted for separate land for Muslims?
wasn't majority of Muslim league leaders were Bengali?

i think you should have to read how bengal was main main driving force for the creation of separate muslim land called as Pakistan in 1947..

 

[UKBengali]

Oh it's been happening and will continue to happen. For some it started 500 years ago, for others it started 100 years ago.

But the Ummah will experience destruction and persecution. Muslim society as we know it will collapse, it's just a matter of whether it happens 100 years from now or 250 years from now till it reaches breaking point. But the decay is happening as we speak. It is our punishment, for we deserve it, just like what happened during the Mongol invasion.

Dude, you post a Palestinian flag?
If you are Palestinian Arab, then do not assume that the state of Arabs is any indication of Muslims in general.

Most of the non-Arab Muslim world are on the road to economic and military strength.

 

[Al-zakir]

BD is by India, of India, for India...

We are neither Hindu nor Muslim - BD ruling party ex general secretary, Asharaful Islam. He is the son of Nazrul Islam, 1st President of BD, who remained loyal to Mujib till he was killed in 1975

What has Islam given to the humanity that it has something to give to BD? - BD’s finance minister Abdul Muhit, the perfect example of a corrupt to the core elite in BD

For Goddess Durga came to the world this year riding on an elephant we have had a good harvest - BD PM Hasina

Definitely, BD is diametrically opposite to what Pak stands for!!! It was occupied by the Muslim army to be freed the Mushrik Army....

Unfortunately, what you said is true. In my opinion, about 30% bd populations Hindu lover and they won’t mind if India annex Bd. Some of these Hindu lovers can be found in this forum.

We agree.

So, you rather be subject then owner. What a irony!!!!

 

[Fortress]

Dude, you post a Palestinian flag?
If you are Palestinian Arab, then do not assume that the state of Arabs is any indication of Muslims in general.

Most of the non-Arab Muslim world are on the road to economic and military strength.

No I am not Palestinian native. And nope, I don't believe it. The Muslim world is improving incrementally but the Kuffar are improving exponentially.

The Muslim world turn a blind eye to genocides. This has been the reality for several hundred years, but especially of recent history. Rohingya aren't Arabs, the Kashmiri aren't Arabs, Crimean Tatars aren't Arabs, the Circassians aren't Arabs, the Uyghurs aren't Arabs, the Bosnians aren't Arabs, the Cham people aren't Arabs.

There have been half a dozen genocides that the Ummah turned a blind eye to. At least with Arab conflicts there is some intervention, but when it involves other ethnic groups we go deaf, dumb and blind.

Most of the non-Arab Muslim world are on the road to economic and military strength.

How did the Mongol invasion happen? How did the European colonialism happen? It happened in waves, where the Muslim lands were conquered one by one while we watched. When French conquered West Africa and the Russians conquered Central Asia, what did we do? Nothing...."its happening in a far away land, it'll never happen here." Then the British and Dutch conquered South and Southeast Asia. Then the French conquered North Africa, and the Russians conquered Crimea and North Caucasus and exterminated the Circassians. Then British, French conquered the Ottoman Empire and split it up into pieces.

One by on the entire Ummah was conquered. Because of apathy and inaction, and inability to catchup. And till this day Muslim lands are occupied, and many peoples are oppressed.

There is a Hadith that says: "Whoever among you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand [by taking action]; if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out]; and if he cannot, then with his heart, and that is the weakest of faith.” (Sahih Muslim 49)

Before the Mongol invasion, the Muslims in Asia were divided into a hundred emirates and principalities. It took the Mongols unify the Ummah. The death and destruction of their conquest, allowed the world to reset. The same will happen again. We are divided, we do not respect Allah's Creation (His worshipers whom we fail to protect), and like during the Abbassid times with their myriad of heresy, we too have fallen for heresies and the mental decay of apathy. A government that is unworthy does not deserve to exist, right? A status quo that is unworthy does not deserve to exist. Throughout history God has destroyed and rebuilt. It happened to the people of Noah and Lot. And it will continue to happen.

This is my belief. You have a right to yours, but I do not underestimate people's mortality and how in the blink of an eye your whole life can turn upside down.

"So when they forgot that by which they had been reminded, We opened to them the doors of every [good] thing until, when they rejoiced in that which they were given, We seized them suddenly, and they were [then] in despair. So the people that committed wrong were eliminated. And praise to Allah, Lord of the worlds." (Surah An'am 44)

 

[UKBengali]

No I am not Palestinian native. And nope, I don't believe it. The Muslim world is improving incrementally but the Kuffar are improving exponentially.

The Muslim world turn a blind eye to genocides. This has been the reality for several hundred years, but especially of recent history. Rohingya aren't Arabs, the Kashmiri aren't Arabs, Crimean Tatars aren't Arabs, the Circassians aren't Arabs, the Uyghurs aren't Arabs, the Bosnians aren't Arabs, the Cham people aren't Arabs.

There have been half a dozen genocides that the Ummah turned a blind eye to. At least with Arab conflicts there is some intervention, but when it involves other ethnic groups we go deaf, dumb and blind.

"The Muslim world is improving incrementally but the Kuffar are improving exponentially."

Got any real hard data to back this up with?

Muslim Turkey is set to become one of the top 5 arms manufacturers in the world by 2030. They have even beaten the Chinese to sell attack helicopters to Pakistan.
Turkey is leading the way and others are following. BD as an example is expected to be the fastest growing large economy in the world till 2030 with GDP expected to top 1 trillion US dollars.

As Muslim countries get more developed economically and militarily, then expect co-operation to increase and hence this will act as a deterrent to aggression against Muslims and also allow pressure to be applied if Muslims are mistreated. Not saying that Muslims will not suffer 2-3 decades from now but it will be much less than it is now.

Muslim world pretty much has hit rock bottom and is already on up upward trajectory.

 

[Fortress]

"The Muslim world is improving incrementally but the Kuffar are improving exponentially."

Got any real hard data to back this up with?

Muslim Turkey is set to become one of the top 5 arms manufacturers in the world by 2030. They have even beaten the Chinese to sell attack helicopters to Pakistan.
Turkey is leading the way and others are following. BD as an example is expected to be the fastest growing large economy in the world till 2030 with GDP expected to top 1 trillion US dollars.

As Muslim countries get more developed economically and militarily, then expect co-operation to increase and hence this will act as a deterrent to aggression against Muslims and also allow pressure to be applied if Muslims are mistreated. Not saying that Muslims will not suffer 2-3 decades from now but it will be much less than it is now.

Muslim world pretty much has hit rock bottom and is already on up upward trajectory.

I've lived in the West and the Muslim world. The level of advancement in both are quite different....Not sure how you can deny that. The West is building tech right now that is unfathomable. Killer robots, nuclear weapons, etc. They could pick and choose any Muslim country to destroy, and the others who have the ability to fight back won't do a damn thing about it. On the consumer side, US has a disproportionate stronghold on consumer software and websites.

As for Turkey. The Khaleejis and Zionists are planning to topple it as we speak. There was a coup attempt just a few years ago, and it won't be the end. Saudis hate Turkey with a passion, and Zionists want to neutralize Turkey as a regional power just as they did to Syria, Libya and Iraq, and will do to Iran.

If all you have is one Muslim country, let's say even three, that is no match for the literally dozens of Kuffar states who are way ahead of you or competing with you. I am a strong supporter of Turkey, but I know the writing on the wall when I see it. The Ummah didn't do shit for the Ottoman Empire when it was being chipped away and it won't do shit to help Turkey when the West-Gulf finally chips away it which will happen within this century. My message to the people who brag: Don't brag about it if you won't put your neck on the line to protect it.

Read my Quranic verse at the bottom, you can have all the prosperity in the world but it is always temporary. All men must die, and all things come to an end. We Muslims have become a weak and divided nation.

 

[Gangetic]

I've lived in the West and the Muslim world. The level of advancement in both are quite different....Not sure how you can deny that. The West is building tech right now that is unfathomable. Killer robots, nuclear weapons, etc. They could pick and choose any Muslim country to destroy, and the others who have the ability to fight back won't do a damn thing about it. On the consumer side, US has a disproportionate stronghold on consumer software and websites.

As for Turkey. The Khaleejis and Zionists are planning to topple it as we speak. There was a coup attempt just a few years ago, and it won't be the end. Saudis hate Turkey with a passion, and Zionists want to neutralize Turkey as a regional power just as they did to Syria, Libya and Iraq, and will do to Iran.

If all you have is one Muslim country, let's say even three, that is no match for the literally dozens of Kuffar states who are way ahead of you or competing with you. I am a strong supporter of Turkey, but I know the writing on the wall when I see it. The Ummah didn't do shit for the Ottoman Empire when it was being chipped away and it won't do shit to help Turkey when the West-Gulf finally chips away it which will happen within this century. My message to the people who brag: Don't brag about it if you won't put your neck on the line to protect it.

Read my Quranic verse at the bottom, you can have all the prosperity in the world but it is always temporary. All men must die, and all things come to an end. We Muslims have become a weak and divided nation.

We'll get nowhere with that attitude.

 

[Fortress]

We'll get nowhere with that attitude.

Well that's why I'm always educating people of Muslim genocides past and present. Most people seem to be unaware and unwilling to do anything about it, past and present. I've kind of realized that's not going to change. So am I now pretty anti status quo. We have gone "past the point of saving".

KSA, UAE, Jordan and Oman are literally planning to build a railway link that connects Israel to the Indian Ocean. KSA and UAE have invested billions into Israeli companies and will continue to do so. Just in October, the Israeli PM Netanyahu visited Oman, and just in the last few weeks Bahrain publicly defended Australia's decision to move it's embassy to Jerusalem. Everything is public, and yet the rest of the Muslim world chooses to be blind and ignorant.

The status quo cannot be reformed and improved, it must be dismantled. Destruction creates the fertilizer for rebirth, like the ashes of a forest fire or volcano eruption. I am of that philosophy now, religiously speaking. Revolution and not evolution is the answer to societal dysfunction. We have moved well past the stage of saving. We are not "too big too fail".

 

[Avicenna]

Well that's why I'm always educating people of Muslim genocides past and present. Most people seem to be unaware and unwilling to do anything about it, past and present. I've kind of realized that's not going to change. So am I now pretty anti status quo. We have gone "past the point of saving".

KSA, UAE, Jordan and Oman are literally planning to build a railway link that connects Israel to the Indian Ocean. KSA and UAE have invested billions into Israeli companies and will continue to do so. Just in October, the Israeli PM Netanyahu visited Oman, and just in the last few weeks Bahrain publicly defended Australia's decision to move it's embassy to Jerusalem. Everything is public, and yet the rest of the Muslim world chooses to be blind and ignorant.

The status quo cannot be reformed and improved, it must be dismantled. Destruction creates the fertilizer for rebirth, like the ashes of a forest fire or volcano eruption. I am of that philosophy now, religiously speaking. Revolution and not evolution is the answer to societal dysfunction. We have moved well past the stage of saving. We are not "too big too fail".

Your posts are absolutely fantastic.

And unfortunately, the reality of the situation.

 

[kingQamaR]

Continuous bogus needy news coverage on Pakistan. From your brainless elite even if there was a pro pak movement it would get zero response from us. Just get on with your own politics keep us out we’ve gone for good

 

[UKBengali]

I've lived in the West and the Muslim world. The level of advancement in both are quite different....Not sure how you can deny that. The West is building tech right now that is unfathomable. Killer robots, nuclear weapons, etc. They could pick and choose any Muslim country to destroy, and the others who have the ability to fight back won't do a damn thing about it. On the consumer side, US has a disproportionate stronghold on consumer software and websites.

As for Turkey. The Khaleejis and Zionists are planning to topple it as we speak. There was a coup attempt just a few years ago, and it won't be the end. Saudis hate Turkey with a passion, and Zionists want to neutralize Turkey as a regional power just as they did to Syria, Libya and Iraq, and will do to Iran.

If all you have is one Muslim country, let's say even three, that is no match for the literally dozens of Kuffar states who are way ahead of you or competing with you. I am a strong supporter of Turkey, but I know the writing on the wall when I see it. The Ummah didn't do shit for the Ottoman Empire when it was being chipped away and it won't do shit to help Turkey when the West-Gulf finally chips away it which will happen within this century. My message to the people who brag: Don't brag about it if you won't put your neck on the line to protect it.

Read my Quranic verse at the bottom, you can have all the prosperity in the world but it is always temporary. All men must die, and all things come to an end. We Muslims have become a weak and divided nation.

Dude, you are obsessed at the sorry state of the Arabs.

Time to move on now and think about the 80% of Muslims that are not Arabs